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skibumdc 01-20-2010 06:00 AM

When do you own a box?
 
According to Addiction's wording, if you consume 1 cigar out of a box, you no longer have a BOX.

For example, he has 5 full intact boxes of Cohiba Reservas, and 1 open box.

Now MOST of us would say he has 6 boxes, but Addiction is VERY specific in his wording and says he only has 5 boxes.

Is his math or wording correct?

If his wording is true, then I only have 3 boxes.

I tried using that Fuzzy Math with my wife http://www.internationalcigarclub.co...n_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.co...n_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.co...n_rolleyes.gif
Yeah, she didn't buy it.

So, if I open a PSD4 box and consume 1 or 2 cigars, do I still have a box?

tobii3 01-20-2010 06:01 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
I own 100's of boxes.

No more cigars in them though.....:r

chachee52 01-20-2010 06:43 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
So If have a bag of chips and eat one chip, than I don't have a bag of chips anymore? Which means than I can go buy another bag of chips? hmmmmmm I might need to use this one!!

RightAJ 01-20-2010 07:07 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
All I know is that Addiction better have a good security system because those SIX boxes of Cohiba Reservas sound freakin sweet:ss

aj

skibumdc 01-20-2010 07:09 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
He doesn't need a security system....have you seen him?
If someone crossed him, they might never find the body :)

RightAJ 01-20-2010 07:18 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skibumdc (Post 726904)
He doesn't need a security system....have you seen him?
If someone crossed him, they might never find the body :)

Haha no never seen him. Ok I'll be sure to come in body armor lol

Man some of you guys smoke some crazy stuff...

aj

slickster81 01-20-2010 07:36 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Prime example of the old adage (correctly worded, Adam of Leeds, Yorkshire will back me up on this one....)

You can't eat your cake and have it too.....

(i.e. American way of saying it is "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is absurd since if you have the cake, of course you can eat it, however the correct adage states you cannot eat the cake and also have it.)

Hope that clears this mess up!!!

Hahahaaaaaaaaa:hf:hf:hf

Addiction 01-20-2010 08:03 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 726910)
Haha no never seen him. Ok I'll be sure to come in body armor lol

Man some of you guys smoke some crazy stuff...

aj

Unless things have changed a lot since my days in the service no body armor for the face lol.

Addiction 01-20-2010 08:04 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

Skywalker 01-20-2010 08:11 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
A diesel train left the station traveling north 1.5 hours before a freight train. The freight train traveled in the opposite direction going 6 km/h faster then the diesel train for two hours after which time the trains were 312.3 km apart. Find the diesel train's speed.

What was the question???
:confused:

I never was good with math!!!:r

shilala 01-20-2010 08:17 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
A box of cigars is a box of cigars if it's full of the cigars that came in it.
If it's been opened, then it's a full open box of cigars.
If I sell a box of 2006 Anejos and some are 2005, it ain't a box of 2006 Anejos.
Once it's empty, it's just a box.
For me, it's time to get another box once the first one comes out. That way the others are getting ready for when the open box is getting smoked.
I'm not sure what MOBD is talking about, but if it's a train full of cigars, I get to cherry pick. I called it first. :tu

slickster81 01-20-2010 08:18 AM

Re: When do you own a box? Dilemma Solved!!!!
 
Solved using Spock logic.....

If Addiction sends Slick his open boxes, then he will have nothing but full boxes based on the definition of the many. :D



Too darn much coffee this morning........

icehog3 01-20-2010 09:09 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
25 sticks in the box = A box

24 sticks in the box = A partial box

Blueface 01-20-2010 09:19 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 726985)
Once it's empty, it's just a box.

And we can give it to Richard to use on a very cold Florida day.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 727026)
25 sticks in the box = A box

24 sticks in the box = A partial box

What happens if the box is comprised of 24? 20?
Holy crap!!! A box that comes with 24 to begin with is thereby only A Partial Box?:r
Man, that complicates things even more now.:r

icehog3 01-20-2010 09:34 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727044)

What happens if the box is comprised of 24? 20?
Holy crap!!! A box that comes with 24 to begin with is thereby only A Partial Box?:r
Man, that complicates things even more now.:r

I was wondering who the first joker would be, Carlos...I shoulda figured. :r

groogs 01-20-2010 09:40 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
I have to agree with Addiction, a box of cigars is a full box.

Blueface 01-20-2010 09:55 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 727057)
I was wondering who the first joker would be, Carlos...I shoulda figured. :r

:r
Glad to help out and not disappoint.
Man can I have fun with this one for a while.:r

icehog3 01-20-2010 09:57 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727087)
:r
Glad to help out and not disappoint.
Man can I have fun with this one for a while.:r

If you disagree, I have a box of Escudos to sell you for $300.

There are only 4 cigars in it, but it's a box, right? :)




(I am not selling Cuban cigars, this is a inside joke / lame attempt at humor).

GKitty 01-20-2010 10:04 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 726968)
If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

:tpd: For the sake of transactions.

To my own personal stock keeping:
If it's only missing 3 or fewer, it's still a box.
If it's short a 5er or more, then it's most of a box.
Obviously, if approximately half the original number remain, it's half a box.
If there's less than 1/3 of the original number, I have none... and an excuse to go shopping. :D

Here's the brainbender: If I have two boxes of the same cigar (both date & factory stamps are identical), does combining two partial boxes mean I once again have a box?

McSmokey 01-20-2010 10:11 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 727098)
Here's the brainbender: If I have two boxes of the same cigar (both date & factory stamps are identical), does combining two partial boxes mean I once again have a box?

I would say yes because supposedly all sticks came from the same factory on the same date

Cigargal 01-20-2010 10:16 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

Blueface 01-20-2010 10:40 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
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Is this a partial box of cigars or partially a box of cigars?
Is it even a box at all?
Does this person even have cigars?
Is it half full or half empty, if he once had another box to go with this once use to be box?
Could these Anejos be too old to qualify as cigars and now should be called vintage?
Does a box of vintage qualify as a box of cigars?
Does a box that once housed cigars and is now empty still qualify as a box of cigars or is it just a box that WAS for cigars?
Why does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?
Why do people drive on parkways and park on driveways?
Why do birds suddenly appear, every time, you are near, just like me, they long to be, close to you. On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided................................
Why did I just recite the freaking lyrics to a Carpenters song?
What the hell am I doing?
Why am I not smoking a cigar from a box that use to be a box before I killed the idea it is still a box?

markem 01-20-2010 10:44 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 727090)
If you disagree, I have a box of Escudos to sell you for $300.

There are only 4 cigars in it, but it's a box, right? :)

me http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/20...kChOcOlate.gif me http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/20...kChOcOlate.gif pick me. The rest of you stay away http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs15/f/20..._by_Zeraga.gif

Quote:

(I am not selling Cuban cigars, this is a inside joke / lame attempt at humor).
oh fiddle sticks http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs40/f/20...Yoshiko_86.gif

rack04 01-20-2010 10:50 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 727105)
I would say yes because supposedly all sticks came from the same factory on the same date

I respectfully disagree. What if the boxes came from different vendors? What if they have different shade wrappers? There are a lot of variances between boxes. I couldn't in good conscience combine two partial boxes into one and market it as a box.

McSmokey 01-20-2010 10:52 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Carlos you'll need to send those to me so I can confirm that it is not a box :dr :r:r

Blueface 01-20-2010 10:55 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 727135)
I respectfully disagree. What if the boxes came from different vendors? What if they have different shade wrappers? There are a lot of variances between boxes. I couldn't in good conscience combine two partial boxes into one and market it as a box.

Shading is just for presentation.
Many boxes, in spite of color segmentation have various shades within it.
In fact, many boxes have had one shade on the top row with yet a different shade on the bottom row.

Blueface 01-20-2010 10:55 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 727140)
Carlos you'll need to send those to me so I can confirm that it is not a box

Wish I could.
Not mine.
Found it on Google Images.:r

I have a feeling I am going to have fun with this thread.:r

Is an egg a chicken or is an egg not a chicken because it has yet to hatch? If a chicken is then born with one leg, since it does not have two, is it then not a chicken, or better yet, is it a Partial Chicken?:r

McSmokey 01-20-2010 10:57 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
I've been had!!! :r:r

bobarian 01-20-2010 10:58 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigargal (Post 727108)
I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

My brain hurts!
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7779/brainhurts.gif

Blueface 01-20-2010 11:01 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727147)

Is an egg a chicken or is an egg not a chicken because it has yet to hatch? If a chicken is then born with one leg, since it does not have two, is it then not a chicken, or better yet, is it a Partial Chicken?:r

Does it matte what you call it as it won't be able to freaking walk over to you anyway?:r
Next,
What if that "whatever" goes to market, is bought and cooked. What does mom tell her family she cooked?
What if it had two legs, is cooked and someone eats one leg. No longer a chicken?

This is killing me!!!
I need to know!!!

Deputy 01-20-2010 11:05 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
This is a weird topic. The arguement is one of semantics...i would classify a box of cigars as one full of cigars. But too each their own. This will probably be as varied as peoples tastes in cigars.

slickster81 01-20-2010 11:27 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy (Post 727161)
This is a weird topic. The arguement is one of semantics...i would classify a box of cigars as one full of cigars. But too each their own. This will probably be as varied as peoples tastes in cigars.

It would be if anyone were serious here.

Kudos to Crystal for making it a perfect justification to go shopping!

Give that girl a cigar!!! :tu

SilverFox 01-20-2010 11:29 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
I am with addiction on this one.

However I think of my overall volume in boxes so in my case I think I have 110 to 120 boxes...........where that implies the total # of sticks but I probably only have 60 or so actual boxes :r but another 70 to 80 partials

;s

RevSmoke 01-20-2010 11:36 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 726968)
If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

Obviously, this is a truism. And, were I to say "I just bought 3 boxes of Punch Rotschilds, you'd assume I have 150 cigars."

However, were I to say, "I bought 3 boxes of cigars last month - one Punch Rothschilds, one Oliva O Coronas, and one AF Chateaus." One may or may not assume they are still full. However, I have the boxes - they are in my humidor - and some are more full than others. Do I have boxes of those cigars? Yes! With the cellophane off, most who would look into my coolerdor would assume they are not full boxes.

If people come into my garage, they will see many cigar boxes, but they assume they hold many things other than cigars.

And, when I go to sell cigars, I'd say, "I have a box 11/20 of Oliva O Rothschilds for $XX.00." Or, "I have a full box of Oliva O Rothschilds for $XX.00."

I think we could be straining at grammatical gnats here. Most would define what they mean by "a box of cigars" as they state it.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Blueface 01-20-2010 11:48 AM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
After careful thought, I want to thank all in this thread.
I feel confident I can now face my wife and make a solid argument why I need to buy more cigars.
Clearly, I now understand that I don't have the number of boxes she sees and thinks I have. What I have is half of what she thinks I have, which is twice as many as she cares to see.
So.....I will either be back around soon posting, with an accumulated true number of boxes of cigars as has now been clearly defined OR I will be dead somewhere. If the latter, please note it was my wife that did it.:r

SkinsFanLarry 01-20-2010 12:00 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
If the box only had one cigar in it than it would be a box with cigar!

Blueface 01-20-2010 12:09 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinsFanLarry (Post 727205)
If the box only had one cigar in it than it would be a box with cigar!

I have the next one.

If the box only had TWO cigars in it then it would be a box with cigarS.

So I gather the critical issue here is a box OF cigars or a box WITH cigars.

JaKaacH 01-20-2010 12:10 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
If a mans head had one hair on it would he be bald..?

Blueface 01-20-2010 12:11 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JaKaacH (Post 727211)
If a mans head had one hair on it would he be bald..?

OK,
Would he have hair?:r
It is not a full head!

Blueface 01-20-2010 12:13 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727200)
After careful thought, I want to thank all in this thread.
I feel confident I can now face my wife and make a solid argument why I need to buy more cigars.
Clearly, I now understand that I don't have the number of boxes she sees and thinks I have. What I have is half of what she thinks I have, which is twice as many as she cares to see.
So.....I will either be back around soon posting, with an accumulated true number of boxes of cigars as has now been clearly defined OR I will be dead somewhere. If the latter, please note it was my wife that did it.:r

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

JaKaacH 01-20-2010 12:16 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727217)
My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

I've alway been told to be careful of what you ask for, you might get it.

slickster81 01-20-2010 12:18 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 727217)
My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

I think the humidity would be off....

icehog3 01-20-2010 12:26 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigargal (Post 727108)
I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

Too funny Marianne...but true! :D :r

rizzle 01-20-2010 12:40 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
That's why I only buy glass-top boxes so as I can always tell if they're full or not.

:tu

icehog3 01-20-2010 01:08 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volfan (Post 727261)
I think it is directly after step one when you cut a hole in the box........

:r :r

What about junk?

bobarian 01-20-2010 01:15 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
When do you own a box?

Usually 10-14days after I click "Process Order":D

Blueface 01-20-2010 02:47 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 727279)
When do you own a box?

Usually 10-14days after I click "Process Order":D

Winner!!!:r

dentonparrots 01-20-2010 02:52 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
if you dig a hole, then fill half of it in...do you still have a hole or half a hole?

DMK 01-20-2010 03:15 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
All of you have way too much time on your hands...
Go smoke something will ya....
I own about forty boxes, most of the 'partial', some of them hold something other that cigars... errr... time for a smoke....

marge796 01-20-2010 03:28 PM

Re: When do you own a box?
 
Until I throw it away?


:r


Chris.....


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