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nomadicwookie 04-23-2010 07:03 AM

Single Malt Scotch
 
So what's your favorite bargain basement Scotch? What's the one you don't mind spending a ridiculous amount of money on because it's just that good? For me I think Glenfiddich 12yr is the best bang for the buck. Nothing fancy but smooth and enjoyable. KenyanSandBoa also mentioned Balvenie Double Wood in a recent thread which I think is also an excellent value. I was never a big fan of scotch for many years, probably due to the fact that all I'd had was Dewars or Chivas. Then for Father's day one year I bought my Dad a bottle of Macallan 18yr old. Well, that one reinvented the wheel for me. Earthy, smoky, wonderful. So, what does it for you?

SmokeyJoe 04-23-2010 08:59 AM

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My favorite is the Glenlivet Nadurra (16 yr), but it is a little pricey.

Best "bang for the buck" for me is the Speyburn 10 yr...

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...Speyburn10.jpg

About $26, and as BarneyBandMan said, "I would drink this!" (Which is a little odd because he WAS drinking it.) :ss

mmblz 04-23-2010 09:09 AM

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was doing quick google while thinking about this and noticed that kl wines has Glenlivet 12 for $23.50
that is an incredible price!
might have to buy some myself!

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sk...TPV-Googlebase

wolfandwhisky 04-23-2010 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 837090)
My favorite is the Glenlivet Nadurra (16 yr), but it is a little pricey.

...

The Nadurra is an excellent malt - and for the price? Definitely worth getting a bottle.

Also, I'd recommend the Balvenie 12 DoubleWood:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31096

BigCat 04-23-2010 10:02 AM

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When I first started drinking scotch, I didn't like Glenfiddich at all. Then my sister-in-law gave me a sampler for Christmas with the 12, 15 and 18. I was pleasantly surprised with them all, but epecially the 12. At about 35 bucks a pop around here, that's not too bad. I also have to revisit the Glenlivet 12, because I was never impressed with it either, though the 18 is one of my favorites.

I also like Balvenie, but its just over $50 a bottle here. Not that it is too much, but its less of a bargain than some others being mentioned in here. Though for the money, I actually prefer the Macallan 12 yr sherry cask. Same price and just tastes richer to me with characteristics similar to the balvenie.

Tripp 04-23-2010 10:03 AM

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I'm an Islay fan, my favorite low end malt is Bowmore Legend, generally runs about $30.

wolfandwhisky 04-23-2010 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 837142)
When I first started drinking scotch, I didn't like Glenfiddich at all. Then my sister-in-law gave me a sampler for Christmas with the 12, 15 and 18. I was pleasantly surprised with them all, but epecially the 12. At about 35 bucks a pop around here, that's not too bad. I also have to revisit the Glenlivet 12, because I was never impressed with it either, though the 18 is one of my favorites.

I also like Balvenie, but its just over $50 a bottle here. Not that it is too much, but its less of a bargain than some others being mentioned in here. Though for the money, I actually prefer the Macallan 12 yr sherry cask. Same price and just tastes richer to me with characteristics similar to the balvenie.

If you were pleasantly surprised with the Glenfiddich on the last go-round, I'd recommend finding the Glenfiddich 21 - it is a caribbean rum finished whisky, which pairs well with cigars due to the rum influence. (Springbank and Balvenie also have rum-finished whiskies.)

And Macallan richer than Balvenie? Blasphemy!! :c
(just kidding - to each their own!)

CheapHumidors 04-23-2010 10:46 AM

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Glenlivet 12 is my go-to every day scotch. Not too expensive but good flavor.

BigCat 04-23-2010 10:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfandwhisky (Post 837167)

And Macallan richer than Balvenie? Blasphemy!! :c
(just kidding - to each their own!)

Yeah I said it! I think the Macallan has more body too. But they are both great scotches in my book.

Thanks for the suggestion on the 21. I'll have to give that a try. :tu

Ogre 04-25-2010 07:28 PM

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I bought a bottle of Yamazaki 12 last night, lack of choices. I was impressed with it. It is a Single Malt made in Japan. It has a strong butterscotch flavor and went down real smooth. I usually drink Glenlivit 12.

wolfandwhisky 04-25-2010 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre3239 (Post 839510)
I bought a bottle of Yamazaki 12 last night, lack of choices. I was impressed with it. It is a Single Malt made in Japan. It has a strong butterscotch flavor and went down real smooth. I usually drink Glenlivit 12.

The 18 is also very well regarded. Also from Japan is Karuizawa - the prices seem to really have gone up, but if you can find a bottle I would highly recommend it. :tu

colimo 04-25-2010 11:07 PM

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tbe glenlivet, mccallan and balvenie are all good choices....for around $ 20/btl i usually get either Lismore or McClellands as an everyday drinking scotch...both good for the price when i dont want to touch the good stuff

Ogre 04-30-2010 08:49 PM

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I am having what I would say is the BEST Single Malt I have ever had. Its the Glenfiddich Caoran Reserve. The bottle was a gift from a friend.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...ch12Caoran.jpg

nomadicwookie 04-30-2010 09:50 PM

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I didn't even know this existed. Gonna have to hunt some down.

markem 04-30-2010 09:56 PM

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I've been known to ply cigar smokers on my patio with scotch. I don't know anything about bargain basement ones, however.

If you have questions about 25 y.o. and older and specialized bottlings, I may be able to provide some info from my experience.

Haven't bought any scotch since I quit regularly drinking it, maybe in 2000. Still have 20 or so bottles left (nearly all gone!). The 27 y.o. Rosebank private bottling is an exceptional example of the craft. Only a few wee drams left in that bottle. It shall be missed.

Bigwaved 04-30-2010 10:23 PM

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what patio? what scotch? :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 846007)
I've been known to ply cigar smokers on my patio with scotch. I don't know anything about bargain basement ones, however.

If you have questions about 25 y.o. and older and specialized bottlings, I may be able to provide some info from my experience.

Haven't bought any scotch since I quit regularly drinking it, maybe in 2000. Still have 20 or so bottles left (nearly all gone!). The 27 y.o. Rosebank private bottling is an exceptional example of the craft. Only a few wee drams left in that bottle. It shall be missed.


mithrilG60 04-30-2010 10:42 PM

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I'm with markem, life is too short for cheap scotch but if I had to choose a "bargin" scotch it would be Smokehead for about $60 locally (that's as cheap as malt gets in BC :( ) or significantly less if I pop over to Alberta or WA. My "cheap" scotch used to be Ardbeg 10 and Laphroaig 10 before demand pushed the former to $100/bottle and discontinued the latter in Canada.

In terms of favourite regardless of price?

Toss up between the Laphroiag 15yr (Prince Charles' favourite whisky, awarded his Royal Warrant to the distillery for it), Bowmore 17yr (now re-released as an 18yr) the Ardbeg Airigh Nam Beist, Lagavulin 16 and Longrow 14.

The picture's a little out of date now, but this is my whisky cabinet. I tend to buy in doubles and triples so most of the tubes behind the bottles have an unopened bottle in them as well. My friends refer to them as "shark's teeth" bottles :r

http://gallery.mithril.ca/albums/whi...t_20080324.jpg

captain53 05-01-2010 07:51 AM

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There is no such thing as a "bargain basement" Single Malt if you appreciate the fine qualities of Single Malt then the basement is no place for you to shop. Laphroiag is about the lowest level Single Malt that one can appreciate IMHO.

Brutus2600 05-01-2010 08:04 AM

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My first SMS was a Glenfiddich 12yr...couldn't stand it at all. Learned from my mistake of buying a full 750ml and started trying every single small bottle of SMS I could find. Finally settled on Glenmorangie and bought a bottle of their 10yr. I really enjoyed that and tried their Sherry and Port cask matured bottles too. I've tried many others but I always find myself enjoying these as the best bang for my buck. At ~$60 a bottle it's not cheap, but really that's about as cheap as I can get without getting into bottels I don't like. Of course you can find better stuff for more money, but these have been my favorite "every day" drinkers.

Eleven 05-01-2010 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captain53 (Post 846142)
There is no such thing as a "bargain basement" Single Malt if you appreciate the fine qualities of Single Malt then the basement is no place for you to shop. Laphroiag is about the lowest level Single Malt that one can appreciate IMHO.


I found a bottle of Bowmore for like 20 bucks in Dayton Ohio last year. Of course that was before I found out I was not a fan of Islay!

(MithrilG60, SWEET Ikea whiskey cabinet! I have a shelf like that, never thought to use it for my booze!)

EDIT! - Brutus2600, Glenmorangie is one of my favs too, if you like that, Aberlour isn't too far off in taste profile, even a little smoother I think, those are my 2 go-to's now!

mithrilG60 05-01-2010 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 846147)
(MithrilG60, SWEET Ikea whiskey cabinet! I have a shelf like that, never thought to use it for my booze!)

I searched for a whisky cabinet for a very long time before happpening across that Lack bookcase at IKEA. The problem with most bookcases/wallunits/etc was always their shelf height. I've got a couple bottles, like my Glen Garioch 21yr that came in presentation boxes instead of regular tubes and the Lack bookcase was would fit them. The fact that it looks ok too was a nice by-product ;)

Brutus2600 05-01-2010 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 846147)
EDIT! - Brutus2600, Glenmorangie is one of my favs too, if you like that, Aberlour isn't too far off in taste profile, even a little smoother I think, those are my 2 go-to's now!

I'll have to see if my local store has some Aberlour...I'd definitely be interested in trying it.

And all this talk got me wanting to drink some scotch! So I broke out some Glenmorangie and an Opus X I've been waiting to smoke for awhile. So far pretty tasty! :tu

mosesbotbol 05-16-2010 08:05 AM

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Not sure I would call this a bargain Scotch, but I picked up a bottle of Ardbeg Supernova. Wow is a good intro. Very complex and sweet with an orange and sea taste with a finish that keeps going and going!

Highly recommended, but might not be to everyone's taste.

http://deadlinescotland.files.wordpr...upernova-1.jpg

ChicagoWhiteSox 05-16-2010 12:52 PM

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Moses, what's the msrp on that scotch? Also, was it aged in sherry barrels?

mosesbotbol 05-16-2010 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 860508)
Moses, what's the msrp on that scotch? Also, was it aged in sherry barrels?

I got it for a song, but I think MSRP if you can find is around $150? In UK it is going for almost double that I heard.

As for barrels? I don't know, but it claims to be the peatiest Scotch ever created.

Evonnida 06-04-2010 01:13 AM

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I myself am a fan of Oban... I've yet to try the Ardberg or Laphroig, but both should be happening soon. On a side note, does anyone decant their scotch?

mosesbotbol 06-04-2010 04:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evonnida (Post 877223)
On a side note, does anyone decant their scotch?

I would if there were a few drinking the same bottle and I thought we'd kill what I decant, but that hasn't happened yet.

Decanting would be a good idea in the right situation and is commonly done.

cobra03 06-04-2010 08:09 AM

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Im working on a bottle of Aberlour 12, which is fantastic and not to terribly expensive, but my everyday scotch is McClellands highland. At $23 a bottle its hard to beat. imo

mithrilG60 06-04-2010 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evonnida (Post 877223)
On a side note, does anyone decant their scotch?

I'm not really sure when this would be an advantage as the point of decanting is to either aerate the decanted or separate out sediment (or both). Sediment should never be a problem with whisky and aeration will pre-maturely age the whisky by loosing much the aromatics and with it the whisky's character. That's the same reason you don't want to let a bottle sit for a long time at 50% or less volume.

Decanting might be an advantage if you were hosting a large tasting or event where you could reasonable expect the entire bottle to be consumed over the period of a few days but I probably wouldn't do it otherwise. Whisky also naturally self-decants when you use a proper tulip or thistle shaped glass, and that glass also allows you to nose the aromatics which are just as good (and IMHO often better) as the tasting of the actual liquid ;)

Slow4v 07-08-2010 03:07 PM

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Macallan 17yr Old

hotreds 08-10-2010 06:56 PM

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Highland Park 25

GolfNut 08-10-2010 08:25 PM

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Lagavulin is our favorite here. We wait until we can afford another bottle and switch to something else when we run out......like now. $80/bottle here.

scoot 08-17-2010 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre3239 (Post 845983)
I am having what I would say is the BEST Single Malt I have ever had. Its the Glenfiddich Caoran Reserve. The bottle was a gift from a friend.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...ch12Caoran.jpg

This stuff is seriously good. I was able to sample some at the Whisky Guild's Whisky Classic and chat with the guy there from Glenfiddich about it. Its the standard Glenfiddich 12 but they finnish it in Islay Scotch barrels. A damn shame they don't distribute it in the states.

Tripp 08-17-2010 09:35 PM

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On my honeymoon in the Caribbean last month I picked up a 1L bottle of Laphroaig 10 for a song. :D

jmsremax 08-17-2010 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfandwhisky (Post 837119)
Also, I'd recommend the Balvenie 12 DoubleWood:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31096

Jim poured me a glass when I visited his place and it was good.

hotreds 08-18-2010 06:44 AM

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Recently tried some Rosebank 1991 Gordon MacPhail Cask Strength. Outstanding.

Bill86 08-18-2010 12:02 PM

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I've not had too many scotches but I like Macallan 12 and glenlivet 12 for a cheaper scotch. But Macallan 12 is my go to bar scotch if they have it.

JDTexan 08-18-2010 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 846147)
Glenmorangie is one of my favs too, if you like that, Aberlour isn't too far off in taste profile, even a little smoother I think, those are my 2 go-to's now!

I have been drinking these this summer for about $35 a bottle and loving every dram.

CBI_2 08-22-2010 08:30 PM

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I am still learning about single malts but the best I have had was Glenlivet 18Yr. that my neighbor gave me.

Since I now work at a liquor store, that has some of the best prices anywhere, I just got a bottle of Glen Moray 12Yr. old for $19.99 that I think is very good.

BTW. The store I work at has Glenlivet 21Yr. for $99.99 right now.

SmokeyJoe 08-30-2010 06:23 PM

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Picked up a bottle of this on a whim. Haven't tried it yet (maybe tonight!).

The Singleton of Glendullan

http://www.drinkhacker.com/2008/10/0...dullan-scotch/

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...glendullan.jpg

Anybody try this one?



:ss

CBI_2 08-30-2010 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 971740)
Picked up a bottle of this on a whim. Haven't tried it yet (maybe tonight!).

The Singleton of Glendullan

http://www.drinkhacker.com/2008/10/0...dullan-scotch/

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...glendullan.jpg

Anybody try this one?



:ss

Never tried it but I saw one bottle come into the store and it didn't sit on the shelf very long.

SmokeyJoe 08-30-2010 09:56 PM

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Tried The Singleton tonight...

Caught a fruity/floral scent right away. Had a nice body to it. It was more peaty than I normally like, but it wasn't overpowering. Thought this review I found nailed it:


Quote:

...Glendullan distillery presents its first American offering this fall, The Singleton, a 12-year single malt that most Scotch enthusiasts will likely find perfectly pleasant, if a bit entry-level.

Produced in the crowded Speyside region, Glendullan's 40-proof Singleton is a darker 12-year than most, but the taste is fairly light. Buttery smoke is first on the nose, and in the quaff. Floral notes are secondary, followed by light apple, nutty almond, and faint grassy tones. It's very approachable for a Scotch pro, but I probably wouldn't unleash it as a first-time whisky on a newcomer to the spirit. The more I drink it the more I like it, though I do prefer more honey/vanilla sweetness in my whisky.

On a secondary note: The bottle is an oblong number that resembles an (oversized) flask, a design that's really growing in popularity these days.

Not a terrible price for a Scotch that is likely to be hard to come by for the immediate future. Give it a try if you're a single malt enthusiast.

B+ / $36 / www.malts.com
I look forward to a few more drams. :tu

Wolfgang 10-02-2010 03:23 PM

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Questions. Im normally a rum guy but I thought at the ripe old age of 22 id start branching out.

Im just getting into Single Malts. I just went to Total Wine and talked to them a little and grabbed a bottle of Glenfiddich 12, and Bunnahabain 12.

I came home to find an old unopened bottle of Mcallan 12. I realize it doesnt age outide of the cask but is there a way to tell when this was bought? I also came upon a couple bottles of J&B (any good?)

Based on what i have rounded up is there anything I'm missing?
Doing a tasting with a friend of mine later this week, is there a particular order youd all recommend?

Any and all help is appreciated. :al

SvilleKid 10-02-2010 04:16 PM

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Not a fan of Scotch. Prefer bourbon. That being said, I think I could drink Talisker Distillers Edition just about ANY day of the week. Not expensive, generally $50-65 per bottle range, but NOT available at all in Bama, and difficult to find elsewhere since it's a limited production item.

captain53 10-02-2010 04:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 1008668)
Questions. Im normally a rum guy but I thought at the ripe old age of 22 id start branching out.

Im just getting into Single Malts. I just went to Total Wine and talked to them a little and grabbed a bottle of Glenfiddich 12, and Bunnahabain 12.

I came home to find an old unopened bottle of Mcallan 12. I realize it doesnt age outide of the cask but is there a way to tell when this was bought? I also came upon a couple bottles of J&B (any good?)

Based on what i have rounded up is there anything I'm missing?
Doing a tasting with a friend of mine later this week, is there a particular order youd all recommend?

Any and all help is appreciated. :al

Just like Cigars - drink what you like and buy what you drink. As a scotch newbie you got some popular newbie stuff that are good quality but not usually preferred by seasoned single malt folks. Just got to try them till you find what you like best which is all that matters.

I just poured 3 fingers of Lagavulin 16 over my standard 3 small cubes of distilled water ice which is my favorite but many of my Malt friends find Lagavulin too smokey for them.



J&B is upper medium quality blended not single malt so not even in the running.

Wolfgang 10-02-2010 05:32 PM

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So being a newbie I should learn from the three bottles what I prefer. Correct me if im wrong but Macallan would be the cleanest and Bunnahabvain would be the peatiest? I suspect im going to like the smokey peaty flavor best. Its a flavor throughout my life im drawn to.
We shall see.

captain53 10-02-2010 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 1008806)
So being a newbie I should learn from the three bottles what I prefer. Correct me if im wrong but Macallan would be the cleanest and Bunnahabvain would be the peatiest? I suspect im going to like the smokey peaty flavor best. Its a flavor throughout my life im drawn to.
We shall see.

Heavens no I did not mean you should learn from 3 bottles or anything like that. It is so similar to cigars - try as many as you can. Macallan is on the sweet side but I have never tasted Bunnahabvain.

Wolfgang 10-04-2010 12:42 AM

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I was speaking as to what style highlands, lowlands, Islays etc not just the three brands i currently have. I am by no means close minded.

warren G. 10-23-2010 11:23 PM

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I enjoy Balvenie Double Wood 12, Cragganmore 12, and Laphroaig quarter cask. I don't remember buying much for them (not over $50ish).

GolfNut 10-23-2010 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captain53 (Post 1008762)
I just poured 3 fingers of Lagavulin 16 over my standard 3 small cubes of distilled water ice which is my favorite but many of my Malt friends find Lagavulin too smokey for them.

My favorite too! I like it neat. Perfect during the cold months. :tu


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