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GreekGodX 12-02-2009 02:19 AM

Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4705330

They have agreed to terms and are deciding on a date and venue for a fight. It will be at 147 pounds (welterweight). I cannot wait for this :tu

icehog3 12-02-2009 10:30 AM

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Hope Manny can shut up The Mouth. :2

kydsid 12-02-2009 11:24 AM

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I just hope they do it soon enough I can still pop the TV into the garage and watch the fight with some gars and friends. :tu

Volt 12-02-2009 01:33 PM

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Who?

iRiSh 12-04-2009 10:46 AM

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hopefully it will be better than the last big money bout i watched between david haye and nik valuev, it was piss poor and haye was very very lucky in my opinion, it was his good last round that won it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIrmV7WzWbE

icantbejon 12-04-2009 11:08 AM

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I might actually consider paying money to watch this event. Failing that, I might convince a bunch of friends to come together at our B&M to pay for the fight so we can smoke and watch. That might actually be a better endeavor.

DBall 12-04-2009 12:46 PM

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I really hope this happens.......

Montano 12-04-2009 12:52 PM

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I would love to see Manny beat up on Money !!

ucubed 12-05-2009 02:24 AM

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Pacquiao has the heart and the drive, the will to win...Mayweather has the face of a baby and is a lame boxer, he boxes for points...I hope Pacquiao crushes his face

icehog3 12-06-2009 08:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ucubed (Post 668867)
Pacquiao has the heart and the drive, the will to win...Mayweather has the face of a baby and is a lame boxer, he boxes for points...I hope Pacquiao crushes his face

I hate Pretty Boy Floyd, but he is hardly a "lame boxer". He may not be a brawler or entertaining, but he certainly has serious boxing skilz. :2

pnoon 12-06-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall (Post 668095)
I really hope this happens.......

:tpd:

but anywhere but Vegas. :2

kydsid 12-06-2009 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 670817)
:tpd:

but anywhere but Vegas. :2


You have better odds of winning the lottery.

pnoon 12-06-2009 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 670835)
You have better odds of winning the lottery.

You must have access to information the rest of us don't.

kydsid 12-07-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 670843)
You must have access to information the rest of us don't.

Nope, but what was the last time a big fight was held outside of Vegas? The other alternative is Atlantic City but it has been a while since I have seen a fight there.

icehog3 12-07-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 671166)
Nope, but what was the last time a big fight was held outside of Vegas? The other alternative is Atlantic City but it has been a while since I have seen a fight there.

Big talk of Dallas or New Orleans for this one as an alternative to Vegas.

BORIStheBLADE 12-07-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 665474)
Hope Manny can shut up The Mouth. :2

I agree.

Lets see how long Mayweather can hide behind that shoulder of his.

kydsid 12-07-2009 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 671342)
Big talk of Dallas or New Orleans for this one as an alternative to Vegas.

Here's hopin for Dallas then as I can drive up for the fight!

pnoon 12-07-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 671429)
Here's hopin for Dallas then as I can drive up for the fight!

I sincerely hope you get your wish.

icehog3 12-07-2009 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 671779)
I sincerely hope you get your wish.

:D

kydsid 12-08-2009 07:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 671779)
I sincerely hope you get your wish.

If I do I'll make sure to take pics for the CA boxing crowd. :tu

GreekGodX 12-09-2009 05:49 PM

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no go for Dallas

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=4729058

GreekGodX 12-23-2009 06:41 PM

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Looks like the fight may not happen now. Paq-man won't fight with a olympic style drug testing. One source sited Pacquoiao is a little squemish with giving blood.

white_s2k 12-23-2009 07:57 PM

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Mayweather is being a total sissy, trying to find anyway to get out of this fight. Pac said he would test right after the fight, but he doesn't want to have his blood drawn while he is training.

icehog3 12-23-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by white_s2k (Post 692886)
Mayweather is being a total sissy

Shocking! :r

GreekGodX 12-24-2009 03:57 AM

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For as much as I like Pacquiao, his class, his integrity in the ring and outside. At this point I'm questioning why he won't just say the hell with it and do the olympic style drug testing. The amount of blood they take is miniscule and will not effect oxygen levels in the body.

And being that Mayweather is from Michigan I might have to switch sides :hm

ucla695 12-24-2009 06:56 AM

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I've really been looking forward to this match-up! I hope Pac Man silences Mayweather. :) Either way, it should be a great fight. :bx

icehog3 12-24-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 693208)
And being that Mayweather is from Michigan I might have to switch sides :hm

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...3_partagas.jpg

I would rather fight than switch to Loudmouth Floyd.....and I am from Michigan too. :r

GreekGodX 12-24-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 693392)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...3_partagas.jpg

I would rather fight than switch to Loudmouth Floyd.....and I am from Michigan too. :r

:r I love it.

This whole drug testing argument has gotten me thinking. If you are clean why would you not just submit yourself to the testing. If I was Pacquiao I would say yes just to shut up Floyd on the steriods front, and then use it as extra motivation to beat him harder.

I just hope they come to some agreement and we can have the fight!

icehog3 12-24-2009 08:10 AM

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I want them to fight too, not sure why Manny is so freaked out about giving blood. But if Floyd's camp is being hardline on this issue, then my guess is Floyd either wants more of the purse, or not to fight Manny at all.

rennD 12-24-2009 08:24 AM

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tsk tsk Mayweather and and his mind games. If it happens at the MGM, I can get tickets :)

icehog3 12-24-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rennD (Post 693429)
tsk tsk Mayweather and and his mind games. If it happens at the MGM, I can get tickets :)

Lemme know if you have an extra, Carl. ;)

rennD 12-24-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 693437)
Lemme know if you have an extra, Carl. ;)

I am trying for four right now, two of them being S.H.I.T. herfers, a friend I work with, and myself. I will contact my Host and beg for another one.

NCRadioMan 12-24-2009 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 693208)
For as much as I like Pacquiao, his class, his integrity in the ring and outside. At this point I'm questioning why he won't just say the hell with it and do the olympic style drug testing. The amount of blood they take is miniscule and will not effect oxygen levels in the body.

I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

GreekGodX 12-24-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 693496)
I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

Good point on the tattoo. I brought up the oxygen level in blood because athletes won't donate blood during training or before an even because it decreases RBC count therefore hindering oxygen transport through the body. That would be my only logical explanation as another why he wouldn't want to do the blood testing.

Maybe give Pacquiao a few more million out of the purse to get him to do this. I really want to know why he won't do the testing!

rennD 12-24-2009 10:29 AM

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http://www.fightnews.com/?p=33765

FYI

NCRadioMan 12-24-2009 10:46 AM

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So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”
BS. There are so many ways to beat a urine test, it funny.

It shouldn't matter how many times they are blood tested as they use such a tiny about of blood. Pac-Man's schedule for wanting to give blood is interesting to me. Should be given at any time, not scheduled.

However, I can see why they would want an independent agency to do the testing though.

It's crap like this has, in part, virtually killed boxing, imo.

icehog3 12-24-2009 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rennD (Post 693459)
I am trying for four right now, two of them being S.H.I.T. herfers, a friend I work with, and myself. I will contact my Host and beg for another one.

I don't expect anything, Carl, I know it would be a tough sell, but if you do, I am there. :D The cigars will be on me as well. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 693496)
I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

Greg, why don't you wander over to my neck of the woods and have some cigars with me while you are at it? :D

You make a good point, I just hope it all gets worked out.

Starscream 12-26-2009 07:43 PM

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Not sure which one is a bigger douchebag: Mayweather or Pacquiano. Mayweather has a point, but so does Pacqyiono. Makes us pro-wrestling fans look less ignorant all the time.

icehog3 12-26-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 695571)
Not sure which one is a bigger douchebag: Mayweather or Pacquiano. Mayweather has a point, but so does Pacqyiono. Makes us pro-wrestling fans look less ignorant all the time.

Calling Mayweather a douchebag is an insult to douchebags. ;)

GreekGodX 01-08-2010 02:36 AM

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"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass." -Floyd Mayweather

Pacquiao's promoter is saying the fight is dead. I hope they can get this bs resolved and fight.

kydsid 01-08-2010 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 695648)
Calling Mayweather a douchebag is an insult to douchebags. ;)

How about douchecanoe?

icehog3 01-08-2010 07:21 AM

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So the front row tickets I got on eBay for $50 are no good? :confused:

NCRadioMan 01-08-2010 09:35 AM

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This whole situation is why, in part, that boxing is a dying, farce of a sport.

icehog3 01-08-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 712541)
This whole situation is why, in part, that boxing is a dying, farce of a sport.

I love boxing, but there is too much politicing and grandstanding...just STFU and fight! :bx

icantbejon 01-08-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 693404)
But if Floyd's camp is being hardline on this issue, then my guess is Floyd either wants more of the purse, or not to fight Manny at all.

The third possibility here is that Floyd's camp knows something about Manny.

Manny's reasoning is a little soft as far as I'm concerned. He says it could weaken him before the fight? Well if that's the case, it would for Mayweather too, so no big deal. Afraid of needles??? The guy fights for a living...toughen up. Maybe Manny is/was doping and needs some time to clean it out before the test. For the biggest pay day in boxing history, I can't image this guy will give it up for the weak excuses he's provided so far.

rennD 01-08-2010 11:27 AM

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It's not like Mayweather to play mind games before a fight! Oh wait ... he does EVERY time. He wants to meet a weight shows up as something else. I believe that was the last fight he had.

If these guys want to fight, it will happen. Either way, I am watching the next Manny fight in March/April. Be it Yuri or whoever. :)

marge796 01-08-2010 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 712638)
I love boxing, but there is too much politicing and grandstanding...just STFU and fight! :bx


I totally agree but it's the nature of the beast for the sport. When they do go toe to toe it's going to be a good one!


Chris.....

Noodles 01-08-2010 12:07 PM

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If you think something will affect you, no matter how ridiculous your reasoning is, it will.

Pacquiao attributed his last loss to Erik Morales or JMM because of the blood test he took the day before. He said he felt weak the day of the fight.

PBF thinks he is at a disadvantage because in his mind, Pacquiao is on PED.

icehog3 01-08-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ESPN.com
With his fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. all but off, Manny Pacquiao has instead agreed to fight Joshua Clottey on March 13 at a site to be determined, Pacquiao's camp said Friday

:bs

kydsid 01-09-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 713478)
:bs

:bh Oy Vay


Less :bs and more :bx from these fools.


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