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Volt 05-17-2010 07:09 AM

I need a kick a$$ cigar
 
Ok, I have a friend that has handled any level of nic cigar I have tossed at him.. Now my goal is to see what will get him sweating. This weekend he smoke a LFD Chisel and a Cain F back to back? I need recommendations on what to toss at him next. A JdN Antano? I can't smoke a full on nic cigar so my experience with them is limited.

Patrick B 05-17-2010 07:16 AM

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Might as well quit if he handled those two with no problem. Doesn't sound like he's gonna break a sweat period.

elderboy02 05-17-2010 07:20 AM

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Make him smoke those 2 cigars back to back on an empty stomach when he first wakes up and he must drink water. No sugar allowed.

He will feel it ;)

MajorCaptSilly 05-17-2010 07:26 AM

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El Cobre is pretty stout.

MCS

wayner123 05-17-2010 07:26 AM

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Are you willing to go the custom roll route? If so, give Habanos Torres a call and tell him what you want.

Also, is he drinking alcohol when smoking these? If not, what is he drinking?

Volt 05-17-2010 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 861070)
Make him smoke those 2 cigars back to back on an empty stomach when he first wakes up and he must drink water. No sugar allowed.

He will feel it ;)


Prolly not.... He usually is spitting out a piece of nic gum so he can light up a stick.... Now it's to the point I gotta find something that will get his attention :D His comment on the Cain F was - tasty.... I'd of been puking and sweating.

Volt 05-17-2010 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 861079)
El Cobre is pretty stout.

MCS


TKS, I'll look it up.

Volt 05-17-2010 07:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 861080)
Are you willing to go the custom roll route? If so, give Habanos Torres a call and tell him what you want.

Also, is he drinking alcohol when smoking these? If not, what is he drinking?


Usually bourbon

JJG 05-17-2010 07:29 AM

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I never understood how the sugar helps. can someone explain?

(and sorry for the thread jack ;))

mariogolbee 05-17-2010 07:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JJG (Post 861084)
I never understood how the sugar helps. can someone explain?

(and sorry for the thread jack ;))

It has something to do with the nicotine, insulin, and glucose. There's an explanation somewhere on here about it. Don't have time right now to look for it so I apologize for the half-azz response.

I can usually smoke some pretty strong sticks but recently I smoked an Oliva V Especial followed about an hour later by an Opus X Petite Lancero. I wasn't feeling so great afterwards.

Volt 05-17-2010 07:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JJG (Post 861084)
I never understood how the sugar helps. can someone explain?

(and sorry for the thread jack ;))


I have no idea but can attest to it's effects. It works, specifically chocolate. I always try to have some at the shed herf in case it's needed. It soothes the stomache, nerves, etc and lets you keep on smoking.

Don Fernando 05-17-2010 07:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 861079)
El Cobre is pretty stout.

MCS

but drybox them first! That makes a huge difference.

Get that big torpedo from Joya de Nic antano too. I saw Simon shake after one of those once.

Volt 05-17-2010 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 861101)
but drybox them first! That makes a huge difference.

Get that big torpedo from Joya de Nic antano too. I saw Simon shake after one of those once.

Ok, now we are talking - if it can make Simon shake that is what I am looking for. :tu These are two peas in a pod as to the same profile.

JohnE1000 05-17-2010 08:18 AM

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antano

alwayslit 05-17-2010 08:21 AM

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opus power ranger or tat t110

newlifetaxidermy 05-17-2010 08:34 AM

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The strongest I have personally smoked is the LFD Cheroot. This is an empire cigars exclusive 100% Ligero cigar. It is sort of rough and innocent looking, but the cheroot blows the others mentioned here out of the water. PM uncelnino and he can set you up.

DocLogic77 05-17-2010 08:52 AM

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I have to agree about the Opus Power Ranger...those suckers give me palpitations.

But, I'll tell you the Party 898v is no joke.

DropTheE 05-17-2010 08:56 AM

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Some people are just like that with cigars. They can handle the goods while you are laying on the couch sleeping off the nic rush!!!

Volt 05-17-2010 09:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DropTheE (Post 861170)
Some people are just like that with cigars. They can handle the goods while you are laying on the couch sleeping off the nic rush!!!

This is going to be the case, I just have to see if I can get him green :D It will be fun trying though.

CigarNut 05-17-2010 09:02 AM

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Maybe you should go for a different approach -- you smoke the cigars and puke on him :)

tenbaseg 05-17-2010 09:15 AM

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Camacho Triple Maduro. That can give you "the stare".

Volt 05-17-2010 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 861180)
Maybe you should go for a different approach -- you smoke the cigars and puke on him :)

Hmm lets not and say I did - no fun for me :D

HK3- 05-17-2010 11:11 AM

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You need to find something strong and also in a large format like a diadema or "A" size. Maybe something like an Opus A or the EL Cobre if you can find one. How's about a gorilla finger? Those taste like sh*t from what I hear and that could do the trick? :pu

Volt 05-17-2010 11:22 AM

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I like him and he is way bigger than me - no GF's. I do like your thinking though.

issues 05-17-2010 11:31 AM

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JdN Antano Dark Corojo.

Steve Saka of Drew Estates described it as a "nicotine I.V. drip".

neoflex 05-17-2010 11:34 AM

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I tend to smoke heavier smokes and thought the F had some nice spice but didn't seem to be overwhelming strong. Last one I smoked was at a herf following a Tat Red Tubo and Liga 9 Beli so maybe that's why I wasn't effected by it. There aren't too many sticks that I have had lately that have had me filling ill. The last stick I had that I thought was a super spice bomb was the Liga Flying Pig though. Not enough to make me sick but enough for me to stop from time to time and say, "Wow, that's a strong stick." May not make him ill but if you get him to smoke on an empty stomach it may be the one to do the trick. Either that of the LFD Oscuro Especial on an empty stomach. That stick did it to me a few years back but I blame myself for smoking a spicy stick of that size without anything to eat. When I did finally eat it was not pretty. :D Good luck!

bobarian 05-17-2010 11:54 AM

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Litto Gomez Diez Chisel Puro
JdN Dark Antano
Camacho Diploma 11/18
El Cobre Churchill
LFD Cheroot
Opus X Power Ranger

Volt 05-17-2010 11:59 AM

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Thanks guys, I'll start picking up a few and post if any get his attention.

mithrilG60 05-17-2010 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 861349)
I tend to smoke heavier smokes and thought the F had some nice spice but didn't seem to be overwhelming strong.

I'd agree with this, but I also can't think of any cigar that's ever given me a nicotine rush. LFD Chisel maduro's, Cain F's, MX2's, JdN Antano beli's... they're all strong cigars but nicotine rush? No really. Guess I just don't absorb a huge amount through my mouth.

Now the time that my buddy caught me with something funny in mid-puff on a Monte #2 which ended up in me inhaling the entire draw by mistake..... I felt very ill for about 10min after that. Been 7 years since I quit cigarettes, apparently my lungs aren't as toughen/scared as they used to be.

Starscream 05-17-2010 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volt (Post 861061)
Ok, I have a friend that has handled any level of nic cigar I have tossed at him.. Now my goal is to see what will get him sweating. This weekend he smoke a LFD Chisel and a Cain F back to back? I need recommendations on what to toss at him next. A JdN Antano? I can't smoke a full on nic cigar so my experience with them is limited.

If your friend smokes cigarettes, then there is probably no cigar that will make him sweat. El Rico Habano is one of the strongest that I've had. A lot of good suggestions in this thread also.:tu

Emjaysmash 05-17-2010 01:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 861180)
Maybe you should go for a different approach -- you smoke the cigars and puke on him :)

LMAO!

From my own deductions (they might not be right) nicotine brings down your blood sugar somehow (maybe by stimulating the body to create more insulin) thus making you hypoglycemic (low blood sugar). The sweats, nausea, headache etc. is a side effect of low blood sugar. Thats why sugary drinks, choclate etc makes you feel better, as it returns you to a normal blood sugar level. It is also why diabetic cigar smokers have to be fairly careful about how much they smoke or herf.

Again, this is just my take on it. I am not a registered, licensed anything so take everything I say with a grain of salt. Kosher salt. :tu

shilala 05-17-2010 01:33 PM

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I looked at all these suggestions, and I'm obviously a big fat nicotine slob.
A fresh Anejo #49 and a fresh El Original Toro Maduro are probably enough to sit him on his ass. El Cobre, not so much unless it's nice and wet.
An Oliva S or Oliva O, barnyard fresh and soaking wet should make him chunk.
I've only ever got a nic buzz three times. Once when I was about 10 years old on Copenhagen, once on a fresh Anejo, and once on fresh Cohiba cigarettes. Had to smoke three back to back, but I got gooned. It was awesome. :D

issues 05-17-2010 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 861450)
If your friend smokes cigarettes, then there is probably no cigar that will make him sweat. El Rico Habano is one of the strongest that I've had. A lot of good suggestions in this thread also.:tu

I have heard this before; I need to give one of those a shot some day...

DocLogic77 05-17-2010 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 861324)
You need to find something strong and also in a large format like a diadema or "A" size. Maybe something like an Opus A or the EL Cobre if you can find one. How's about a gorilla finger? Those taste like sh*t from what I hear and that could do the trick? :pu

He's trying to make him green...not poison the poor guy. Geez. :D

T.G 05-17-2010 01:43 PM

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Camacho Coyolar (aka Black) toro or robusto (the early releases were brutal)
Opus X Petit Lancero
JdN Antano Machito
LGD Chisel Maduro

If you can find some old El Cobres, before they cut the ligero down, they had some kick.

Or you can just ask him to speed herf a Fonseca (N/C) in under 10 minutes and that'll probably kick his ass.

Volt 05-17-2010 02:11 PM

Re: I need a kick a$$ cigar
 
I did hear though that you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 861458)
LMAO!

From my own deductions (they might not be right) nicotine brings down your blood sugar somehow (maybe by stimulating the body to create more insulin) thus making you hypoglycemic (low blood sugar). The sweats, nausea, headache etc. is a side effect of low blood sugar. Thats why sugary drinks, choclate etc makes you feel better, as it returns you to a normal blood sugar level. It is also why diabetic cigar smokers have to be fairly careful about how much they smoke or herf.

Again, this is just my take on it. I am not a registered, licensed anything so take everything I say with a grain of salt. Kosher salt. :tu


yourchoice 05-17-2010 02:18 PM

Re: I need a kick a$$ cigar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 861370)
Litto Gomez Diez Chisel Puro

:tpd: Litto's Diez line is the strongest I've ever had...even think it was the Chisel Puro. Wow.

kelmac07 05-17-2010 03:22 PM

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Essencia is the only stick that made me cry...all three times I torched one too. :r :r

captain53 05-17-2010 03:59 PM

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La Gloria Cubana Serie R #7 Maduro is the stoutest thing I know of by far and I have tried most of the ones others have suggested. The LFD Double Chisel and Camacho Triple are baby smokes compared to this monster.:fu2

If that one does not work then you better just get him some MD-20-20 or some Everclear and give up on smoking him to stupidity.

Dunkel 05-17-2010 04:57 PM

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Some folks just have high nic tolerance. I've never had any cigar make me sweat or puke. I've had a few that gave me hiccups, but nothing has made me sick. I've smoked most of the strong cigars mentioned in this thread.

BryanB 05-17-2010 05:41 PM

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Get him an Acid. He'll lose it.
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tomc3084 05-17-2010 05:53 PM

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I smoke cigarettes too, and they're not many cigars that are "too strong" to me...The only cigar that comes to mind is the t110 ,that was almost overwhelmingly strong...

maninblack 05-17-2010 07:49 PM

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Give him an Immenso. That damn thing made me puke on several occasions.

kgraybill 05-17-2010 08:01 PM

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As a cigarette smoker, only 2 have really given me a nic buzz. The first was a 601 green but if I remember correctly I had not eaten. the other was the Cain F 660. I almost picked up a LFD double ligero lancero but the guy at the b & m knew that I inhale often so he strongly suggested that I did non get that one.

T.G 05-17-2010 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanB (Post 861739)
Get him an Acid. He'll lose it.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 861879)
Give him an Immenso. That damn thing made me puke on several occasions.



Kill two birds with one stone. Get him a Gorilla Finger.


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