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jbo57 11-09-2009 12:33 PM

Famous Nic 3000
 
I was pleasantly surprised to see that Famous Nic 3000's are in stock. Can't wait to try another.

poriggity 11-09-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Is there any confirmation that the current nic 3000 are the same blend as the ones from a few years ago?
Scott

wayner123 11-09-2009 02:35 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poriggity (Post 638391)
Is there any confirmation that the current nic 3000 are the same blend as the ones from a few years ago?
Scott

How many years ago are you talking about? Did they still have the green label?

Zanaspus 11-09-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Never had "old" ones. I can confidently say that the current ones are easily the best bundle cigar I've smoked and in my top 5 at any price, period.

cabinets 11-09-2009 04:33 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poriggity (Post 638391)
Is there any confirmation that the current nic 3000 are the same blend as the ones from a few years ago?
Scott

Scott, not trying to hijack the thread but I wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your site. First visit. Good stuff. Thx.

weak_link 11-09-2009 04:51 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Great bundled smoke. Don't listen to Mean Darrell when he shows up and tells you they suck. :p

timo 11-09-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I bought a bundle of them. King Kong size. Resting for a while

captain53 11-09-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Bought two of those King Kong Bundles myself, they are RIP till warm weather. Bought some a couple of years ago and they were very good bundle smokes after some age, hope these new ones meet the same standard.

roughrider 11-09-2009 06:03 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I'm also curious about this new batch. Anybody want to do a trade for a 5-pack from this new batch? PM me. Thanks.

poriggity 11-09-2009 09:23 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cabinets (Post 638616)
Scott, not trying to hijack the thread but I wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your site. First visit. Good stuff. Thx.

Thanks bro! I enjoy doing the reviews, and I am glad some people are reading!
Anyway, on to the nic 3000.. The ones I refer to didn't have ANY band at all.
Scott

Cigahs 11-10-2009 06:07 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poriggity (Post 638391)
Is there any confirmation that the current nic 3000 are the same blend as the ones from a few years ago?
Scott

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tobii3 11-10-2009 06:29 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 638424)
How many years ago are you talking about? Did they still have the green label?

Some of us remember the plain, bandless bundles....with just a piece of paper saying Famous Smoke Shop....now that I think about it....I might have a bundle or two....gonna have to look.

kenstogie 11-10-2009 07:35 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I always hear great things about these and they are frequently out of stock but do they ever run specials on the FN 3000?

Zanaspus 11-10-2009 09:35 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 639348)
I always hear great things about these and they are frequently out of stock but do they ever run specials on the FN 3000?

I've seen 5vers on monster, but smoke one, and the normal price will seem like a steal. :2

Totemic 11-10-2009 09:50 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 639348)
I always hear great things about these and they are frequently out of stock but do they ever run specials on the FN 3000?

Rarely.
But at just a hair over $2/cigar, they're very much worth the price. They can easily hold their own against cigars costing 2 to 3 times as much.

It's probably the only reason why I even bother with Famous Smoke anymore.

On a side note: They do seem to have a higher percentage of burn issues than other cigars I smoke. Out of about 2 bundles, I think the majority of them had some skewing of the burn at some point or another (and them being semi-box pressed makes it harder to correct the burn by just rotating them on the ashtray).

borndead1 11-10-2009 10:24 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I smoke A LOT of these, and IMO they have managed to maintain a very good consistency in the line, even between the different sizes.

They do tend to burn funny. Not bad, just kinda crooked. I've never had one tunnel on me though, or even canoe too badly.



I say it in every Nic 3000 thread I post in: Probably my favorite NC, and one of my favorite cigars period. :ss

BlackDog 11-10-2009 10:29 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I bought a bundle a month or so ago, resting peacefully until spring. Love 'em.

kelmac07 11-10-2009 10:31 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 639545)
I bought a bundle a month or so ago, resting peacefully until spring. Love 'em.

These are damn tasty with some age on them. :tu

wayner123 11-10-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poriggity (Post 639006)
Thanks bro! I enjoy doing the reviews, and I am glad some people are reading!
Anyway, on to the nic 3000.. The ones I refer to didn't have ANY band at all.
Scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 639283)
Some of us remember the plain, bandless bundles....with just a piece of paper saying Famous Smoke Shop....now that I think about it....I might have a bundle or two....gonna have to look.

If you were referring to the ones without any bands, those would be the original release, and I would say yes the blend has changed since then. Slightly, but still a change.

These new ones (with the green bands), are still very good. They are about 90% as good as the originals. And with a little aging (3-6 months) bump up a bit closer.

SmokinApe 11-11-2009 05:25 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I have heard that the blend has changed more than once. And when you think about it, how couldn't it have? In any event after smoking the original band-less version and subsequent versions I believe there is a difference. That being said they are a decent stick at a great price BUT IMO they are more a hype stick at this point than anything else. If they really stood up to $6 sticks on a consistent basis someone would put a band or two on them and charge six bucks...

I am not hating on value smokes or bundle smokes at all, please don't take it that way. IMO the market dictates price and people will charge the most people will pay. And IMO the quality will drop on cigars like this to keep them affordable will maximizing profit...

Bubba - NJ 11-11-2009 06:00 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Since I started buying them the price has creeped up every year since the bandless edition first came out . And they are still a great cigar . The only special I ever saw with them was the inclusion of a free bundle of Nic 1000 Churchills . Very plain but my Bro in-law loves them 1000's . If you buy a bundle and don't like them I'm sure they would be easy to sell here . :tu

Tio Gato 11-11-2009 06:08 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
There's a lot of old chatter about this brand on the old Club Stogie now Poofda.com or something like that.:rolleyes:
Go back and search for the rumored history of the original 3000's. Interesting stuff and really good cigars. Can't comment on the latest blend if it's the same or not. At the price point they're worth a shot.:2

Zanaspus 11-11-2009 07:12 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 641353)
I have heard that the blend has changed more than once. And when you think about it, how couldn't it have? In any event after smoking the original band-less version and subsequent versions I believe there is a difference. That being said they are a decent stick at a great price BUT IMO they are more a hype stick at this point than anything else. If they really stood up to $6 sticks on a consistent basis someone would put a band or two on them and charge six bucks...

I am not hating on value smokes or bundle smokes at all, please don't take it that way. IMO the market dictates price and people will charge the most people will pay. And IMO the quality will drop on cigars like this to keep them affordable will maximizing profit...

I have to disagree strongly, given my masters degree in economics. We all see how fast they sell out. Clearly Famous could double the price and unload them, yet they choose not to.

Why is this? Clearly, an altruistic vendor makes no rational sense. No, I feel it is more a free advertising ploy. They get so much free press in the cigar community, it's like free Famous commercials?

Hype stick? If you say so. They sure blow Gurkhas and Graycliffs out of the water imho, so I guess it all depends how you define hype stick. :2

SmokinApe 11-11-2009 07:22 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanaspus (Post 641474)
I have to disagree strongly, given my masters degree in economics. We all see how fast they sell out. Clearly Famous could double the price and unload them, yet they choose not to.

Why is this? Clearly, an altruistic vendor makes no rational sense. No, I feel it is more a free advertising ploy. They get so much free press in the cigar community, it's like free Famous commercials?

Hype stick? If you say so. They sure blow Gurkhas and Graycliffs out of the water imho, so I guess it all depends how you define hype stick. :2

If they haven't doubled the price, how do you know how well they will sell? How do you know they were never re-branded and sold at a different price as a trial or even regular production like many have claimed? Not trying to be confrontational, just asking....

When the description of a cigar reads: "One of the most talked about cigars on the internet...." that equals hype IMO... I could be wrong... And maybe we describe hype differently, which is fine... I have never seen a Gurkha or Graycliff add say that...

neoflex 11-11-2009 07:25 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I don't think they are hype sticks. They have been producing these for many many years and for a while they were always in stock as the demand wasn't that high. They sell out faster and faster simply because people talk and word spreads about how good of a smoke these are and word gets around. As far as bundled cigars I think these are one of the best and priced fairly well for a bundled cigar unlike some other shops that still charge $6-$7 for what esentially is a house brand/bundled cigar. Yes, the taste will change from year to year slightly. It's to be expected as the taste can change slightly with each crop. You will see this even with high dollar smokes and if you happen to pull a 2 year old stick and compare it with a stick that you bought a few days ago they will taste different. Different crops and one has been aged. These used to be a part of my regular rotation a few years ago but than I moved on to other things. I did recently smoke a newer release and I still think they are a great cheap smoke.

SmokinApe 11-11-2009 07:30 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 641484)
They sell out faster and faster simply because people talk and word spreads about how good of a smoke these are and word gets around.

Exacly what I mean by hype stick...

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 641484)
I did recently smoke a newer release and I still think they are a great cheap smoke.

Exactly my point...

Whee 11-11-2009 07:33 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Et Tu Taboo?;)

SeanGAR 11-11-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

neoflex 11-11-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I guess I must have misunderstood what you meant by hype stick. I typically think of smokes like the Nub as being hype sticks where they were all people were talking about and everyone thought they were the best thing since sliced bread but yet they hadn't been released yet which made everyone nuts and start calling and seeking them out release day and also on the far end of the spectrum I consider Opus and Anejos albeit great smokes as hype sticks. Everyone wants them, most enjoy them but they can't be had all the time due to limited release dates controlled by the manufacturer(IMHO to create hype) and the retailers that do get them know this so in turn a bunch then double the mark up because they can and because people will still pay it. I honestly don't think the Nic3000s fit into this category. IMHO, its only the serious cigar smokers who typically know about them and seek them out. The average consumer who typically would help the hype machines for smokes like the Nub, LE Tats, Opus etc don't typically know about the small but very enjoyable bundle/house brands.

bazookajoe 11-11-2009 10:58 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 641541)
The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

The originals were the best. The subsequent blends are good, but don't have the depth of flavor. Easily worth the $2 price but not worth twice that IMO.

MajorCaptSilly 11-12-2009 05:00 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
The torps are on sale at Cigar Monster for the next hour:

http://www.cigarmonster.com/


MCS

wayner123 11-12-2009 06:09 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 641541)
The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

I have seen this rumor time and time again about these cigars. I have had the Series X cigars and IMO they taste very different than the Famous Nic 3000. From my research on the subject I have never seen it confirmed that the 'X' were actually the Famous Nic 3000. If you know different I would greatly appreciate that info. :)

SeanGAR 11-13-2009 06:32 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 641803)
I have seen this rumor time and time again about these cigars. I have had the Series X cigars and IMO they taste very different than the Famous Nic 3000. From my research on the subject I have never seen it confirmed that the 'X' were actually the Famous Nic 3000. If you know different I would greatly appreciate that info. :)

Lots of innuendo without direct statements at the time from people in the industry who should be in the know.

I've had several of them side by side and thought they were exactly the same cigars. A couple of others who tried them thought the same. When you compared them, you compared the first run 3000s with X that were still available in a few places at the time?

The sizes were the same as Olivia had produced for X and they were box pressed, which the X were but which a bundle would typically not. They also came out at the time when Olivia would have been getting rid of them if they didn't plan on just naming them something else.

Proof, no.

wayner123 11-13-2009 06:45 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 643162)
Lots of innuendo without direct statements at the time from people in the industry who should be in the know.

I've had several of them side by side and thought they were exactly the same cigars. A couple of others who tried them thought the same. When you compared them, you compared the first run 3000s with X that were still available in a few places at the time?

The sizes were the same as Olivia had produced for X and they were box pressed, which the X were but which a bundle would typically not. They also came out at the time when Olivia would have been getting rid of them if they didn't plan on just naming them something else.

Proof, no.

I went to researching and came to the same conclusion really. No real confirmation if they are the same cigar. I did however find that the Series X were made for Eddie Ortega (United Tobacco) in the Oliva factory. The same Series X which Fuente later sued Eddie for.

I have compared the X series to Original Release 3000's in each vitola. I still have some X series. I have done vertical tastings and they taste very different to me. Maybe it's aging, or different crop from different fields, who knows? But they tasted different to me. Lookwise, they are similar, but a lot of different cigars look the same.

Zanaspus 11-13-2009 08:26 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Shrug. I just know I like em a lot.

tobii3 11-13-2009 09:33 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
as for the ""most talked about on the internet"" review...

Famous was OVERRUN with Internet and phone call orders for the Nic3K

What was it caused by? the Internet Cigar Boards. PERIOD.

No advertising can compete with word of mouth.

alfbacca 11-13-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Got a 5 pack of the torpedo size about a month ago. Looking forward to trying them in the next coming months. I'm assuming these get better with age, but they can't be all that bad fresh right?

Big Ben 11-15-2009 08:39 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 643173)
I went to researching and came to the same conclusion really. No real confirmation if they are the same cigar. I did however find that the Series X were made for Eddie Ortega (United Tobacco) in the Oliva factory. The same Series X which Fuente later sued Eddie for.

I have compared the X series to Original Release 3000's in each vitola. I still have some X series. I have done vertical tastings and they taste very different to me. Maybe it's aging, or different crop from different fields, who knows? But they tasted different to me. Lookwise, they are similar, but a lot of different cigars look the same.

I might be totally confused, but I always thought the OR Nic 3000 were the unbanded Oliva Masterblend I.

fsjonsey 11-20-2009 11:20 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Nic3K's have been one of my absolute favorite smokes for a long time now. they're consistant, the construction is always top notch, not to mention they taste great!

Freelee711 11-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I just bought 20 of these so here's hoping they're great. :D

Zanaspus 11-30-2009 06:15 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freelee711 (Post 662779)
I just bought 20 of these so here's hoping they're great. :D

I can reassure you, if your tastes are remotely close to mine, you will not be disappointed.

burns 08-02-2010 07:52 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
The Toros are on cigarmonster now for $36.98 w/ free shipping. Hurry! They should be on mashup tonight. I'm going to give them a shot.

kelmac07 08-02-2010 07:57 AM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Just grabbed a bundle...these are really good with some age on them. :tu :tu

captain53 08-02-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
Smoked one this weekend with 8 months on it, coming along very nice, definitely a long term investment though. Wonder if the current ones are the same maker/blend as the ones they got in last year around early November.

burns 08-03-2010 12:52 PM

Re: Famous Nic 3000
 
I know I should have waited, but they came in today and I let one rip. I am def not disappointed. I'll let the rest sit awhile though.

If anyone has tried the Alec Bradley "Supervisor Selection", how do these compare in terms of bang for your buck?

Kreth 08-03-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burns (Post 939701)
If anyone has tried the Alec Bradley "Supervisor Selection", how do these compare in terms of bang for your buck?

I like them, supposedly they're Maxx seconds. Good construction, nice burn and flavors. Gave a few out on the golf course with no complaints.
Famous Nic Habanos are tasty, too.
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