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Anyone here use snus?
I don't like to dip, so I generally use snus at work, when driving, or when I don't have time to fit a cigar in. I usually buy Monte Cristo, General original, and Romeo y Julieta. I'm curious what other brands and blends are good.
Thanks,
Mike

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have tried general a few times, but since I do dip... I find I don't really get a buzz from it. Maybe dip built up a tolerance

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I don't tend to get a buzz from snus or dip anymore, but i'm calm and seem to get the nic from snus. Whenever I run out, I'll buy a can or two of Cope pouches or long cut.

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I've seen snus in stores, but what is it? Do you put it in your mouth or nose? I don't have any interest in trying it.

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Snus is a spitless tobacco that is usually made and sold from Sweden. It comes in pouch and loose forms in a tin. It does not have fiber glass and does not give you the sensation to spit, while still giving you tobacco taste/flavor and the nicotine.

Snuff is the product that is used through the nose. I used to dip on deployments, now I generally stick to snus.

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Gotcha. Thanks for the info.

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Some discussion here: Camel Snus

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Thanks for the link.
I saw that when I was searching earlier today, but I thought to myself "self, you should post a real Snus thread. Camel snus is bubble gum in a pouch."

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Try getsnus.com They have a few stark (strong) ones. I've heard the thunder frosted is really good, and it is strong.

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Dip DOES NOT had fiberglass in it. That is an urban myth... the crystals seen under a microscope are salt crystals. Fiberglass would shred your mouth and you would be spitting blood.

That being said, snus is alright, but doesn't give me a buzz like Cope or Kodiak will. I put in a 8 of the camel pouches and didn't feel a thing... Flavor was nice though.

aj

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Try Göteborg's Rapé, Röda Lacket (my personal favorite), Göteborg's Rapé No. 2 (lingonberry flavor). General is okay. All have 8mg of nicotine, stark (strong) snus has 14mg.

Happy Snusing!

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Holy Thread Resurrection Batman ;s:D

I have been digging the Camel Frost Snus (ducks).

A local B&M has the General snus so a grabbed a can of White and a can of Wintergreen.

The white is not so bad but the wintergreen is :(. I also find both of them, coming from the Camel, to be a bit "slimy".

What would you all recommend for someone who actually likes the Camel? (besides sticking with the Camel)

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I use buysnus.com. When I'm not lazy and order. Although recently been back on the Skoal Wagon.

For snus stick to the tobacco/natural/original flavors.

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I'd recommend white portions of the Skruft flavored stuff.
It doesn't bleed as fast, so the flavor isn't overpowering, and it's not too sweet, although the camel is pretty sweet.

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I have been using it lately when driving home from work or out at the bars. The cigar shop had a ton of free samples last month so I made sure to get plenty.

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Anyone know where/how to get free samples of snus before buying, or has PACT basically killed that idea?

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I think the free samples are now gone.

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MJ I have a couple sampler pouches of the General I can send you, PM me your address.

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Only ever tried Camel and Marlbro snus. Other then that, I stick to Grizzly, Cope, or Skoal.

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Just tried it for the first time last month. Steve (fissure) let me try some Swedish Snus, General White/Mini-Portion Mint.

To be honest I dont' smoke very much, maybe 10 cigars/month, and I noticed the nicotine. No buzz or anything, but it definitely was there. Since I had a hard time finding it so I tried some Camel Frost. The Camel pouches were larger, rougher, were overly sweet, and lost their flavor quickly. I also didn't notice the nic much.

I just found a local shop that carries Swedish Snus and bought some more General. I like it a lot better. They dont' have a ton, just one of those micro table-top fridges with 60-80 cans, but only 4 flavors. I grabbed of the same stuff Steve gave me, but eventually I'd like to try some of the natural tobacco flavored stuff.

I've read some good info about the differences between the American and Swedish stuff. Check out the link for more info...

User Review:
http://www.snuscentral.org/snus-revi...us-tastes.html

Nicotine Levels:
http://www.snuscentral.org/snusfaqs/...-snus-faq.html

Production Methods:
http://www.snuscentral.org/latest-sn...-snus-yet.html

The last article is most important. The Swedes have done some serious work to minimize potential negative effects of snus.

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Thanks for the post! I'll need to find some General Snus

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Thanks for the great post Mike :tu

The last point is very important when regarding Swedish Snus such as General. They made Snus so they could get people to stop smoking. I'm pretty sure I read that the Swedes have the lowest amount of smokers in the world and many have used Snus to get off smoking. So they tried to formulate it to be as natural as possible.

I tried Snus after talking to Steve(fissure) about it. Having a little pouch of tobacco in my mouth is a big turnoff, and even putting it in my top lip still makes me want to spit.

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No problem. The two sites I know of are:

http://www.getsnus.com

http://www.northerner.com

Unfortunately they are now applying some local state tobacco taxes. I've heard other sites are not. I found it cheaper to buy them one can at a time at the local B&M for $3.99/can. Good luck, it took a while to find a B&M who stocks it.

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Having it in my upper lip doesn't make me want to spit. It does help to have a drink though cause I do get a little extra siliva. I've never dipped, so I don't have that reference or inclination to spit tobacco juice out.

Anyway, you're right about their processing. Per the last article:


More info from:

http://www.northerner.com/articles/S...4981/SHOP-333/

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Did your local B&M have the new General Mint regular portion? I can get the mini mint, but no where seems to have the Regular/large portion Mint.

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I don't think so. They only had mint and wintergreen. I grabbed the mini-mint, I didn't check to see if there was regular portion. I can look next time I'm there, but it could be a little while (weeks). I am just starting out on snus, so I only use 1 or 2 pouches per day.

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My local B&M has the regular portions.. I can pick you up some if you want :)

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Has anyone tried the General Mini portions and General White Mini back to back? Any big difference?

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Not sure. Here is the nic level differences

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That said I believe all the pouches to be either .8g/pouch or 1g/pouch, just with different nic concentration levels

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I know each contains 4mg of Nicotine, just one is not moisturized at the end and the other is. I don't use snus that often, so it will undoubtedly be sitting in the can for a while. I know the Camel Snus' are stored in refrigerators, and I stored my tins just in a drawer and they dryed out a bit.

I'm just wondering if moisturized vs. unmoisturized means a change in flavor, otherwise I'm probably buying mini portions of the white.

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Just popped a Nick and Johnny Strong in a few seconds ago.

I've been rotating between the following lately:
02 (13mg/g nic)
Thunder Wintergreen Extra Stark (16 mg/g nic)
Nick and Johnny Strong (12ish+ mg/g nic)
Skruf Xtra Stark (18-19 mg/g nic [est])

All have good flavor are enough nicotine that you notice they're in there.

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Not sure about moisturized vs. unmoisturized. The B&M by me had them in a mini display fridge that I believe was branded by General. From what I've read you should keep all swedish snus refridgerated unless it will be used in the next 24-48 hours. I'm sure many don't, but to each their own. You can freeze it for up to a year to keep it fresh, then thaw in the fridge before use.

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I might be the wuss of the group, but I can only take the mini's. Anything over 4mg and I start getting headaches.


Also: anyone try Goterberg Rape, and Goterberg Rape No. 2?

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You're no wuss. I haven't tried anything larger than mini. Since I can tell they're there, I'm not going to move up to the larger portions anytime soon.

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Lol, guess I need a fridge in my dorm room then! Thanks!

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Tried them both but wasn't impressed enough to ever order any more. Can't really describe them or tell you why I wasn't, though. It's been a while. Sorry. Also, they may not have had enough nicotine for me, so you probably shouldn't base anything on my take.

I don't refrigerate mine. Just try to get through cans when I open them. We did an experiment one night (after a few drinks) rehydrating some dried portions, though. Dipped them in vodka, let rest for a few minutes, and were good to go. :)

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Haha thats a cool fix!

The Goterberg Rape No. 2 was recommended for those just starting snus or those who like Camel Snus. (I like the Camel Snus, but sometimes I can hardly taste the flavor).

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Ok. That makes sense. Give it a shot, then. It's definitely better than Camel.

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PACT has made mailorder snus more expensive and has reduced the available brands by quite a bit for us US residents. I'm trying to make a decision on whether to keep buying as it is getting cost prohibitive to pay ~$3.50 per can and then pay $12.00 for the required UPS shipping then have to have someone over 21 sign for it. I'm one who has some snus going 6-10 times a day and really enjoy it. General White Portion is my goto but have recently been enjoying the new Ogden's which is more like straight tobacco than most of the others. I buy from getsnus.com. They are a Northener company.

MCS

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Kronan White Portion is also very good. The only reason to refrigerate is to keep the snus fresh. I keep a few cans in the car and it stays fine for a couple weeks.

MCS

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Thanks for the help, guys!

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I too don't like to go much over 4mg. I can do the others but definitely not over 8mg.

As to the difference in the General Mini and Mini white's; I find that the regular mini lasts a bit longer storage wise. The uptake is also quicker on the nicotine. The White's however, taste a little better to me as the slow uptake and your own moistening make it that way.

The Goteberg No.2 is a nice change of pace to the regular mint, wintergreen, etc. It's got juniper berry that is pretty pronounced after a while. I would buy a can and try it. I like to supplement it when I get tired of plain or minty snus's.

Croatan, you ever try the General Onyx black or the Oden's extra Stark's? A friend who turned me onto snus only uses the stronger ones and he loves both of those.

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Yes, tried them both. I liked the General better than the Oden's--the Oden's tasted a little harsh, as far as I can recall. I wouldn't turn either down in a bar, but when I had tins open, I didn't find myself reaching for them as often as the others, so I didn't order more. Nothing wrong with either, though, and I'll probably revisit them again relatively soon.

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Yeah he prefer's the Onyx over the Oden's as well. I think it's mostly because it comes in a black pouch. :banger

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I pretty much stick to the General White Portion Mint. I love the stuff!!! Prices sure have gone up though!!!

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Do/Did any of you snus users used to or still smoke cigarettes?

I ask because I know the swedes market it as an alternative. I never have, and my only real concern is developing a real addiction. I can smoke cigars heavily, occasionally, or even go long stretches without. Although I do enjoy it, I dont' feel it is a habit or an addiciton. My concern is that if I use snus too much it might become one or the other.

What do you think?

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I've never smoked cigarettes. Some days I use a whole bunch of snus packets, some times I don't use any at all for days--never felt like I'm physically addicted. I have a bit of an addictive personality, so sometimes that might factor in, but I've never felt a physical addiction to snus.

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Thanks. I realized after I posted that it was kind of a personal question. I just wanted another's opinon/experience. I appreciate your response.

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I quit cigarettes over two years ago.
I've currently been on an Oden's strong and 02 Strong kick. The Oden's are a lot more flavorful though. The 02s take quite some time to "bleed" through the pouch, similar to a white portion. I've also been enjoying the General Onyx. I revisited these about a week ago. I forgot how much I like them.