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spectrrr 10-29-2009 07:42 PM

Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of my Samsung Saga... and really I'm just getting tired of Windows Mobile being 3 steps behind the curve. I'm taking a seriously hard look at the DROID and thinking of jumping ship to google. anyone else doing the same?

Mr.Maduro 10-29-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I'm a loyal verizon wireless customer (although I hate their customer service) so I'm very interested in the Droid. I'm due for an upgrade so I'm waiting to see when these hit the shelves to see what the reviews are.

If anyone has any pre-release reviews, please post the links here. That would be awesome.

EDIT: Droid commercial came on 2 seconds after I posted.

AD720 10-29-2009 07:55 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I would get it in heartbeat if I didn't just upgrade to an Omnia in July. I have to wait until July but I'll be getting an Android phone. Maybe not the Driod, but definitely one with the Google OS>.

leasingthisspace 10-29-2009 08:06 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I have been dealing with going onto the web on my LG for the last 2 weeks. I know there is something better out there.

No upgrade til Dec. so until then all searching is done through Google cuz it is kinda like the Google web browser. (I am guessing cuz I haven't used the Google OS yet.)
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cle_smoker 10-29-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 623407)
If anyone has any pre-release reviews, please post the links here. That would be awesome.

I read this one today on Yahoo.

Link

Mr.Maduro 10-29-2009 08:16 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cle_smoker (Post 623431)
I read this one today on Yahoo.

Link

Thanks. I'm sold.

spectrrr 10-29-2009 08:17 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
here's some more relevant pre-release reviews. I would be inclined to trust link #2 the most, he's proved reliable in his opinions in the past, without becoming a fanboy to a cause.

1. http://www.pcworld.com/article/17451...te_primer.html

2. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...droid-preview/

3. http://gizmodo.com/5391735/motorola-...er-6th-for-200

MajorCaptSilly 10-29-2009 08:18 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
My son has the T-Mobile G1. The software is buggy and the hardware is clunky.

MCS

Scottastic 10-29-2009 08:20 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
As an AT&T employee with an iPhone, a Google G1, a Blackberry 8900 and a Samsung Jack, I can tell you that the one phone my company doesn't carry (Google G1) is my favorite by far.

The droid intrigues me, but there are a lot of Android phones coming out. Might be worth holding out a little.

Edit: in response to MCS, the newest update (1.6) fixes a lot of issues. Also, I don't know how much your son knows about homebrew, but have him try out CyanogenMod.

kgoings 10-29-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
here you go

spectrrr 10-29-2009 08:29 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottastic (Post 623446)
The droid intrigues me, but there are a lot of Android phones coming out. Might be worth holding out a little.

Very true. From what I'm reading however, the first "Droid" will be the only one for a while that has a physical keyboard, and thats one feature i'm not willing to give up...

Darrell 10-29-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I am most def. getting this phone. I am eligible for an upgrade on 12/16. On 12/16 I will be in line for my Droid. :D

Titan410 10-30-2009 06:02 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I love VZW coverage. Hate the phones. They always handicap their phones for some reason. From what I've read the Droid will not be typically handicapped so I will be taking a hard look at it.
Oh yeah, and I'm a Google fanatic (Gmail, Docs, Calendar, etc.) so its probably going to be a no brainer.

Starscream 10-30-2009 06:14 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
These are not the droids you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.




:)

coastietech 10-30-2009 07:25 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Just can't see myself jumping ship from BB... Phone looks great but it's not a BB. :r

shilala 10-30-2009 07:36 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
The possibilities are endless with this phone.
VZW can charge you ten bucks a month to tell you where your phone is, $10 a month to tell you where your kids are, $30 a month for data, $20 a month for texting, $.99 a kb for every time you push the wrong button, and still have room for 3000 more pages of charge up options.
Go Verizon!!! ;)

kgoings 10-30-2009 08:43 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 623829)
These are not the droids you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.




:)


:r:r:r


Yes shilala we know you hate Verizon...and NO other cell carried charges you extras for stuff like that. :rolleyes:

PeteSB75 10-30-2009 08:49 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I've had my G1 for just over a year now and I love it. Between the touch screen and keyboard and the massive number of apps available, I have everything I need.

So, not looking at the droid, being on the wrong network and all, but fully supporting other Android/Google phones.

spectrrr 10-30-2009 10:45 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 623965)
Yes shilala we know you hate Verizon...and NO other cell carried charges you extras for stuff like that. :rolleyes:

YEP... they are pricey bastards. BUT, no other cell carrier just F*in WORKS nearly any place you go..... :2

BORIStheBLADE 10-30-2009 10:53 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I have been watching the Droid too.

Some info I found today on Lifehacker.com

http://i33.tinypic.com/14341za.png

Mugen910 10-30-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 623455)
Very true. From what I'm reading however, the first "Droid" will be the only one for a while that has a physical keyboard, and thats one feature i'm not willing to give up...

My Tmobile G-1 rocks!! :banger

I like that it's an open software source and when someone makes an application you don't always have to pay for it in the market. As soon as Android came out i jumped from windows quickly. It just wasn't for me.

Resipsa 10-30-2009 11:26 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Interesting phone, but If the keyboard is as crippled as the early review
indicate this could be an enormous clunker. I'll hold my praise until I
see how the keyboard is

spectrrr 10-30-2009 11:33 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 624211)
Interesting phone, but If the keyboard is as crippled as the early review
indicate this could be an enormous clunker. I'll hold my praise until I
see how the keyboard is

yeah... lets just say I'm not preordering it, I'm holding my $ until the local verizon store gets one I can spend 30 minutes playing with.

kgoings 10-30-2009 11:58 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 624156)
YEP... they are pricey bastards. BUT, no other cell carrier just F*in WORKS nearly any place you go..... :2

:tpd:

Exactly

ucla695 10-31-2009 09:36 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I would have switched to AT&T for the iPhone a long time ago if it weren't for their coverage. That said, I'm sticking with Verizon and can't wait to check out the Droid. Thanks for the review links!!

GreekGodX 10-31-2009 09:50 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I'm hoping the droid turns out to being something that can rival the iphone. I want the iphone but not willing to switch from Verizon to AT&T due to coverage issues (I've had AT&T, and it doesn't compare to VZW in my area).

I'm going to wait to see how this phone does after a few months in the market. Might just wait for the Storm2 and stay with blackberry for another 2 years..

Titan410 10-31-2009 10:16 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ucla695 (Post 625525)
I would have switched to AT&T for the iPhone a long time ago if it weren't for their coverage. That said, I'm sticking with Verizon and can't wait to check out the Droid. Thanks for the review links!!

There are alot of us out there.

mikeyj23 10-31-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
preordering at best buy today!
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madwilliamflint 11-05-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
(disclaimer: I've been a programmer for 30+ years, so take my geekiness into account.)

I have the Android G1 via T-Mobile. I've had a couple iPhones before and I love this thing. It's a LITTLE bit too slow but that's what I get for getting the first generation.

The lock-in of the iPhone was driving me crazy. All apps must come from their store. The functionality of just about everything was nice on it...except it's behavior as a phone.

The G1 is a very nice phone with buckets of applications available from it's "market" and elsewhere. I have a second web browser, a replacement for the contact management system, and all kinds of mindless time wasters. Not because the phone needed it but because the options are there to play with.

I'm very very happy with it.

Now, if I were gainfully employed I would probably jump on the Verizon "Droid" in a heartbeat. It's got the hardware keyboard (a MUST for ham-fisted people like me) in addition to the touch screen. Plus it's a faster thingie.

The Barnes & Noble e-book reader is based on the same software OS (which is what "Android" actually refers to) as are a number of upcoming devices.

Unfortunately, no, I don't get kickbacks from T-Mobile, Google, Verizon or Motorola.

Feel free to bug me if I can help.

o/

- M

The Poet 11-05-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 623829)
These are not the droids you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.




:)

Uncle Owen, this R2 unit has a bad motivator.

RJK18 11-05-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 623979)
I've had my G1 for just over a year now and I love it. Between the touch screen and keyboard and the massive number of apps available, I have everything I need.

So, not looking at the droid, being on the wrong network and all, but fully supporting other Android/Google phones.

:tpd: But the camara is a P.O.S.

spectrrr 11-06-2009 10:32 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
ahhh.... today was FUN. Sauntered over to the Verizon store and did the obligatory touch and feel on both the Moto Droid and the HTC Eris. I'm extremely picky about my phones, so here's my thoughts as an android newbie. Overall, I just wish the two of them would have a child....

Droid Pros:
  • Hardware keyboard.
  • Fast CPU
  • Android 2.0
  • Latest google maps.
  • F*ING GORGEOUS 854×480 screen, amazingly crisp
  • Screen supports multi-touch
  • very "solid" feel.

Droid Cons:
  • Hardware keyboard SUCKS. IMPOSSIBLE to tell the difference between keys.
  • Android 2.0 is a "stock" android OS, needs a little refining.
  • "touch" buttons below the screen would be a lot easier if they were actual hardware buttons.
  • Default on screen portrait keyboard is useless. Other options exist on the marketplace however.
  • No navigation d-pad or trackball on the outside of the phone to make one-handed operation easier.
  • Heavy

Eris Pros:
  • HTC proprietary "Sense" user interface is a beautiful modification to the stock Android OS.
  • Smaller, more lightweight phone.
  • Hardware buttons below the screen.
  • Trackball below the screen. GREAT for one handed use.
  • "stock" On screen keyboard in portrait mode is AWESOME for one AND two handed use. It's similar to the layout on the blackberry pearl, a qwerty keyboard with half the keys and software to guess what you meant (qw er ty ui op).

Eris Cons:
  • No hardware keyboard.
  • Outdated and slow hardware. When it gets the upgrade to Android 2.0 (word is that it will), it's gonna be a SLOOOOOOW phone.
  • Screen res is "only" 320x480 (nice, but normal at this stage)

My final take?
Both are great phones for specific purposes. If speedy one handed navigation is what you want, the Eris kicks the Droid in the groin. But if a powerhouse of new features and do-all functionality is what you want, then the Droid wins out hands down. Major points would have gone to the Eris if it had come with better hardware that was not already outdated. Personally, I buy my phones to keep for a few years, so I will probably get the droid for two reasons:
  1. My patience with windows mobile has worn out. I don't have a year to wait for something better, and I think Android is my next OS, hands down. All the customizing of WM, none of the suck.
  2. I want my hardware to be FAST, so that it still is pleasurable to use a year from now.
For those two reasons, there's a damned good chance a Droid is in my future. But it's definitely not perfect, not by a long shot.



A few more resources for you guys:

Buying one of the new droids? It APPEARS that this will get you $50 off of it for the moment. (works for new AND existing VZW accounts)
http://phandroid.com/2009/11/06/buy-...nd-droid-eris/

New to the Android OS? Here's some great apps to get you started:
http://phandroid.com/2009/11/06/50-a...-droid-owners/

Resipsa 11-07-2009 04:20 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 634966)
[*]Screen supports multi-touch

are you sure about this? Technically yes, Android 2 supports multitouch, but as I understand the US version of the Droid doesn't have it.

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/...OSKH4ATMY32JVN

I think this really impacts the Droid as far as any gaming is concerned, as most of the best games need some kind of multi touch support on a touch screen, at least as far as I understand multitouch is concerned.

md4958 11-07-2009 06:51 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I thought word on the street was that Verizon was getting the iPhone in 2010? Anybody have anymore info on this?

What impact will the new Droid and Eris have on Apple granting Verizon the iPhone contract?

Resipsa 11-07-2009 10:07 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 635220)
I thought word on the street was that Verizon was getting the iPhone in 2010? Anybody have anymore info on this?

What impact will the new Droid and Eris have on Apple granting Verizon the iPhone contract?

None. It's the service providers (AT&T, Verizon, eta l.) that insist on exclusive deals, not the phone makers. Apple doesn't care what other phones Verizon sells.

King James 11-07-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I have a droid (on it now) and am really digging it. Physical keyboard definetly has a learning curve, but the virtual one is better than I thought. The display is beautiful and text is crystal clear to read. The market is way behind the app store for apple, but it will continue to improve. I really like the android os and what it is capable of becoming. They really need to redo their media app tho.
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spectrrr 11-07-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 635181)
are you sure about this? Technically yes, Android 2 supports multitouch, but as I understand the US version of the Droid doesn't have it.

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/...OSKH4ATMY32JVN

I think this really impacts the Droid as far as any gaming is concerned, as most of the best games need some kind of multi touch support on a touch screen, at least as far as I understand multitouch is concerned.


HMMMmmm

Well no, I'm NOT entirely sure anymore... BUT here's what I know:

This video here CLEARLY shows that the Droid has multi-touch AND pinch and zooming capabilities.
http://phandroid.com/2009/11/03/moto...d-multi-touch/

Even the G1 had multitouch capabilities, BUT that section of the operating system code was commented out.

Theories are quite plentiful as to why the droid would or would not have it.... sadly many of them do not make ANY sense when reading the Motorola article that you provided.

The reviewer in that video clearly demonstrated that the Droid does support multi-touch (he also made comments about that in relation to his Droid on screen keyboard review in a different article). HOWEVER, he is using a pre-release version of the phone. It stands to reason that only 1 week before the launch, Verizon would have given him a normal version of the phone to test out.... but the long and short of it is, we won't have a definitive answer until someone takes a post 11/6 Droid off the Verizon shelves and puts the Picsay imaging application on it to try it out!

Ratters 11-07-2009 12:04 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I just can't see ever owning a phone made by motorloa again. All the one's I had in the past had problems. I like my Samsung Eternity, doesn't do much, but can do everything I want a phone to do and it's very reliable.

spectrrr 11-07-2009 01:10 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 635546)
I just can't see ever owning a phone made by motorloa again. All the one's I had in the past had problems. I like my Samsung Eternity, doesn't do much, but can do everything I want a phone to do and it's very reliable.

Ever have a Motorola StarTac? :D amazing phones (years and years ago)

NOW however..... :tpd... pretty shitty.... hope they have a winner here, although I would like to take the guy that designed the droid keyboard out back and have him shot in the jewels.

Titan410 11-07-2009 02:42 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
I ditched my BB Curve and got the Droid Friday. Still putting it through its paces but so far I like it.
If you just need a no nonsense phone the BB was great.
I like gadgets so I went with the Droid. The keyboard isn't that bad. Not a BB, but not bad.

spectrrr 11-07-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan410 (Post 635746)
I ditched my BB Curve and got the Droid Friday. Still putting it through its paces but so far I like it.
If you just need a no nonsense phone the BB was great.
I like gadgets so I went with the Droid. The keyboard isn't that bad. Not a BB, but not bad.

Vince, any chance you would put a trial of Picsay imaging on your Droid and give us a FINAL verdict on if the hardware supports multitouch?

spectrrr 11-07-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/g...deo/#continued

""the US version of the user interface lacks multi-touch features like pinch-to-zoom even though the underlying 2.0 OS supports multitouch events.""

The wording of this one here seems to suggest that the OS still supports multitouch, but google was not going to take on apple by including any applications in the stock UI that used it. If someone else *cough* wants to make an app that uses it, have fun :tg

King James 11-08-2009 01:53 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 635763)
Vince, any chance you would put a trial of Picsay imaging on your Droid and give us a FINAL verdict on if the hardware supports multitouch?

who cares if some picture app has multitouch? the phone/os can support multitouch but currently does not on useful things such as the virtual keyboard. And browser doesn't currently have pinch zoom, although both are a software update away

spectrrr 11-08-2009 02:04 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 636291)
who cares if some picture app has multitouch? the phone/os can support multitouch but currently does not on useful things such as the virtual keyboard. And browser doesn't currently have pinch zoom, although both are a software update away

That is the exact point I was trying to prove, seems like some of the "official" talk is that its not built into the hardware at all. I think that's a load of cow dung.... but nevertheless it seems a tad concerning, because I WANT that possibility of a software update sometime in the future when *cough* Google stops tiptoeing around Apple.

(and yeah, some picture app with multitouch... yawn, don't care :tg)

Titan410 11-08-2009 05:46 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 635763)
Vince, any chance you would put a trial of Picsay imaging on your Droid and give us a FINAL verdict on if the hardware supports multitouch?

Sure. I just did and it does pinch support multitouch.

spectrrr 11-08-2009 10:05 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan410 (Post 636344)
Sure. I just did and it does pinch support multitouch.

Woohoo, Thanks Vince!!

That means we probably WILL get a better browser experience in the future. That makes me very very happy.... and all but seals up the fact that I'm getting that phone in the next 48 hours!

Skywalker 11-08-2009 11:22 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 623829)
These are not the droids you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 633025)
Uncle Owen, this R2 unit has a bad motivator.

:r:r:r
http://blog.filippovitale.it/wp-cont...king-for-2.jpg

Titan410 11-08-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 636562)
Woohoo, Thanks Vince!!

That means we probably WILL get a better browser experience in the future. That makes me very very happy.... and all but seals up the fact that I'm getting that phone in the next 48 hours!

NP :)

MikeyC 11-08-2009 12:05 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Great info in here guys! My wife is due for a new phone next month and she wants an iPhone. I have one though and I'm so sick and tired of all the dropped calls. I suggested the Droid as an alternative and the wife really likes the idea of the keyboard the phone has. Plus, she gets to stay with Verizon which is a huge plus.

spectrrr 11-08-2009 12:34 PM

Re: Anyone seriosuly looking at the new DROID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 636716)
Great info in here guys! My wife is due for a new phone next month and she wants an iPhone. I have one though and I'm so sick and tired of all the dropped calls. I suggested the Droid as an alternative and the wife really likes the idea of the keyboard the phone has. Plus, she gets to stay with Verizon which is a huge plus.

Make sure she checks out the Eris. I think the Eris is closer to an iPhone like product than the Droid. The Eris will also have a MUCH better user experience right out of the box. And as for the keyboard... Droid keyboard = :td


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