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Resipsa 04-21-2010 02:54 PM

2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Come on. You know you are going to watch it tomorrow night.....:banger


Who's your team, and what they gonna do?

Come on baby, Daddy needs a new pair of shoes............well, some teams need new shoes, pants, jocks, underwear, shirts, eyeglasses........:r

St. Lou Stu 04-21-2010 03:08 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Man, I dunno.... Denver needs a QB in a bad way.
I mean a real QB, not their present excuses for a QB.

Only problem is, a drafted rookie QB isn't worth his weight in gnat feces.
Hopefully they can make some pick trades and come up with a winner.

The Poet 04-21-2010 03:08 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Vic, I was just about to post that I pay no attention to it because, unlike the NBA draft, it is seldom that an NFL draft actually has any immediate effect upon a team. Although it's not as meaningless as the MLB draft, it always seems to take a few years before there's any real impact by any player selected.


Then I happened to look to the north, where the Jets have their training facility about a mile from me, and remembered that Mark Sanchez was in town drinking coffee and signing autographs last week. And look at what that pack of perennial losers almost pulled of last year, with only one major change to the squad. So you tell me . . . who's a game-changer coming out this year?

St. Lou Stu 04-21-2010 03:13 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 834747)
Vic, I was just about to post that I pay no attention to it because, unlike the NBA draft, it is seldom that an NFL draft actually has any immediate effect upon a team. Although it's not as meaningless as the MLB draft, it always seems to take a few years before there's any real impact by any player selected.


Then I happened to look to the north, where the Jets have their training facility about a mile from me, and remembered that Mark Sanchez was in town drinking coffee and signing autographs last week. And look at what that pack of perennial losers almost pulled of last year, with only one major change to the squad. So you tell me . . . who's a game-changer coming out this year?

The only one that has a chance IMHO is that boy from Oklahoma..... whatshisface.:D

GreekGodX 04-21-2010 03:14 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Lions look like they finally have something going for them :) Hopefully we can get Suh

jledou 04-21-2010 03:16 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Hadn't really thought about it much yet but it looks like the Raiders are looking for O-Line, I would still say that they could use something else too but hey if anything is a given Uncle Al is definitely not going to what everyone else thinks he should do.

Look for another unheard of corner back or wide receiver?

tx_tuff 04-21-2010 03:17 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 834747)
Vic, I was just about to post that I pay no attention to it because, unlike the NBA draft, it is seldom that an NFL draft actually has any immediate effect upon a team. Although it's not as meaningless as the MLB draft, it always seems to take a few years before there's any real impact by any player selected.

Are you serious? There are many players every year that make impact as rookies!

tx_tuff 04-21-2010 03:19 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 834767)
Hadn't really thought about it much yet but it looks like the Raiders are looking for O-Line, I would still say that they could use something else too but hey if anything is a given Uncle Al is definitely not going to what everyone else thinks he should do.

Look for another unheard of corner back or wide receiver?

I feel for Raider fans! I see all the mock drafts with them taking a OL and I think do these guys really know Al Davis LOL.

tx_tuff 04-21-2010 03:21 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I'm a Texans fan and I'm hoping that either RD Matthews or CB McCourtny will be there for them to pick up. I really want them to get Matthews!

NeverEnoughStick 04-21-2010 03:22 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Any feelings on how this Roethelisberger situation is going to affect the draft?

E.J. 04-21-2010 03:25 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
"...with the 11th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Denver Broncos take Dez Bryant, wide reciever, Oklahoma State University....."

Commander Quan 04-21-2010 03:25 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverEnoughStick (Post 834776)
Any feelings on how this Roethelisberger situation is going to affect the draft?

Everyone drafted will have to give a DNA sample.

:r

The Poet 04-21-2010 03:33 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_tuff (Post 834768)
Are you serious? There are many players every year that make impact as rookies!

Hang around here long enough, and you'll learn - I'm NEVER serious. :D

NeverEnoughStick 04-21-2010 03:36 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 834780)
Everyone drafted will have to give a DNA sample.

:r

Sad but true! :r

forgop 04-21-2010 03:40 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu (Post 834746)
Man, I dunno.... Denver needs a QB in a bad way.
I mean a real QB, not their present excuses for a QB.

Only problem is, a drafted rookie QB isn't worth his weight in gnat feces.
Hopefully they can make some pick trades and come up with a winner.

Orton is decent-he just needs a WR now and they need some help on defense.

NeverEnoughStick 04-21-2010 03:42 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I hope the 'Skins strengthen up the O-line. Protect the aging McNabb and provide protection for our RB's

PeteSB75 04-21-2010 08:26 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverEnoughStick (Post 834794)
I hope the 'Skins strengthen up the O-line. Protect the aging McNabb and provide protection for our RB's

Who you kidding? The danny will waste another first round pick on yet another qb. Because that's really what we need...

MiamiE 04-21-2010 08:36 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Dolphins are going to trade down.

Resipsa 04-22-2010 07:00 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
tick tock.....who's on the clock?

NeverEnoughStick 04-22-2010 07:08 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 835093)
Who you kidding? The danny will waste another first round pick on yet another qb. Because that's really what we need...

I agree but what are our options? We pick 4th and the only two I think are going to make it in the NFL are Bradford whos going either 1st or 2nd and Tebow.

I think we can hold out for atleast another year. Because if we draft a QB who do we have to protect them? We would be better off strengthening the O-line then getting a QB next year or something.

OLS 04-22-2010 07:22 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 834717)
Who's your team, and what they gonna do?

Hahaha, well, after 4 decades+ of picking in the top ten, I am afraid MY team is picking
DEAD LAST, YAHOOOOoooo!
So I don't expect we'll make for much news headlines, but you know what? I am still entirely satisfied
with how my Saints did last year. I couldn't be prouder. I am not sure any other team that has won
the championship feels like I do and did after it happened. It's only a football game after all. But that
mountain was HIGH for the first team Tampa Bay ever beat. That said, I'd like to see some good
defensive interior linemen be available, some O line, maybe a late round RB and a good solid linebacker
to replace Scott Fujita.

OLS 04-22-2010 07:26 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I see the Raiders trading their what, #4 pick?, to Pittsburgh for that rat$}{I+ Roethlisberger.
Maybe Denver should beat em to it?
I see Tebow coming to the Saints in the first round, and playing Fullback. :D

MikeyC 04-22-2010 09:46 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 835477)
Hahaha, well, after 4 decades+ of picking in the top ten, I am afraid MY team is picking
DEAD LAST, YAHOOOOoooo!
So I don't expect we'll make for much news headlines, but you know what? I am still entirely satisfied
with how my Saints did last year. I couldn't be prouder. I am not sure any other team that has won
the championship feels like I do and did after it happened. It's only a football game after all. But that
mountain was HIGH for the first team Tampa Bay ever beat. That said, I'd like to see some good
defensive interior linemen be available, some O line, maybe a late round RB and a good solid linebacker
to replace Scott Fujita.

:tpd:

But I will say that the Patriots come in second in terms of tough roads to a Championship. The Pats were the doormat of the league (like the Saints) for over 40 years. They rarely fielded a team which could be considered competitive. The one reason I give the Saints the edge is because the Pats were in the big game twice before they actually won it. Both times they were unexpected participants in the game and both times they got pretty solidly trounced each time they set Superbowl records (and not in a good way).

One thing that's really different this year about the draft is the high volume of pre-draft trades. Now that there's no salary cap to worry about trades are much easier to arrange. All these trades has really re-shaped the needs of many teams and will certainly affect the order in which players fall and the value of every pick in the draft.

My one wish for my team this year is that they actually USE their 1st round pick. I hate when the Pats trade out of the 1st round. The team could REALLY use some impact players on defense especially.

King James 04-22-2010 11:44 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 834791)
Orton is decent-he just needs a WR now and they need some help on defense.

Orton blows (sorry, personal bias against him haha) Denver did pick up Brady Quinn, see if maybe he would be a better fit over there then cleveland. I certainly would start him over Kyle Orton

jledou 04-22-2010 12:11 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 835481)
I see the Raiders trading their what, #4 pick?, to Pittsburgh for that rat$}{I+ Roethlisberger.
Maybe Denver should beat em to it?
I see Tebow coming to the Saints in the first round, and playing Fullback. :D

Ummm yeah the Raiders said they weren't interested this morning ... I guess since he wasn't found guilty he couldn't cut it as a Raider .... :tu

OLS 04-22-2010 02:28 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 835659)
My one wish for my team this year is that they actually USE their 1st round pick. I hate when the Pats trade out of the 1st round. The team could REALLY use some impact players on defense especially.

I think you kind of set it up for success this year, in that the Pats had a knack of making
cast off players work out to fit their scheme, and they could achieve a lot more with less,
at least to a greater degree than most teams in the league. All this "junk" would go to
Foxboro and end up looking like Gold.
This year they looked oddly beaten.
I think that will lead them to use that pick, lol.

OLS 04-22-2010 02:31 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jledou (Post 835803)
I guess since he wasn't found guilty he couldn't cut it as a Raider .... :tu

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...hehe.

OLS 04-22-2010 02:33 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I thought I was the only one who thought the Bears Broncos trade was just $hit being traded for $hit.
You send your crap over here and we'll send out crap over there, and we'll find out if it's just the altitude.

forgop 04-22-2010 03:59 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 835777)
Orton blows (sorry, personal bias against him haha) Denver did pick up Brady Quinn, see if maybe he would be a better fit over there then cleveland. I certainly would start him over Kyle Orton

Right-Brady Quinn, a former first round draft pick that led his team to a 5-11 record with the 32nd ranked passing offense in the NFL.

Orton is far from a top 10 QB, but he's not in the bottom 10 either.

E.J. 04-22-2010 04:46 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
As a Broncos fan, I am not worried about the QB situation.... I do have concerns about who their potential QB's are going to throw to though.....

The Broncos have MANY, MANY needs, but QB is not one of them.....

forgop 04-22-2010 05:10 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 836234)
As a Broncos fan, I am not worried about the QB situation.... I do have concerns about who their potential QB's are going to throw to though.....

The Broncos have MANY, MANY needs, but QB is not one of them.....

:tpd:

You can make many other improvements that would be much more significant upgrades than what the Broncos could get ahead of Orton. I think Quinn was brought in to compete for the starting job, but given how bad Simms was, he was primarily brought in to hold a clipboard.

St. Lou Stu 04-22-2010 08:24 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Broncos musta thought different, as did I.


Yay Tebow!!!! I hope that works out!

forgop 04-22-2010 08:28 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu (Post 836534)
Broncos musta thought different, as did I.


Yay Tebow!!!! I hope that works out!

Tebow? He's already reached his ceiling. Excellent college player, but virtually every facet of his game translates to mediocre at the NFL. Dumb move IMO.

jmsremax 04-22-2010 08:43 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836539)
Tebow? He's already reached his ceiling. Excellent college player, but virtually every facet of his game translates to mediocre at the NFL. Dumb move IMO.

Expect him to run their wild cat-type offense. I am shocked he went 1st round.

kelmac07 04-22-2010 08:50 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
My Bills need a QB and what do they draft??? A RB...nothing wrong at all with CJ SPiller, but Clausen would have been a perfect fit. Oh well...another cold season in Buffalo. :td :td

forgop 04-22-2010 09:10 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsremax (Post 836559)
Expect him to run their wild cat-type offense. I am shocked he went 1st round.

I personally don't see him even moving into the #2 spot ahead of Quinn.

MikeyC 04-22-2010 09:19 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsremax (Post 836559)
Expect him to run their wild cat-type offense. I am shocked he went 1st round.

I was stunned that Tebow went in the 1st round. I'm also surprised that Denver traded for a 2nd first round pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 836087)
I think you kind of set it up for success this year, in that the Pats had a knack of making
cast off players work out to fit their scheme, and they could achieve a lot more with less,
at least to a greater degree than most teams in the league. All this "junk" would go to
Foxboro and end up looking like Gold.
This year they looked oddly beaten.
I think that will lead them to use that pick, lol.

I think the reason the Patriots did so well with cast off players in the past was that they were running different schemes than everyone else. Now half the league is running a 3-4 defense and/or has an ex-Patriot as the GM or coach.

Well the Pats did pick in the 1st round this year. They just traded down two times first. UGH!!! No offense to the player they took (I know nothing about him) but I wish they would be a little more agressive in the draft. Now that there's no salary cap there's not really an advantage in using this strategy. I'm just tired of the Pats drafting mediocre players. We need IMPACT players.

E.J. 04-22-2010 09:28 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I am a pretty positive guy as far as my teams go....and have nothing good to say about the Broncos draft....

I hope the powers that be prove me wrong....

King James 04-22-2010 09:53 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836196)
Right-Brady Quinn, a former first round draft pick that led his team to a 5-11 record with the 32nd ranked passing offense in the NFL.

Orton is far from a top 10 QB, but he's not in the bottom 10 either.

lets not forget he was not the only starter for that team last season. Not that he had a standout year regardless, but I'd take him over Orton

wolfandwhisky 04-22-2010 10:06 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836539)
Tebow? He's already reached his ceiling. Excellent college player, but virtually every facet of his game translates to mediocre at the NFL. Dumb move IMO.

:tpd:

I've been a Broncos fan for over 20 years - Orton has potential, Tebow, I'm not sure about. It reminds me of Warner/Leinart but our version of Warner just hasn't quite gotten there yet (partially due to options).

I'm optimistic because I have no choice. Go Broncos! :banger

doctorcue 04-22-2010 10:20 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I'm so happy with the Raiders taking McClain @ #8. We have needed a strong ILB presence; this will provide it. Now onto Round 2!!

GreekGodX 04-23-2010 03:10 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
For as long as Best can stay healthy and provide the home-run threat he is, I am very happy with the Lions draft. I feel they could have gotten him in the 2nd round but who knows what was going on behind the scenes.

coastietech 04-23-2010 06:18 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
I'm pretty stoked about the Jets pick up of Wilson... He will make a great addition to the nickel and is a powerhouse on special teams.

I still think Cody would have made a nice pick up with Jenkins being hurt last year and all, but overall I am very impressed with the move this team has made during offseason and this draft pick is no different. On paper there isn't a team in the NFL right now with more raw talent. Hopefully that shows up on the field. :tu

Bigwaved 04-23-2010 06:30 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 836654)
lets not forget he was not the only starter for that team last season. Not that he had a standout year regardless, but I'd take him over Orton

He did nothing with his opportunity in Cleveland. It really seemed like he was not playing with confidence. Either the offense was very limited play calling wise or he could not progress through his options down field last year. Teams did not have to respect any routes past 8-10 yards. It was pitiful. Painful to watch. He was not a trouble maker even though his stay in Cleveland was not very rosey. I wish him well, as soon as he plays for someone else besides the Broncos...

OLS 04-23-2010 06:36 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836539)
Tebow? He's already reached his ceiling. Excellent college player, but virtually every facet of his game translates to mediocre at the NFL. Dumb move IMO.

I see and hear this all the time, obviously, and NO ONE on earth hates
Tebow more than me, but this statement is chock full of holes and unknowables. I think you are
forgetting a little something called GOD.
DO you think Tebow's heavenly father will let him fail? snort! I don't see that happening.


:D

OLS 04-23-2010 06:40 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 836566)
My Bills need a QB and what do they draft??? A RB...nothing wrong at all with CJ SPiller, but Clausen would have been a perfect fit. Oh well...another cold season in Buffalo. :td :td

This was the surprise of the night for me as well. Tebow couldn't have come close to surprising me like
the Spiller pick did.

Kreth 04-23-2010 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 836947)
I see and hear this all the time, obviously, and NO ONE on earth hates
Tebow more than me, but this statement is chock full of holes and unknowables. I think you are
forgetting a little something called GOD.
DO you think Tebow's heavenly father will let him fail? snort! I don't see that happening.


:D

I think Tebow will be calling out to "Dad" the first time a Ray Lewis or Jared Allen puts a hit on him as he takes a minute or so to pick a receiver. :r
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jmsremax 04-23-2010 07:05 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836593)
I personally don't see him even moving into the #2 spot ahead of Quinn.

Depends on how he does in camp. I can't disagree with your comment but Quinn sucks.

forgop 04-23-2010 07:14 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

King James 04-23-2010 07:35 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 836980)
Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

:tpd:

I had more typed out, but don't think its worth posting. So will just leave it as I agree with you


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