Is 3D being over done?
 

I was thinking yesterday while watching How to train your dragon in 3D, I cannot help but feel that 3D is being over done. It's like the latest trend in film making and I feel like it is too much too soon.

I enjoy a 3D movie on occasion, though I will admit it gives me a headache and I have to take the glasses off a few times during the movie and close my eyes.

I feel like Hollywood is going to use this technology as a means to market crappy movies. This has not been the case with every 3D movie, but it has been the case with several (Alice in Wonderland, Spy Kids 3D, etc.)

Our HD technology is not even perfected yet and everyone seems balls to the wall with putting stuff in 3D.

My other concern is their are a few movies that are 3D that the kids will want when they come out. How will those transfer to our home TV?

Hollywood needs to focus on new screenplays and fresh ideas and less 3D.

Thoughts?

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This is why I still haven't see Avatar (I read the screenplay). You have to ask yourself if it would be worth watching if it were 2D line drawn animation or 2D live acting.

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In general, Yes. Now I am seeing ads for 3D TVs and Blu-Ray Players. I honestly think it's a phase and this time next year 3D movies won't be so common place.

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Yep. It's cool once in a while, but gives me a headache

aj

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My friend swears it's the wave of the future for the movie industry, whereas I think it's just faddish, and I really don't like it in the first place.

If they continue doing 3-D, half the films are going to be shot with the characters facing directly into the camera...lame...

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The problem is that they are able to charge more for the tickets at the theatres, and it is incentive to increase theatre attendance. DVDs took a huge chunk out of their attendance numbers over the last dozen years. 3D is putting butts back in seats like nothing else they've done has. Similar change to how color affected the movies, IMO. It's not a fad, and it's not going away. quality will improve as more movies are shot in it, as Avatar was, instead of converted as Alice was. Like any other business, they follow the money. More profits on 3D movies = more 3D movies.

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Well the main problem is that most of these movies aren't actually shot as 3d films. They're being retrofitted in post production. Avatar was intended to be a 3d movie and was shot with new 3d cameras. Clash of the Titans, Alice in Wonderland, etc--they're shot like any other film. Then someone on a computer forces them to be 3d.

But bottom line; yes, it's completely overdone. It has never once made a movie better for me. 2001: A Space Odyssey was made in 2d (in the sixties), still looks phenomenal, and is better than almost everything out coming out nowadays.

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Similar thoughts were expressed when movies went from silent to sound, that sound would be the downfall of the silent actors. They adapted a new acting style which was less mime and more natural. Movies survived.

When movies went from B&W to color some people predicted that color would allow movie makers to produce sheer crap and just dazzle you with the colors rather than substance and quality. They couldn't have been more wrong.

Television was predicted to be the death of movies on a number of occasions. This prediction has yet to come to be. Movies grew and became more than what they had been.

3D isn't the end of quality movies, rather, it's beginning of a new era for movie making. It's in it's infancy now and growing by leaps and bounds, you can't judge it this early on. Will it replace 2D movies? Hard to say. But it will, at the very least, supplement them. Your great grandparents or grandparents and partents watched these other technologies unfold, now you have a front seat to this one. Enjoy the show.

Those scripts that you feel sucked? Some of them still would have been green-lit if there was no 3D, not all of them were written specifically for 3D. There have always been crappy scripts. There will always be crappy scripts.


They'll be flat, kind of 2D. :r

The spectacle won't be there, for the short term. In about 2 years there will be 3D home HDTVs and players available.

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The old 3D of the 70s and 80s went away b/c it sucked. I'm not sure if it's going to go away this time. I've yet to see a film in 3D nowadays b/c I'm not gonna pay ridiculous prices to get in. I'm just fine seeing it in 2D.

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It was cool in the 50's. Now, it's a gimmick.

:2

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If you go to a Century theater, you can go to the first showing of the day for like $7. 3D included!

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Oh come on, watching Jaws and Freddy Krueger both explode in 3D was soooooo cool man...

(then again, it could have been the booze we snuck into the theatre)

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Way over done. Let's get HD perfected first.

3d gives me a headache anyway. So, I don't watch it any how.

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3D right now is a waste. There isn't enough 3D content to warrant buying a tv and blu-ray player in 3D. I wouldn't bother until there is more content and they start actually using 3D cameras.

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3D is fantastic for movies like Avatar, that are intended from conception, and produced specifically to be in 3D. The problem comes up with movies like Alice In Wonderland, 3D effects were added as an afterthought, because it would add revenue. With Avatar, its there to enhance the experience, not as a gimmick.

also, IMHO, if you think its a gimmick, and haven't seen Avatar, 10 to 1 says it'll change your mind about 3D movies, so do yourself a favor and go see it.

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I'll take those odds. I think Avatar is the most overrated piece of crap I think I've seen since Ishtar. :r Effects don't lure me in anymore. It's good writing and acting that is the key. Niether of which we see often anymore.

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I've heard they are getting new tv's and video game systems ready for 3D games.
The idea seem zany and crazy but I'm with D on how it bugs my eyes. I don't see a lot of movies in 3D last one was avatar and I had to take my glasses off a few times.

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I hate 3D! My kids, they love it! And of course most of the 3D movies are kid movies. I don't see this going away anytime soon, just seems to be more and more movies coming out in it and people eating this stuff up! By the way took the kids to see "How To Train Your Dragon" in 2D yesterday. But have a feeling we have to still take them to see it in 3D also.

As far as DVDs, all the 3D movies coming out now in 3D you can view in 2D or 3D with glass that come with the DVD. But its old school 3D with the different color lenses.

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And it never will be until the day it is retired.

It's a technology that has near limitless potential for improvement.

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Overdone like burnt toast.

And, what annoys me even more, is that other folks are using it to market products that have nothing to do with 3D.

Last night I saw a commercial for 3D teeth whitening strips.
Give me an effen break!

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I agree about Avatar... I was jaded when I went into the theater, but was blown away by the imagery...

The plot kinda sucked though.... think "Dances with Wolves" :rolleyes:

I think the whole idea about 3D is gimmicky at best but on occasion it can be well done if designed to shot/produced in 3D from the start.

Agree about the concept of 3D TV's being ridiculous...

In general, there is so LITTLE original and good movies coming out these days... Some of the crap makes you wonder what kind of drugs the Hollywood king-pins are on to "green light" some of the projects... "Dumb and Dumber" being my case in point :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm waiting for Shrek 3D :D My 3.5 year old son is going to trip out as it will be his 1st movie experience.

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I think it is inevitable that 3D will replace 2D if not an altogether projection method. When, don't ask...

The future will be direct access to the brain instead of watching through the eyes. Total Recall will be the reality.

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Not as good as Turbo Laser Micro 3D teeth whitening strips. :D

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Part of the problem is that Theater owners say it costs $50,000-$70,000 to convert a theater room to 3D. Plus they say they spend $50 for each pair of glasses (although I find it hard to believe that the crappy things they handed out were worth more than 50 cents :)).

Anyway, the owners are pushing 3D so that they can recoup their investment. My guess is that you will see more and more movies in 3D as a result.

They made the investment in 3D in another attempt to get people away from the HT systems and into their pricey theaters...

What I really want is 3D movies without the glasses...

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Well, remember that 3D was pushed back in the 70s as well. Technology is much better, but I do wonder if it will really ever become standard. Let's face it, many if not most movies don't need 3D to "make" them.

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There is no way those glasses cost $50 a piece because you don't even have to return them! Hell I have prob 6 to 10 pair in my trucj thanks to the kids LOL.

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Personally I love 3D when it's used properly. Went to see avatar 3 times and was blown away each time. Made me go out and buy 3D toothpaste.

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I personally feel 3D is over the top for tv. I don't want to have to wear glasses everytime I want to watch something on the tube. :2

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Bingo! :r
I think certain theaters should cater to this market. Serving alcohol at the movies would make the experience much better for certain films.

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Like boring Chick Flicks that us guys get dragged to...

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We have them here in Portland! :D

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My problem with 3D is that I wear GLASSES. Have you tried fitting the 3D glasses you have to buy with each tickets over your prescription glasses? (I can't wear contacts). I think they need to make a pair of clip-ons for those who wear glasses.

I also think it's ridiculous to make you buy another set of 3D glasses for each movie and I was told that you have to pay extra to cover the cost of the 3D glasses. Why can't they just be upfront and say, "Hey! We haven't screwed enough people out of their money today so pay extra!"

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We have one here in Richmond, too. New theater downtown, pretty nice.

As for 3D, I have to agree with T.G. Movie execs & producers, including James Cameron, were interviewed in USA Today last week (I know, I know, but I was in a hotel and got it for free...) and said pretty much the same thing. They're not thinking of 3D as a gimmick, but as a tool. More films will use the technique, until it's refined and becomes part of the "movie experience," like sound and color were before it.

Hopefully by then they'll figure out why I get nauseous in 3D. :D

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I haven't seen a movie in 3D yet, but would love to do so. It's not going anywhere - in fact I predict the next TV I buy will be 3D capable.

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Hows that 3D working out? Anyone see Smurfs in 3D? :D

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I agree I think its a fad that will fade like the laser disc.

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I for one love 3D if it's made correctly, best 3D I have ever seen was COMING AT YA, anyone ever heard of it? The movie itself sucks balls, but the 3D in is amazing and entire movie every 5 seconds something is COMING AT YA.

I feel 3D is being run into the ground and they are now ruining it. Do we really need 3D tv's so our favorite sports players can jump out at us??? I don't need an ugly ass Shaq in my house *Shudder*

And now cable is jumping on the bandwagon and now offering 3D.....it's run it's course....as one person said it was cool in the 50's now it's just a gimmick.

Again, if it's done right like the film I mentioned above then by all means make it in 3D, but I don't want to see Twilight in 3D or anything like that, where only the fight sequences are in 3D.

There, just my :2

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I actually picked up a 3D tv, not because I wanted a 3D tv, but because I got a great price on it, and due to the nature of 3D the processor in this TV is insane. I suppose I could have just purchased a high end TV with a 240 MHZ processor, but I figured for the novelty and a few extra bucks (less than 100) for a 3D setup, it was worth it.

I've watched a few baseball games with the 3D feature turned on, and its ok, adds depth back into the TV, not projecting out at you, but the few movies that I've watched have been really cool, Monsters VS. Aliens specifically.

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I have yet to watch anything in the new 3d. Except women's volleyball at the NEX electronics isle:noon

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In cockpit motorsports should be interesting in 3D.

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I'm not a big 3D fan, but I was happy with the red and blue glasses 3D. :D
I can't see a huge margin of quality difference between the big 3D push right now and the 3D of 10 years ago, but I've not given it a lot of thought.
I very much enjoyed Avatar in 3D, but the whole time I was thinking "I cannot wait to see this on my tv". I was not disappointed in the least. I'd like to see it in bluray on my screen again, as I think I haven't seen it on our new tv.

I agree with Mean D about the discomfort, it takes me awhile to get used to the glasses and it's uncomfortable until my eyes adjust. I can see where people would get headaches.

I'd sit the whole deal straight into the "latest and greatest" garbage can were it my call, but some really enjoy it. As long as it's making folks happy, I'm glad it's around.

I can say that I'd be irked if my theatre were only playing 3D versions of movies I want to see. Fortunately the one we go to has 10 or 12 screens and they always play the non-3D version as well as the 3D. That works for me. :tu

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3D in the home will take off if it is embraced by the "adult film" industry. Just keepin' it real.

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It doesn't allow the word because we'd rather not have CA come up on search engines for such content.

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Kind of like what happened when that industry embraced HD-DVD instead of Blu-Ray? Just keepin' it real, yo. :hy

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And 18 months later... the number of 3D sets, players and movies out there has increased greatly.


Laser Disc wasn't really a fad. For being such an expensive early technology it had quite a long run, over 20 years. Ultimately, why it died was the cost and the convenience of newer technology had outpaced it.

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3-D is like all the reality shows it's make money right now but everyone gets all fed-up with it it will go the way of the Dodo bird... -(P

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I think 3D TV is a fad. It will fade like tight-rolled jeans.

BTW, the 120/240 Hz rating on TVs is not the processor speed. It is the refresh rate. It is a measurement of the number of times per second (Hz, not MHz which would be millions of times per second) the screan is redrawn/refreshed. The higher the number the less blurring you'll see when watching action movies or other fast motion. That said, the human eye has a very hard time detecting refresh rates over about 85 Hz. I have somewhat of a sensitive eye and I can tell see flicker visible due to low refresh rates (especially old CRTs) at rates up to 75 Hz. Once they hit 85 Hz, I can't see the flicker anymore and the screen appears static or solid.

Low refresh rates common to CRTs and low end LCD TVs usually start at 60 Hz. While you may not have a senstive eye that can see the flicker it will still cause eye strain. Again CRTs are much worse than any LCD, but still I would recommend the 120 Hz models. 240 Hz in my opinon is overkill. If you're eye can't detect it, why pay extra for it?

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I could go for some 3D "Adult entertainment":tu

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no way! there are some things I don't want flying out at me from the TV screen, just sayin'

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Someone had to say it...