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MedicCook 01-05-2010 05:36 PM

*2010 MLB Thread*
 
*2010 MLB Thread*

Spring training is just around the corner and we are in a new year. Lots of trades, free agent signings, and rumors flying around.

The biggest free agent on the market has been signed today. Matt Holliday signs with the Cardinals for a reported 7 year $120M contract. That is $17M a season.

MedicCook 01-05-2010 05:38 PM

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Randy Johnson will be announcing his retirement tonight.

Here are a few of his HOF stats.
5 Cy Young awards, 303 wins, 4,875 strikeouts, and a 3.29 ERA in 4,135.3 career innings. Baseball-Reference puts his career earnings at $175.55MM.

kelmac07 01-05-2010 05:59 PM

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Way top kick off the 2010 thread Ryan!! :tu Go Mets!!

Starscream 01-05-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 708786)
Way top kick off the 2010 thread Ryan!! :tu

:wo :wo

Blueface 01-05-2010 06:10 PM

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Go Yankees!!!

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2010 06:18 PM

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The White Sox have one of their best pitching rotations going into this year. The bullpen should be solid this year as well. Only concern for the sox at this point other than injuries, is run production. Rios and Quentin need to have a good year.

MedicCook 01-05-2010 08:59 PM

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On the Red Sox front it is now pretty much a guarentee that Lowell is gone with the signing of Adrian Beltre for 1 year and $10M. Now they have to find someone who actually wants the guy. Red Sox have also decided to move Ellsbury to LF & Cameron to CF. I will bet that this does not last the entire season and Ellsbury will be back in CF.

kelmac07 01-06-2010 04:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 709059)
On the Red Sox front it is now pretty much a guarentee that Lowell is gone with the signing of Adrian Beltre for 1 year and $10M. Now they have to find someone who actually wants the guy. Red Sox have also decided to move Ellsbury to LF & Cameron to CF. I will bet that this does not last the entire season and Ellsbury will be back in CF.

Agreed...Ellsbury has much younger wheels. While Cameron is a great CF, I believe Jacoby covers more ground.

Montano 01-06-2010 05:45 AM

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I foresee the Giants and Lincecum in the Post Season :)

PeteSB75 01-06-2010 07:13 AM

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Holliday to the cards, eh? heck of a 3-4 shot with him and Pujols.

I think Beltre is a good move for the Sox, and he's not costing them too much money. We already knew Lowell was going one way or another.

St. Lou Stu 01-06-2010 08:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 709388)
Holliday to the cards, eh? heck of a 3-4 shot with him and Pujols.

I think Beltre is a good move for the Sox, and he's not costing them too much money. We already knew Lowell was going one way or another.

:banger:banger Woot!!!
I thought he was going to slip away too.
On the down side of that deal is the fact that precedence is set for Pujols next year when his current contract is up.
Once they pay his new salary, which is sure to top Holliday by far, they will have 0 cash for any pitching which is exactly why they always fade in the playoffs.

GreekGodX 01-06-2010 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 708805)
Go Yankees!!!

You're welcome for Curtis Granderson :td

Tigers could suprise some people if our pitchers produce.

Whynot 01-06-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu (Post 709493)
:banger:banger Woot!!!
I thought he was going to slip away too.
On the down side of that deal is the fact that precedence is set for Pujols next year when his current contract is up.
Once they pay his new salary, which is sure to top Holliday by far, they will have 0 cash for any pitching which is exactly why they always fade in the playoffs.

It was really only 1 pitcher that hurt in the playoffs last year. All the bats went dead at once. I'm looking for a healthy year for Ludwick and for Colby to come on strong. I wish they would set Brendan Ryan and Rasmus loose on the base paths a little more. Hopefully Freese can get his act together too. I am also very curious to see how Craig's bat plays and if Jamie Garcie can hold it together at the big league level.

Bruins Fan 01-06-2010 11:14 AM

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Looks like the Red Sox are playing for the wild card this year?
The best starting rotation in baseball and a beefed up defense.
Get to the playoffs and win with pitching, I would still like to see them get a thumper.:)

BigAsh 01-06-2010 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 709288)
Agreed...Ellsbury has much younger wheels. While Cameron is a great CF, I believe Jacoby covers more ground.

Ellsbury can cover left and half of center....guy runs like the wind....

kelmac07 01-06-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 709717)
Ellsbury can cover left and half of center....guy runs like the wind....

Yet they want to put Cameron in CF??? WTF????

The Poet 01-06-2010 03:13 PM

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Yankees Magic Number is 163. :tu

Blueface 01-06-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 710051)
Yankees Magic Number is 163. :tu

Why?

162 will suffice.:r

icehog3 01-06-2010 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 709502)
You're welcome for Curtis Granderson :td

Tigers could suprise some people if our pitchers produce.

Gosh, I hope so. ;)

MedicCook 01-06-2010 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 710027)
Yet they want to put Cameron in CF??? WTF????

This will be an interesting year for the Red Sox. They definately don't have that same team feel they had back in 2004.

ScottieM 01-06-2010 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 710379)
This will be an interesting year for the Red Sox. They definately don't have that same team feel they had back in 2004.

I hear you. They may have improved there Starting Pitching and Defense but, That Batting Lineup looks pretty tame compared to years past.

MedicCook 01-06-2010 07:36 PM

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They are also very weak behind the plate on defense. Big Papi is a huge question mark, Beltre is a big chance for them at 3rd.

qwerty1500 01-06-2010 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu (Post 709493)
:banger:banger Woot!!!
I thought he was going to slip away too.
On the down side of that deal is the fact that precedence is set for Pujols next year when his current contract is up.
Once they pay his new salary, which is sure to top Holliday by far, they will have 0 cash for any pitching which is exactly why they always fade in the playoffs.

"No pitching" That's the song I seem to sing every year about our Cards. Even with Carp and Wayno, I'm am probably still singing it ... force of habit I guess. This time, I wish I felt more comfortable with the bullpen ... expecially uneasy about our "closer." He seemed to fade at the end of last year and no one seems to be talking much about it. Sure hate to give all those games away in the 9th inning.

(The wife was just reading over my shoulder and said, "Yep that sounds like you.")

But, I have the give the ownership some credit for coughing up some cash. Big change from the final years when the brewery owed em.

MedicCook 01-06-2010 08:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 710572)
"No pitching" That's the song I seem to sing every year about our Cards. Even with Carp and Wayno, I'm am probably still singing it ... force of habit I guess. This time, I wish I felt more comfortable with the bullpen ... expecially uneasy about our "closer." He seemed to fade at the end of last year and no one seems to be talking much about it. Sure hate to give all those games away in the 9th inning.

(The wife was just reading over my shoulder and said, "Yep that sounds like you.")

But, I have the give the ownership some credit for coughing up some cash. Big change from the final years when the brewery owed em.

They are putting up some serious money for a couple players. Hopefully they don't turn into the Marlins and have a fire sale in a year or two.

Whynot 01-06-2010 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 710572)
"No pitching" That's the song I seem to sing every year about our Cards. Even with Carp and Wayno, I'm am probably still singing it ... force of habit I guess. This time, I wish I felt more comfortable with the bullpen ... expecially uneasy about our "closer." He seemed to fade at the end of last year and no one seems to be talking much about it. Sure hate to give all those games away in the 9th inning.

(The wife was just reading over my shoulder and said, "Yep that sounds like you.")

But, I have the give the ownership some credit for coughing up some cash. Big change from the final years when the brewery owed em.

I hope Motte can find some movement on his fastball and work out a decent second pitch. I am exited about a couple of the young arms in the system, especially Samuel.

The Poet 01-07-2010 03:46 PM

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Were I a Card fan - and I don't hate them, believe me - my big worry would not be signing big-time pitching, nor would I be celebrating overmuch the longterm contract to Matt. Consider this: Pujols has two years left on his contract. If Holliday is worth $17M a year, what the hell is Albert worth - and from whence will it come?

St. Lou Stu 01-07-2010 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 710572)
"No pitching" Sure hate to give all those games away in the 9th inning.

I am just tickled to death to know that Izzy is finally gone.... no question.

Sure, he was a good closer.... at some point in time. But, when someone loses it, DO NOT continue to put them on the mound because you paid for them and feel the need to 'get your money's worth':confused:

OK, I know he's been gone for a while.... but It still bothers me.:bh

Whynot 01-07-2010 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 711580)
Were I a Card fan - and I don't hate them, believe me - my big worry would not be signing big-time pitching, nor would I be celebrating overmuch the longterm contract to Matt. Consider this: Pujols has two years left on his contract. If Holliday is worth $17M a year, what the hell is Albert worth - and from whence will it come?

The concensus I see on most boards is that it will take 25-30 a yr to sign Albert. Dewitt has said he will stretch the budget for fim. The Cardinals have also been fairly creative with defered money, althought that will catch up one day. Holiday gets 1.4-1.6m(depending on option) from 2020-2029 from the Cards.

MedicCook 01-09-2010 09:22 AM

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The Mets are talking with John Smoltz.

The Rangers are in negotiations with Vlad.

Bruins Fan 01-09-2010 10:08 AM

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Smoltz, just don't know when to give it up?
Wow much money does he need? He can't get out big league hitters.:td

MedicCook 01-09-2010 10:09 PM

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He pitched pretty good after he left the Red Sox last year.

rack04 01-11-2010 10:10 AM

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Can a Phillies fan chime in on what my Astros' can expect of Brett Myers this season?

Bruins Fan 01-11-2010 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 716026)
Can a Phillies fan chime in on what my Astros' can expect of Brett Myers this season?

Hopefully he wont get drunk and beat up his wife again.
he is not a good human being :td

kelmac07 01-11-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 713737)
The Mets are talking with John Smoltz.


NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! No more over the hill free agents for my beloved Mets. haven't we learned our lesson yet? :td :td :td

rack04 01-11-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 716097)
Hopefully he wont get drunk and beat up his wife again.
he is not a good human being :td

Wow! Thanks for the info. Astros sure signed a real man. :mad:

St. Lou Stu 01-11-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 716358)
Wow! Thanks for the info. Astros sure signed a real man. :mad:

On a happier note:
McGwire finally admitted what we all knew!:D

Starscream 01-11-2010 07:00 PM

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The reds signed Cuban lefty Aroldis Chapman today:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...YiaUkYKFA.cspx

Here's his stats:

Cuban stats:
GS IP BB K ERA
15 54 54 56 4.52
12 81.1 50 100 2.90
16 74 37 79 3.49
20 118.1 62 130 3.18

Starscream 01-11-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu (Post 716367)
On a happier note:
McGwire finally admitted what we all knew!:D

As long as Griffey is never linked to them.

rack04 01-11-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 716663)
As long as Griffey is never linked to them.

Griffey never struck me as a roid user.

St. Lou Stu 01-11-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 716785)
Griffey never struck me as a roid user.

10-4 TX. His swing is fluid power, not ape armed.

MedicCook 01-11-2010 10:00 PM

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Now it is official that Roger Maris is still the single season HR King since McGwire, Sosa & Bonds are all proven roiders.

MedicCook 01-13-2010 10:45 PM

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Just how the Mets want to start 2010 off. Carlos Beltran on the DL for the next 12 weeks after knee surgery.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4824101

kelmac07 01-14-2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 719242)
Just how the Mets want to start 2010 off. Carlos Beltran on the DL for the next 12 weeks after knee surgery.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4824101

Why in the hell would you wait til now to have this surgery and not when the season was over??? He is hiding something. Lovely start to the 2010 season for my beloved Mets. :td

Bruins Fan 01-14-2010 06:12 AM

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How does Omar Minaya keep is job?
He has to be the most incompetent GM in the history of the game, he has to have pictures?

Whynot 01-14-2010 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 719332)
Why in the hell would you wait til now to have this surgery and not when the season was over??? He is hiding something. Lovely start to the 2010 season for my beloved Mets. :td

The Cards went through the same crap with Troy Glaus and his shoulder last year. We got a total of about 130 plate appearances out of him.

St. Lou Stu 01-14-2010 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 719332)
Why in the hell would you wait til now to have this surgery and not when the season was over??? He is hiding something. Lovely start to the 2010 season for my beloved Mets. :td

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whynot (Post 719448)
The Cards went through the same crap with Troy Glaus and his shoulder last year. We got a total of about 130 plate appearances out of him.

Just a guess.... but similar to Glaus (Mr. Mistake).... maybe he was trying physical rehab during the off season in an attempt to avoid surgery?

I know it doesn't make sense, but he coulda skipped the rehab attempt, had the surgery, and been back and in shape by now.

Either way, he's still getting 1.2 bajillion dollars for his DL stint.

MedicCook 01-14-2010 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 719332)
Why in the hell would you wait til now to have this surgery and not when the season was over??? He is hiding something. Lovely start to the 2010 season for my beloved Mets. :td

That is what I thought when I saw the article. Can Bay play CF? :r

PeteSB75 01-14-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 719480)
That is what I thought when I saw the article. Can Bay play CF? :r

Bay could barely play the tiny LF at Fenway. Good luck :ss

VirtualSmitty 01-14-2010 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 719356)
How does Omar Minaya keep is job?
He has to be the most incompetent GM in the history of the game, he has to have pictures?

He is terrible. I like having him at their helm though, ensures there is only ever one good team in NYC :D

kelmac07 01-14-2010 03:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 719356)
How does Omar Minaya keep is job?
He has to be the most incompetent GM in the history of the game, he has to have pictures?

I've been asking this same question for three years now. :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 719480)
That is what I thought when I saw the article. Can Bay play CF? :r

No wheels!!

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 719718)
Bay could barely play the tiny LF at Fenway. Good luck :ss

LOL!! :r


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