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JE3146 07-07-2010 07:31 PM

Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
I'm currently playing with the BlackBerry Java SDK and was wondering if there was any interest in an application for it.

Obviously there is the iPhone counterpart being developed here, and I hope not to step on any toes by creating this, but it seems to be one thing the BB community lacks.

So if you're interested in such a piece of software, what features would you like for it to have?

I have a direction on paper I'd like to go towards, but at the same time I'm curious to know what people would actually like out of such an application.

Thank you in advance for any feedback.

Eleven 07-07-2010 07:50 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Easy Database entry.

Maybe Barcode functions for entering cigar info, and also exporting info for others to have.

PC companion software for tracking, importing, exporting, etc etc.

Wolfgang 07-07-2010 07:55 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Can I get a galactic overlord button?

elderboy02 07-07-2010 08:09 PM

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Droid ;)

E-Tx Surveyor 07-07-2010 08:39 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
I would pay up to $9.99 for an app.
I would like something where I could put the individual cigar details, date I bought it, what I paid, and then of course smoking notes that could all be edited at a later date if needed.
A search function would be awesome, type in the name of the cigar and it just redirects to the mobile browser with a google search.

The top of the line for me would be an app with pictures of the sticks, at least the bands. I could type in the name and it would bring up a picture and a link to a review, and also a pronunciation key. I would also be able to submit a review.

JE3146 07-07-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 910009)
Droid ;)

Not switching for a while. Sorry buddy.

I can pick up a new language/dev platform in about 1 to 3 days, so it isn't much of an issue, I just have nothing to test it on as I develop.

That and there are plenty of Droid developers. The BB market is stale for an app like this.

elderboy02 07-08-2010 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 910065)
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That and there are plenty of Droid developers. The BB market is stale for an app like this.

Very true. :)

Well, when you upgrade to the Droid, I will look forward to an app. :tu

SigEpGF 07-08-2010 01:51 PM

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I'm in love with my Blackberry, and would love a cigar app.

loki 07-08-2010 01:53 PM

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nope, not interested

md4958 07-08-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
i would have loved this a year ago... how about something for the Droid instead? :D

dubnick 07-08-2010 02:29 PM

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Would love one...

Maybe with a desktop interface too...

JE3146 07-08-2010 08:15 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 910672)
i would have loved this a year ago... how about something for the Droid instead? :D

I changed a few things around from my initial concept based on a couple conversations I've had and pending some trials with the Droid SDK, I'll be entertaining the idea.

The way the program will be setup will be easy to port it to the Droid if necessary. The device will source data from an online server and store it to persistent memory. It will also store local data in persistent memory and give the option to sync it to the server. The benefit here is two fold.

As long as you sync it periodically, you won't lose information tied to your account and you'll also be able to see averaged ratings of sticks compiled from other users. Not only that but it gives me the flexibility to eventually make a Windows application in C# and possibly a port of that for the Mac in Cocoa# that can perform a similar task as the mobile device.

Granted this is all up in the air based on how complex I want to make the database, but it should be a fun project. :tu

E-Tx Surveyor 07-08-2010 09:07 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Looking forward to it. I always have my BB, but I don't always have my notes.

LooseCard 07-09-2010 09:57 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Voted "not interested" because you specify BB

My next upgrade, which will be later this year, will likely be Droid/Android.

May be interested then.
Definitely would have to be PC connectable. I'd likely do majority of my data entry through a PC then the small screen device.

JE3146 07-09-2010 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LooseCard (Post 912080)
Voted "not interested" because you specify BB

My next upgrade, which will be later this year, will likely be Droid/Android.

May be interested then.
Definitely would have to be PC connectable. I'd likely do majority of my data entry through a PC then the small screen device.

Just to note this will be geared as a mobile app first, PC app possibly. ;)

JE3146 07-09-2010 11:44 PM

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2 Attachment(s)
So here's the rundown so far. At least what I'm aiming for. Minor details might change but for the most part, this has been my plan and will continue to be, if not all up front then in subsequent updates.

What's being developed now -

Features
  • Easy to use User Interface that's clean and non battery consuming.
  • Low file size for the application
  • All data stored locally on device will be stored on the SD card in SQLite databases
  • Centralized serverside database containing brands, boxes, cigars, and details
  • Centralized serverside database containing user reviews of the cigars
  • Ability to submit new cigars, brands, or boxes for the database via website form(they will require approval prior to entering the database)
  • Ability to fill in details about a cigar not in the database for a review
  • Ability to modify and delete reviews.
  • Compiled ratings from centralized database
  • 2 way syncing feature to re-download lost reviews or upload reviews to server.
  • Ability to view reviews on device sorted by date, brand or rating
  • Ability to add purchased boxes and link reviews to box purchases for reference.
  • My Humidor page to show off a picture of your humidor

Requirements
  • Blackberry OS 5.0
  • SD card in device
  • Currently being developed for BlackBerry Storm/Storm2, Curve, Tour, and Bold

And below a few prototype screen shots.

Enjoy :tu

jsnake 07-13-2010 05:17 AM

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Sounds way cool. I don't understand why all the iphone cigar apps when most cigar smokers I know are business professionals who use Blackberries.

waffle 07-13-2010 05:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake (Post 914793)
Sounds way cool. I don't understand why all the iphone cigar apps when most cigar smokers I know are business professionals who use Blackberries.

Do you have any idea how many business professionals I run into now that are using iPhones... its crazy!!!! But I agree with you, BB should def. have an app.

JE3146 07-13-2010 06:58 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Just to add, I'm co-developing an app for the Android OS 2.2 (due to requests) as well that will be nearly identical to the BB app. They'll use the same online database, so if you were to switch phone types, it'd migrate seamlessly :tu

Sadly the Android one will look nicer due to the nicer UI API features. BB's are inherently flawed it seems. Probably why no one develops for them.

KenS 07-13-2010 07:17 PM

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Jordan,

As you probably know, I am the author of Mobile Stogie for the iPhone. I've had quite a few emails asking for a blackberry version, so I know there is demand out there. I have considered porting to Android, but don't really have the time to do so. As for iPhones for business professionals, as of today Mobile Stogie has sold 4,266 copies, so there is demand there as well ;)

Although I'm not willing to "give away" the code to Mobile Stogie, I would be happy to offer feedback as you go through the development of your app, in terms of things that I've learned, how I connect to the online database, etc. Feel free to reach out to me if you want to discuss things with another developer.

I think it's great to see somebody tackling the app for blackberry and wish you the best of luck :tu

dubnick 07-13-2010 07:24 PM

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That's very nice of you KenS... :tu

Barteur 07-13-2010 07:25 PM

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Cant wait to see the end result.

JE3146 07-13-2010 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenS (Post 915593)
Jordan,

As you probably know, I am the author of Mobile Stogie for the iPhone. I've had quite a few emails asking for a blackberry version, so I know there is demand out there. I have considered porting to Android, but don't really have the time to do so. As for iPhones for business professionals, as of today Mobile Stogie has sold 4,266 copies, so there is demand there as well ;)

Although I'm not willing to "give away" the code to Mobile Stogie, I would be happy to offer feedback as you go through the development of your app, in terms of things that I've learned, how I connect to the online database, etc. Feel free to reach out to me if you want to discuss things with another developer.

I think it's great to see somebody tackling the app for blackberry and wish you the best of luck :tu

Much appreciated :)

Honestly that alleviates a lot of worry for me, as I didn't want to offend, but I knew the platform desperately needed something. Luckily Android is Java as well, so it's an easy(relatively speaking) port once you get past the API differences.

chicken 07-16-2010 01:44 PM

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I have been looking for a cigar app for my blackberry. That would be awesome

stearns 07-18-2010 09:25 AM

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Go droid, I'd pay

Stearns

darkninja67 07-18-2010 04:55 PM

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Would love a Droid version as well.

JE3146 07-21-2010 09:37 PM

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http://www.cigarnotes.net/

:tu

Progress is happening. Still too soon to quote a release date.

bvilchez 07-22-2010 10:07 AM

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The initial page alone looks great Jordan.

dwoodward 07-22-2010 12:35 PM

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An application would be cool. I would definitely try it out for sure.

stearns 07-22-2010 03:23 PM

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That looks ballin, id definitely pay for it

Stearns

jsnake 07-22-2010 07:05 PM

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I just switched from Blackberry to Droid so another vote for Droid lol.

chicken 07-22-2010 07:35 PM

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That looks fantastic!

neoflex 07-22-2010 07:42 PM

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I just wish I had the time and the energy to be that organized. I would check it out but I got to be honest and say I would probably never put it to good use.

JE3146 07-22-2010 09:03 PM

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Thanks for the feedback on the site :)

Once I get some time frames in mind, I'll close this thread and make a development thread to highlight the beta process and eventually the release.

ucubed 07-22-2010 10:14 PM

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It's looking good...at least from what Aldrin showed me...hurry with the Blackberry version!!!

JE3146 07-23-2010 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ucubed (Post 925265)
It's looking good...at least from what Aldrin showed me...hurry with the Blackberry version!!!

His version is so outdated already :D I'm already parsing XML from the web server. His can't do that yet.

A lot of the work is getting the infrastructure set up and the databases designed as well as the processes to handle the data. The UI stuff takes a couple weeks at best. The BlackBerry will be second to finish, but I don't expect it to be that much longer. All depends on how much Aldrin contributes ;) He's my intern :D

s0leful0ne 07-23-2010 12:28 AM

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lets doooo itttt

chicken 07-23-2010 08:22 AM

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Work him like a dog!

JohnE1000 07-23-2010 09:20 AM

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I don't have a blackberry, so I don't care one way or another

Thrak 07-24-2010 05:18 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
too bad its 5.0 and up only... I know alot of people that still have curves (4.5os).. including me.

NeuRon 07-24-2010 05:45 PM

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i would be interested

JE3146 07-24-2010 09:43 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 927354)
too bad its 5.0 and up only... I know alot of people that still have curves (4.5os).. including me.

I'll check into it. I wasn't aware there was hardware limitations other than the Pearl (which... screen is too dang small anyway). If the API's I need run on 4.5, then I don't see why I can't deliver on it. :tu

RHNewfie 07-29-2010 12:13 PM

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This ready yet :-) Just kidding! I have thought about doing this myself, now I won't have to!

elderboy02 07-29-2010 12:26 PM

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Will we have the ability to keep inventory of our cigars? Like how many of each cigar we have?

JE3146 07-31-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RHNewfie (Post 933383)
This ready yet :-) Just kidding! I have thought about doing this myself, now I won't have to!

LOL.

It's taking a bit longer than I would have liked, but sadly I'm a bit of a perfectionist. There has been progress. I just stopped giving micro updates to my testers because I didn't want to annoy them :D

JE3146 07-31-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 933399)
Will we have the ability to keep inventory of our cigars? Like how many of each cigar we have?

Yup :tu

RHNewfie 07-31-2010 01:37 PM

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Oooh, testing!!

Say, will it be OTA install and updates?

JE3146 07-31-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RHNewfie (Post 935984)
Oooh, testing!!

Say, will it be OTA install and updates?

By testing, I merely meant components of the UI to see if the 'look' was a good thing to pursue :D Bad choice of words ... it isn't 'that far' yet.

It will be OTA through the BB/Android Market. The website is merely for support and to host the database of cigars that can be updated.

The database itself will not need an involved update procedure. You simply will go to settings and click 'update database' (or something to that effect if I happen to change the current wordage), and it will update your cigar reference database. All new info will be downloaded to your phone, if there is an update available for it.

If there is a program update, that will go through the appropriate market.



Though the Android will come first of the two and that's because it's the easiest to code for. I'm gonna have to remake this thread eventually as it's a bit misleading to my current timeline. :(

troutbreath 07-31-2010 03:09 PM

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Me likey!

I use Ken's app on my iTouch, and LOVE it. But, I don't always have my ipod with me. By contrast, my Blackberry Storm is glued to me at all times. It would be GREAT to have something with the features mentioned on this thread. Barcode scanning . . . whew.

JE3146 07-31-2010 07:17 PM

Re: Any interest in a BlackBerry Cigar application?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troutbreath (Post 936052)
Me likey!

I use Ken's app on my iTouch, and LOVE it. But, I don't always have my ipod with me. By contrast, my Blackberry Storm is glued to me at all times. It would be GREAT to have something with the features mentioned on this thread. Barcode scanning . . . whew.

Yea.... barcode scanning would be impossible for me to keep up with. I don't think I could do that one, nor do I have the resources out there to test such a thing. :(


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