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College Hoops Thread '09-'10
Well, since nobody else seems to want to step up and start this, I guess I shall. Yeah, I know a lot of you don't pay any attention to it until March, but there has to be a few fanatics like me out there. So I'll kick it off by discussing my team, the defending national champion UNC Tar Heels.
The Heels began the unofficial defense of their title last night with a close victory over perennial in-state basketball powerhouse, Belmont Abbey (well, they are close to Davidson, at least geographically). The final was a nail-biting 107-59. Monday they kick it off for real with a Coaches For Cancer game against another big-time program, Florida International, led by their new coach, Hall Of Fame @$$hole Isaiah Thomas. The Tar Heels are ranked pre-season anywhere from #2 (likely too high) to #7 (which may also be optimistic), depending on the poll, yet no matter what the perception this will prove to be an interesting year for them. Though many seem to concentrate upon their loss of Tyler Hansbrough, the challenge for this team will be in replacing the play outside and not down low. With skilled players such as Ed Davis, Deon Thompson, and Tyler Zeller, as well as the addition of frosh talent in John Henson and the Wear twins, they have one of the better frontcourts in the nation - still. However, the college game is won or lost by guards, and this will be the question. Larry Drew II did not show much last season (to be fair, playing behind Ty Lawson and Bobby Frasor he did not get much chance), yet he does have McDonald All-American tools at his disposal, particularly as a pass-first option. Plus, freshman Dexter Strickland showed the ability to score big at the high-school level (and prep hoops here in Joisey ain't no cakewalk), but no one knows how that transition to the next level will work for him. The perimeter defense should improve this season with the return of Marcus Ginyard, though he is not the offensive threat that Danny Green proved to be - some nights, anyway. All-in-all, it will be a taxing season for Roy Williams down in Chapel Hill. A return to the Final Four is not out of the question, but I would not buy my tickets yet. The Tar Heels may develop into a 30-win team, but are a turned ankle away from a 20-win one. OK, now it's your turn - tell us about YOUR boys! |
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According to the NY Post, UNC is slightly favored over FIU tonight, with the line at 31 1/2. But who believes the Post?
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Last night # 6 UNC took care of Zeke's squad 88-72, in a game that was not as close as the final. The lead was up to 25 about 5 minutes into the 2nd half, and if the young Heels had not had 26 stinkin' TOs they would have chased the Golden Panthers out of the Dean Dome, out of town, and halfway out of state.
In other action, # 13 Cal edged by Murray St. 75-70, #16 Ohio St. spanked Alcorn St. 100-60, and Whinin' Jim Boeheim netted his 800th career win over Albany 75-43. No games scheduled tonight, but tomorrow all those winners save OSU play again, and again against what should be gimmes. |
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As with the early-season rankings, there are no meaningful games this time of year. But games of note tonight include:
# 6 UNC vs. N.C. Central # 13 Cal vs. Detroit Syracuse vs. Robert Morris All these games are in the "varsity" gyms. :r |
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Scores from the meaningless games last night:
# 6 UNC 89 , N.C. Central 42 = Tar Heels went on a 21-0 run in the first half, turning a 19-17 lead into a 51-20 one at the break. # 13 Cal 95 , Detroit 61 = Though not the squeaker their first game became, this one was too close for Bear comfort, with the Titans down just 40-36 early in the second half. Note of interest : Detroit has not won a road opener since 1977, against Toledo. Their coach for that victory? The legendary Dick Vitale. Syracuse 100 , Robert Morris 60 = Andy Rautins scores 22 on 7 of 10 from three, and doubtless is still bragging about it at the top of his lungs. Games of interest, albeit dubious, tonight: # 16 Ohio State vs. James Madison N.C. State vs. Georgia St. |
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Last night scores:
# 16 Ohio St. 72 , James Madison 44 N.C. State 69 , Georgia St. 52 There are 'way to many games tonight, the first night of full action, plus I've too much work today, so here are the big boys (against the JVs) : # 1 Kansas vs. Hofstra # 2 Mich. St. vs. Fla. Gulf Coast # 4 Kentucky vs. Morehead St. # 5 Villilnova vs. Fair. Dickinson # 7 Purdue vs. CSU Northridge # 9 Duke vs. N.C. Greensboro # 10 Tennessee vs. Austin Peay # 12 U.Conn. vs. William & Mary # 14 Washington vs. Wright St. # 18 Miss. St. vs. Rider # 20 Georgetown vs. Tulane # 23 Illinois vs. SIU Edwardsvillle (who???) # 24 Clemson vs. Presbyterian # 25 Minnesota vs. Tenn. Tech. If I have missed anybody, well, who cares? :r |
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As expected, most of the games noted above turned into blow-outs for the ranked teams, with a few exceptions:
# 4 Kentucky should have dominated Morehead State, yet "only" won 75-59. The 59 allowed is not too bad, but for a Calipari offense to score a mere 75 points against that type of competition should be disturbing to Wildcat fans. # 12 U. Conn edged William & Mary 75-66. If fans wondered about Calhoun's health before the game, you can imagine how he might feel today. # 14 Washington had an even closer squeaker against Wright State, escaping with a 74-69 victory. If this is any indication, looks as though the Pac-10 shall again be also-rans. There was one upset last night however: # 18 Mississippi State raised the banner for their SEC Championship before the game, and that was the final highpoint of their evening as they fell to mighty mighty Rider 88-74. It appears that the SEC's transition to a football conference has taken one more step. :D The games of potential national interest this weekend include: Saturday: # 11 Butler vs. Davidson # 14 Washington vs. Belmont # 15 Michigan vs. Northern Michigan # 17 Oklahoma vs. Mount St. Mary's # 21 Dayton vs. Creighton # 22 Georgia Tech vs. Florida A&M Sunday: # 3 Texas vs. UC Irvine # 6 UNC vs. Valparaiso # 8 West Virginia vs. Loyola (MD) # 14 Washington vs. Portland St. |
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Can't wait to see the Horns tomorrow, should be a solid team this year
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Speaking of Texas, the # 3 team defeated UC-Irvine 89-42 Sunday. It was the expected decisive win, but when you pit a Longhorn against an Anteater, what else would you expect? All the other ranked teams had their "predetermined" lopsided victories this weekend also, with the exception of: On Saturday, # 11 Butler fought back against a determined Davidson team and won 73-62 in a game they seemed destined to lose for about 3/4ths of the contest. The same was true for # 21 Dayton, although they held a slim margin for much of the time, and held on to beat Creighton 90-80. On Sunday, my # 6 UNC Tar Heels again showed their young lack of focus, and blew most of a 24-point 2nd-half lead before finally closing out Valparaiso 88-77, mainly due to 14 turnovers AGAINST A ZONE DEFENSE! Furthermore, remember that the only Drew on the court was Larry, and he played for the home team. Unacceptable :mad:, especially when you consider that they will face, in quick succession, Ohio State, Kentucky, Michigan State, and Texas. Finally, it seems the game to have seen this weekend was the epic struggle of the brainiacs between Harvard and William & Mary, with the Crimson taking a 87-85 victory in 3 OTs. Ohhhhh, baby! |
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Games tonight of ranked teams :
# 4 Kentucky vs. Miami (OH) # 5 Villanova vs. Pennsylvania # 9 Duke vs. Coastal Carolina # 12 U. Conn. vs. Colgate # 25 Minnesota vs. Stephen F. Austin Don't expect any of these games to actually be games, though the 'Nova/Penn matchup is interesting - for those who know the history of Philly ball, anyway. |
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Well, that Big Five matchup last night was not so interesting, with 'Nova stomping Penn 103-65. The other games were no-contest either, save that U.Conn "edged" Colgate - Colgate, fer kris'sakes! - 77 to 63. OH YEAH, and the UK fans got a bit of a scare too, when lowly Miami (OH) tied the Wildcats at 70-all with 6 seconds left. But then John Wall - you know, that freshman who almost landed Calipari on probation before he'd even earned one cent of that ludicrous contract Kentucky gave to him - well, Wall takes the inbound, blows past his coach before he can even decide on calling a time-out or not, then hits the game-winner with half-a-tick left. Hmmmm, lessee - UK struggles a bit with Morehead State, then dodges a bullet against Miami (OH). You think they're a little nervous in Lexington, brothers?
Another full slate of games today - in fact, # 22 Clemson has already beaten Liberty 79-39. I guess there is a limit to what fundamentalist prayer can accomplish. Other games to follow: # 1 Kansas vs. Memphis - if the aforementioned Calipari had not gutted this team when he left for bluegrass greener pastures, this could have been a show. # 2 Michigan State vs. Gonzaga - and if the Zags were as good as they brag they are, this would be the Spartans first defeat. # 9 Duke vs. UNC . . . . . . . . . . . . Charlotte :D # 10 Tenn vs. UNC . . . . . . . . . . . Asheville :r # 12 U. Conn vs. Hofstra # 17 Oklahoma vs. LA Monroe # 19 Georgetown vs. Temple - back in the day of the two Johns, Thompson and Chaney, this was one hell of a good game, each and every time. # 20 Louisville vs. Arkansas - don't know why Pitino's starting his season so late, unless he's just been too busy in court to be on court. # 23 Illinois vs. Northern Illinois # 25 Maryland vs. Fairfield. There might be a few actual contests in there, there - so there. |
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I've been in the risers for all the UNC games this year so far - the team is looking pretty fantastic! Glad to see this thread! College hoops is what keeps me going through the winter!
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I don't think I am going to be able to follow my classmates to Detroit again this year (or Indianapolis, as the case may be), but I think we will hold on till Elite eight. Anyway I can't WAIT until January and the beginning of ACC play - its like Christmas comes twice a year in North Carolina!
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I just noticed this one - Cal State Fullerton upset UCLA 68-65 in double-OT last night, and in Pauley to boot. The Bruins shot a sickly 31% from the floor, were 5 of 29 from 3-point range, went 8 of 17 from the charity stripe, and were 3 of 17 in both overtimes.
Just one more reason to be glad that John Wooden is still alive - if he were not, he'd be spinning for sure. |
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Did I tell you above that Georgetown/Temple used to be fun? Guess it still is, as the Hoyas just eked out a win in what had to be a painful game to watch. The final is 46-45, with both teams shooting like blind men with bent barrels. Hoyas shot .357 overall and .167 from deep, while the Owls managed only .310 and .125. Georgetown won it with a late lay-up, but actually won at the line, besting Temple there by going 13 of 19 as opposed to Owls' 6 of 13. Both teams are historically defensive-minded, but this is just sad - neither is that damn good on D.
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KU's first real test tonight against a Memphis team that has gone through a lot in the off season. Assuming the youth is overcome by the 12 deep rotation it should be a good year.
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Aside from the early games already reported on above, all the other ranked teams blew their foes away, or pretty much so, with the exception of: # 12 U. Conn 76 - Hofstra 67 = Hofstra is a decent mid-major, but c'mon! # 17 Oklahoma 72 - LA Monroe 61 = Do you get the feeling that the Sooners are still looking around for Blake Griffin? There is only one game tonight involving a ranked team, and that is: # 3 Texas vs. Carolina . . . . . . . . Western |
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Last night # 3 Texas took care of Western Carolina 73-41, which reminds me of my earlier comment regarding Kentucky - the 41 allowed is fine, but the 73 scored is pretty weak. Also - and I don't know how I missed this - # 11 Butler beat Northwestern 67-54, which is also not a powerful spanking.
Already today, in the Bobby Knight Memorial Chair-Tossing Tipoff in Puerto Rico, # 18 Dayton slipped past # 21 Georgia Tech 63-59, while # 5 Villanova presently trails Cinderella George Mason early. Later we can look forward to: # 1 Kansas vs. Central Arkansas # 4 Kentucky vs. Sam Houston State # 6 UNC vs. # 15 Ohio St. - It's the first real test for both teams, and one will fall in MSG this evening. # 24 Minnesota vs. Utat Valley - Can anybody tell me, who the hell is Utah Valley? Enjoy the games, since I won't know if I will until about 11:30, after the UNC/OSU final. |
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Keep your eyes on Josh Pastner the coach of Memphis. He may be a real power in a couple of years. Hopefully we can get him back to Arizona some day. He got his BS, MS and PHD in 5 years while playing basketball at Arizona. He sleeps like 2 hours a night and studies game film while he sleeps:D
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You said it brother! i LIKED WHAT jOSH pASTNER DID...DANGIT. I liked what
Josh Pastner did by going for the jugular at the end and having his hot shooter take the three at the end of the game. He could have tried for the tie, or let his team coast to a loss against the #1 team in the country. Instead they go for the win, and the shot bounces off the back iron. Better than hitting the front iron or dropping like an air ball. Showed a little gas in the tank, and he takes a 50-50 shot at BEATING the number 1 team with a team that by all rights should have been a huge work in progress. Don't think it doesn't give me alot of satisfaction to see Calipari under-achieve even after taking all of the 2009 Memphis draft class with him to UK. Haha, then Pastner brings in yet another top draft class to Memphis and fields a team good enough to beat KU. Maybe it was Pastner's recruiting power that was putting Cal at the top every year? Still you can't take anything from Cal's ability to close the deal at the end. But F Cal! UK can have his soiled a$$. Talk about Teflon Dons. has TWO final four appearances vacated and still comes out smelling like a rose. |
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Sure it can spoil a good run for a team that is looking for perfection, But getting into the season after endless practice can be a little like me heading for the bathroom for a shower every morning at 5:30 with one eye open, navigating by feel. |
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Take a look at Josh's first recruiting class:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75...id=440&yr=2010 Not bad for a first year head coach. |
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With 3:30 left, 'Nova/GMU is a one-point game. Maybe you guys should put this up online.
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Well, Villanova pretty much could not hit a three all game - until the last half-minute, when they hit 2 in quick succession to steal a win from George Mason 69-68. And this is the #5 team in the nation, and the class of the Big Mouth Conference? Gimme a break.
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Hopefully the game against Memphis was a wakeup call for the young Jayhawks at least they have a few in a row here before the run up against UCLA in December.
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Only three of the evening games last night held much interest, as the others were the anticipated blowouts. The one "upset", if you can call it that, was Syracuse spanking #13 California 95-73, but as weak as the Pac-10 appears early this season it is not too big a shocker. More of a shock was the final in the #4 Kentucky/Sam Houston State game - 102 to 92. Whereas in their games against Morehead State and Miami (OH), where the question was why did the Wildcats score so little, the question here is how could they let Sam Houston score so much? Though the contest was not as close as the score, this has to be disturbing to UK faithful. Also, Roy Williams is doubtless upset at the sloppy end-game play his team has shown, for although #6 UNC defeated #15 Ohio State 77-73, this was a game that was not nearly this tight until the end, when some late turnovers and missed free-throws, coupled with OSU finally hitting some treys (4 in the final 2 minutes), cut what had been a safe double-digit lead down to a slim two with 11 ticks left. Hey, I started out by saying my Heels are young, and this will be a steep learning curve for them - which gets steeper come December. Well, we'll see if they learned any lessons, when they grip the orange against The Orange in MSG tonight.
Other games this evening: # 2 Mich. St. vs. Toledo # 7 Purdue vs. South Dakota St. # 10 Tenn. vs. East Carolina # 13 Cal vs. Ohio St. - the consolation game in The Garden # 14 Washington vs. San Jose St. # 16 Michigan vs. Houston Baptist # 22 Clemson vs. N.C. Greensboro # 25 Maryland vs. New Hampshire |
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Didn't Syracuse lose to a D2 school in exhibition? That's what caught my eye on them beating Cal.
Either Sam Houston was shooting lights out or they are going to surprise a few people this year. |
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Big ACC and UNC fan here. Go heels!
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# 21 Ga. Tech trails George Mason early down in San Juan, but it is early, so . . . . Updates to follow.
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The Ramblin' Wreck takes a 27-19 lead into halftime against GM - and The Cars are on my radio. :r
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Looks like Tech finally woke up - with 15 minutes left, it's now 43-26.
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Well, George tried to make a game of it, but George-yah Tek holds on for a 70-62 victory.
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The big game last night was the "upset" of #6 UNC by the unranked Syracuse Orangemen in MSG, with a final of 87-71. The Tar Heels took a slim lead into halftime, but missed their first 13 shots of the second and turned the ball over 6 times to boot. Meanwhile the Orange could not miss, going 10 of 14 from inside and out, and went on a 22-1 run to put the game out of reach. Carolina did close to 68-60 with 7 minutes left, yet that was as close as they could get. This loss was no shock to either Roy Williams or to me - with 6 of their 9 key players either freshmen or sophmores, the Heels have not yet jelled as a team. Hopefully this spanking will focus them, and they will jell soon - come December, things really start to get rough.
Other scores of big games include: # 2 Mich. St. 75 - Toledo 62 = A good win, but not impressive. # 5 Villanova 71 - # 18 Dayton 65 = A good win, period. # 7 Purdue 74 - South Dakota St. 63 = Meh. # 10 Tenn. 105 - East Carolina 66 = Meh, but for different reasons. # 15 Ohio St. 76 - # 13 California 70 = I'd be more impressed were Cal not 2-2, thus perhaps over-rated. # 14 Washington 80 - San Jose St. 70 = Meh number three. # 22 Clemson 89 - N.C. Greensboro 67 = Meh'k that four. # 25 Maryland 82 - New Hampshire 55 = About what you'd expect, really. Today's top games include: # 4 Kentucky vs. Rider = Already underway, and tied very very early. # 9 Duke vs. Radford # 11 Butler vs. Evansville # 17 Oklahoma vs. Virginia Commonwealth # 19 Georgetown vs. Savannah St. = Also underway, and close after 6 1/2. # 20 Louisville vs. East Tennessee St. # 23 Illinois vs. Presbyterian Why not tune in for a few minutes today? College ball does NOT start in March! |
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Both UK and the Hoyas have taken control of these games - as if this is a surprise.
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Dook stomping Radford at the half - another shocker.
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Weekend update, with updated AP rankings:
Aside from the blow-outs noted above (FYI, new # 7 Dook edged Radford 104-67), and ignoring the other expected whippings, scores from Saturday include: # 12 Butler 64 - Evansville 60 = I'm not impressed. # 15 Louisville 69 - E. Tenn. St. 56 = Ditto. # 18 Georgetown 63 - Savannah St. 44 = The Hoyas have always been more a D program than an O one, but that's just sad. The real upset, and a true one too, was how Virginia Commonwealth spoiled the return of their old coach Jeff Capel to Richmond by stomping the (now) # 25 Oklahoma Sooners 82-69, and it wasn't that close. OU was the first ranked team to visit VCU's new digs since it opened 10 years ago, and they made it a successful trip - for the home team. On Sunday: Kansas State knocked previous # 18 Dayton out of the Top 25 altogether by winning their contest 83-75. And remember that KSU no longer has that kid - what's his name again? - you know, the guy who was supposed to come into the NBA and own it from Day One? No, not Odum, that other one, and not Griffin either - uh, um, Beasley? Something like that. Whatever happened to him anyway? As for the other scores: # 2 Michigan St. 90 - Valpo 60 # 4 Villanova 79 - Ole Miss 67 # 6 Purdue 85 - St. Joe's 60 # 9 Tenn. 57 - DePaul 53 = This was maybe a fun game to watch. # 16 Louisville 90 - Morgan St. 81 = This was maybe not, especially for Cardinal fans. # 21 Ga. Tech 85 - Boston U. 67 Games tonight of potential national interest are: # 3 Texas vs. Iowa # 6 Purdue vs. # 9 Tennessee = One of two possible good matchups. # 11 UNC vs. Gardner-Webb = Think my Heels can bounce back against them? # 16 Louisville vs. Appalachian St. # 19 Clemson vs. Winthrop # 21 Maryland vs. the Hawaiian Delilah, Chaminade (some of you old farts will understand that one). The other good game tonight involves unranked St. Joe's vs. DePaul. These are two nice programs with a long basketball history, and could become a war. Enjoy. |
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If anybody cares, Colorado and Gonzaga are tied at 67 with 3 1/2 left.
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'Zags on the line, with a 2-point lead and four ticks left. If they hold on, they won this from the line.
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Gonzaga goes 27-37 from the line; Colorado 13-18: 'Zags win 76-72.
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Go Boilermakers
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Decided to not go to the game tonight. Not exactly sure why... Definitely be watching the heels take down Gardner-Webb tonight though!
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Both # 6 Purdue and # 11 UNC won last night, guys - but you should know that already. The Tar Heels had an easy time with Gardner-Webb, winning 93-72, though they still had too many turnovers and missed too many from the stripe. The Boilermakers had a tougher time with # 9 Tennessee, edging them 73-72, so I called that one above - a good matchup. All the other games involving ranked teams we 20+ point blowouts. And FYI that other good game I predicted was a fun one too, as unranked opponents DePaul and St. Joe's duked it out all evening. The game was tied @ 49 under 3 minutes, and DePaul took the lead for good with 50 ticks left, holding on for a 58-51 victory.
Already today # 24 Vanderbilt has beaten Chaminade 68-41, while # 5 Kentucky has a slim early lead on Cleveland State. The other "big" games tonight: # 3 Texas vs. Pittsburgh - This could easily be the best game. # 8 West Virginia vs. The Citadel # 10 Syracuse vs. Cornell # 17 Ohio St. vs. Lipscomb - This could easily be the worst. # 20 Illinois vs. Wofford - Or this. # 21 Maryland vs. Cincinnati - Hmmmmmm. Can the Bearcats sneak up on the Terrapins? # 23 Notre Dame vs. Kennesaw St. As always, enjoy the games. |
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