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markem 07-06-2010 11:54 AM

Prince: The Internet is dead
 
The music industry might be embracing digital and online technology, but Prince is not convinced that it’s a good thing.

"The Internet's completely over,” Prince told British tabloid publication, in his first newspaper interview in 10 years. “I don't see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won't pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can't get it.”

Full article here: http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07...s-dead/?hpt=T2


Sounds an awful lot like Ken Olsen's pronouncement of 1977: There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home. Note that DEC no longer exists, but we have computers in the home. :tu

Don Fernando 07-06-2010 12:02 PM

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Isn't the career of Prince dead for years?

jledou 07-06-2010 12:05 PM

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Maybe he forgot the all as in "The internet completely ALL over" hmmm anyone else see him being lost (unknown) to anyone born past 1985? .......... but he has it right the internet is worthless just ask the Bieber kid .......

Skywalker 07-06-2010 12:12 PM

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I couldn't read this thread because... the Internet is dead!!!:D

md4958 07-06-2010 12:22 PM

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youre gonna have to explain who Prince is to some of the younger kids... he hasnt been relevant for quite a while now :r:r:r

AD720 07-06-2010 12:28 PM

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No one will appreciate Prince until he is gone. While he is nuts (I love him anyway) the meaning behind his message is true. Get off the internet, go create. He is very protective (rightfully so) of his intellectual property. I like that he tells iTunes to go pound sand.

BTW the new stuff I've heard from Prince is really good, if you like Prince. His Superbowl half-time show performance was, IMO, the best in history.

Pat1075 07-06-2010 12:29 PM

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I can't find the key to spell his name:tf
maybe that's why he doesn't like it.

Lear31MX 07-06-2010 12:32 PM

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Prince WHO :D, what the hell does he know about the internet anyway, Now if I have some questions about a$$ less pants he would be the guy to see.

poker 07-06-2010 12:33 PM

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Remember, its not actually "Prince" anymore. Its now "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince" (or TAFKAP), or just by the symbol belowhttp://www.isitfast.com/images/Decals/Bands/PRINCE.jpg
:r:r:r

AD720 07-06-2010 12:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poker (Post 908458)
Remember, its not actually "Prince" anymore. Its now "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince" (or TAFKAP), or just by the symbol belowhttp://www.isitfast.com/images/Decals/Bands/PRINCE.jpg
:r:r:r

Actually he is the Artist Formerly Known as The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. ;) He's been back to Prince for the last ten years or so.

macsauce13 07-06-2010 12:38 PM

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I think he went back to Prince. Not positive but I think I heard that a while back.

macsauce13 07-06-2010 12:39 PM

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Beat me to it.

kelmac07 07-06-2010 12:53 PM

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While Prince has always done things his way...I believe it is finally catching up to him. :td

T.G 07-06-2010 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 908437)
The music industry might be embracing digital and online technology, but Prince is not convinced that it’s a good thing.

"The Internet's completely over,” Prince told British tabloid publication, in his first newspaper interview in 10 years. “I don't see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won't pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can't get it.”

Full article here: http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07...s-dead/?hpt=T2


Sounds an awful lot like Ken Olsen's pronouncement of 1977: There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home. Note that DEC no longer exists, but we have computers in the home. :tu

Prince is kind of an odd person. Musically, he's a freaking genius, and while is is a bit off center, he's usually much better spoken than what was presented in that blog. I'd suspect there is more to his statements than was presented. I don't recall him being much of the type to just go off that like that without some reason.

And even if he was, I care about his internet predictions about as much as I care about what any musical artist has to say about something other than music.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker (Post 908458)
Remember, its not actually "Prince" anymore. Its now "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince" (or TAFKAP), or just by the symbol belowhttp://www.isitfast.com/images/Decals/Bands/PRINCE.jpg
:r:r:r



Nah. IIRC, that whole symbol thing was due to the label owning the rights to the stage name "Prince" and when he split from his old record label (MCA?), there was a lawsuit over if he could use the name, and while I don't remember if it was by settlement or legal judgement, but eventually he was awarded the rights to the name over a decade ago.

KingJaffeJoffer 07-06-2010 01:13 PM

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That's funny. The Internet says, 'Prince is completely over'.

icehog3 07-06-2010 01:30 PM

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He wore a raspberry beret...the kind you find in a second hand store.

The Poet 07-06-2010 01:32 PM

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So, lemme see if I've got this straight - the Internet is dead because Prince ain't getting paid. Is that about right?

T.G 07-06-2010 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 908499)
And even if he was, I care about his internet predictions about as much as I care about what any musical artist has to say about something other than music.

Might help if I clarified that I don't don't give a **** what they think, in fact, it would really be nice if they'd just lean to STFU and do what they are being paid to do - entertain. If I want an opinion on something other than music, I'll get it from someone qualified in that field.

T.G 07-06-2010 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 908537)
So, lemme see if I've got this straight - the Internet is dead because Prince ain't getting paid. Is that about right?

Except that he's been giving his albums away for free for a number of years now.

icantbejon 07-06-2010 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 908546)
Might help if I clarified that I don't don't give a **** what they think, in fact, it would really be nice if they'd just lean to STFU and do what they are being paid to do - entertain. If I want an opinion on something other than music, I'll get it from someone qualified in that field.

I always find this opinion ammusing. My wife shares your sentiments. I tend to disagree...for the most part. If Britney Spears starts babbling about world peace...I'm going to tune out and look at her (o)(o)s. However, when a guy like Bono, from U2, starts talking world peace, I believe its a mistake to not listen. He's invested decades into pushing for peace. He knows his information better than a lot of politicians I would suspect (i.e. Palin and her "foreign policy" experience w/ Russia....scary). Furthermore...just think a few decades ago when music was so politically driven. The 60's and 70's are saturated with policitally motivated music. Just because a person chooses an outlet such as entertainment, I don't believe that should discredit them from an opinion. If they take the time to research the subject, I believe that makes them an outstanding spokesperson because they have mass appeal.

:2

The Poet 07-06-2010 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 908549)
Except that he's been giving his albums away for free for a number of years now.

Then what's the big woof? The Grateful Dead not only did not care if you pirated their concerts, they would provide you the audio stations so that you could get a clean feed! Don't get me wrong . . . I have no problem with an artist getting paid for his work, but if Prince hasn't made his bankroll by now, why should I care? Just my :2, and not only is that :2 worth every penny but it is also roughly equivalent to MY bankroll.

poker 07-06-2010 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 908463)
Actually he is the Artist Formerly Known as The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. ;) He's been back to Prince for the last ten years or so.


Goes to show how much about him I know or care about :r

AD720 07-06-2010 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 908559)
Then what's the big woof? The Grateful Dead not only did not care if you pirated their concerts, they would provide you the audio stations so that you could get a clean feed! Don't get me wrong . . . I have no problem with an artist getting paid for his work, but if Prince hasn't made his bankroll by now, why should I care? Just my :2, and not only is that :2 worth every penny but it is also roughly equivalent to MY bankroll.

This is just my feeling, as a long time Prince fan, I think that he is more concerned with controlling the distribution than the money (if you read the whole article it mentions that he is worth an estimated 100mil but continues to donate sizable portions of that to various charities). After being so tied up in a record contract where he felt he had no real control of how his music was distributed I can understand his wanting to control that aspect of it.

AD720 07-06-2010 01:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poker (Post 908563)
Goes to show how much about him I know or care about :r

Don't worry I'm sure at some point he'll be The Artist Formerly Known as The Artist Formerly Known as The Artist Formerly Know as Prince. ;)

T.G 07-06-2010 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 908555)
I always find this opinion ammusing. My wife shares your sentiments. I tend to disagree...for the most part. If Britney Spears starts babbling about world peace...I'm going to tune out and look at her (o)(o)s. However, when a guy like Bono, from U2, starts talking world peace, I believe its a mistake to not listen. He's invested decades into pushing for peace. He knows his information better than a lot of politicians I would suspect (i.e. Palin and her "foreign policy" experience w/ Russia....scary). Furthermore...just think a few decades ago when music was so politically driven. The 60's and 70's are saturated with policitally motivated music. Just because a person chooses an outlet such as entertainment, I don't believe that should discredit them from an opinion. If they take the time to research the subject, I believe that makes them an outstanding spokesperson because they have mass appeal.

:2

What's so amusing?

We just basically said the exact same thing.

If the person is qualified to give an opinion, then great, if not, it's of no value.

Most of them aren't qualified though.

The Poet 07-06-2010 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 908573)
If the person is qualified to give an opinion, then great, if not, it's of no value.

Most of them aren't qualified though.



Hey, I resemble that remark! :r

The Poet 07-06-2010 02:20 PM

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Oh, and as for that whole control of distribution and retention of rights issue . . . well, I gave up on the justification of that in the music business 'way back when Michael Jackson went behind Paul McCartney's back and bought The Beatles' songs.


After that, you think I'm gonna care if somebody downloads "Little Red Corvette" for free? Not hardly.

BigFrank 07-06-2010 02:50 PM

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I wonder how many people had to google or wikipedia Prince to even know who he is...

KingJaffeJoffer 07-06-2010 02:58 PM

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Unfortunately, I'm old enough to know who prince is. I would kinda suspect people who weren't around for most of the 80's would know anyway just from the number of classics the guy has. Hell, Dave Chappelle did a skit about Prince a few years ago, that has to be worth something to the kids.

wolfandwhisky 07-06-2010 11:21 PM

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ever since I saw Prince whoop up Charlie Murphy in basketball on the Chappelle show, I've had a whole new respect for him

icehog3 07-06-2010 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfandwhisky (Post 909057)
ever since I saw Prince whoop up Charlie Murphy in basketball on the Chappelle show, I've had a whole new respect for him

And then he made pancakes!!!

wolfandwhisky 07-06-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 909065)
And then he made pancakes!!!

:r :r :r ...classic

Apoco 07-07-2010 07:48 AM

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True story, I couldn't name one song prince has done. I know of prince, but yeah, had to google to see what songs were actually his.

Wooo for 22 year olds!

Pass 07-07-2010 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfandwhisky (Post 909057)
ever since I saw Prince whoop up Charlie Murphy in basketball on the Chappelle show, I've had a whole new respect for him

Shoot the J. Shoot it!
Game.... Blouses!:r:r

icehog3 07-07-2010 08:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pass (Post 909286)
Shoot the J. Shoot it!
Game.... Blouses!:r:r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLLIYpf_XU

NSFW...language.

Pass 07-07-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 909292)

Love that skit!

ucla695 07-07-2010 09:27 AM

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I agree...the internet's a fad. ;)

Don Fernando 07-07-2010 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 908533)
He wore a raspberry beret...the kind you find in a second hand store.

and you found a second hand store at Alphabet street?

Starscream 07-08-2010 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 909292)

Priceless!

LasciviousXXX 07-14-2010 06:37 AM

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As a closet Prince fan, I had to laugh when I read this story.

Ok, you all know I'm not a closet fan. I own everything the man's ever done. That's over 35 albums worth of material. And I'm under 30 LOL.

Seriously though, his new album that came out 3 days ago in the UK... I was disappointed. I wished to share my disappointment but then I found out ther internet was dead. Thx Prince :tu

mosesbotbol 07-14-2010 08:48 AM

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The internet has killed the music business. There is much less money to be made and now artists are forced to tour and play live to make a living.

In one sense that is good, but bad if you have been reliant on record sales to make a living. I have some friends in the music distribution business and their business was huge a few years ago and now it's "abandon ship".

Ashcan Bill 07-14-2010 08:59 AM

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“The Internet's like MTV,” he told the Mirror. “At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."


The man is really a deep thinker. :rolleyes:

the MacDonald 07-14-2010 09:20 AM

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Maybe Prince confused Michael Jackson, his archenemy from the 80's, with the Internet. If that were the case he’d be correct.

mosesbotbol 07-14-2010 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill (Post 916070)
“The Internet's like MTV,” he told the Mirror. “At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."


The man is really a deep thinker. :rolleyes:

Not in jest, but that is a deep thought on one level. Very reactionary and has merit.

hotreds 07-14-2010 05:03 PM

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http://media.nj.com/jerseyguy/photo/...73b6_large.jpg


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