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RJK18 10-22-2009 08:22 PM

Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Too Soon?

Blueface 10-22-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
:r:r:r

Please don't jinx it. Please!!!

feznuk 10-22-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Probably not after that inning...that was 6 in a hurry.

RJK18 10-22-2009 08:25 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
I think a NY vs Philly WS would be alot of fun.

feznuk 10-22-2009 08:28 PM

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It certainly has the makings to be one heck of a show.

MedicCook 10-22-2009 10:04 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RJK18 (Post 613261)
Too Soon?

I think YES.

I blame you. :r

PeteSB75 10-23-2009 06:54 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Hell of a game last night.

yourchoice 10-23-2009 07:16 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
It's not too soon as far as I'm concerned. :D

Jinx away gentlemen (although I'd prefer the Phils to play the Skankees in the WS)

yachties23 10-23-2009 07:20 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RJK18 (Post 613271)
I think a NY vs Philly WS would be alot of fun.

As a Met fan it is the absolute worst thing that could happen.

Blueface 10-23-2009 07:22 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 613406)
I think YES.

I blame you. :r

Me too!!!

The Poet 10-23-2009 07:51 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yachties23 (Post 613928)
As a Met fan it is the absolute worst thing that could happen.

Worse than the spanking Yanks gave you back in '00? :D

Blueface 10-23-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 613957)
Worse than the spanking Yanks gave you back in '00? :D

That wasn't a spanking. They won one game.:r

RJK18 10-25-2009 10:03 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Its official, Let's Go yankees!!!

RJK18 10-25-2009 10:09 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
I wonder which Brad Lidge will show up?

VirtualSmitty 10-25-2009 10:18 PM

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First game is going to be a battle of former Indians pitchers, Lee vs Sabathia :r

MedicCook 10-25-2009 10:24 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
It is going to be a great World Series. Both these teams can hit the ball a long way. Hopefully the Yankees pitchers can shut the Phillies down.

VirtualSmitty 10-25-2009 10:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 617311)
It is going to be a great World Series. Both these teams can hit the ball a long way. Hopefully the Yankees pitchers can shut the Phillies down.

Definitely gonna be a good series. First time since 1950 the Yanks and Phils have met in the WS, maybe we'll get some of those Mets fans to root for us now :D

MedicCook 10-25-2009 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 617333)
Definitely gonna be a good series. First time since 1950 the Yanks and Phils have met in the WS, maybe we'll get some of those Mets fans to root for us now :D

I don't see it happening. Mets fans hate the Yankees more than they hate the Phillies.

wavescrashing 10-25-2009 10:45 PM

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This is gonna be a hell of a series. I'm calling the Phillies here at 4-2

MedicCook 10-25-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Yankees in 6.

VirtualSmitty 10-25-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 617407)
Yankees in 6.

Yea, that's that i'm thinking too.

MedicCook 10-25-2009 11:03 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
They need to finish it at home. It is only right.

VirtualSmitty 10-25-2009 11:26 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 617421)
They need to finish it at home. It is only right.

My thoughts exactly! :tu

MedicCook 10-25-2009 11:37 PM

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They announced tonight that George will be at the Stadium for the World Series.

VirtualSmitty 10-25-2009 11:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 617503)
They announced tonight that George will be at the Stadium for the World Series.

That's good to hear, was strange not seeing him there to accept the ALCS championship trophy. Hal just isn't the same as the Boss.

darkninja67 10-25-2009 11:40 PM

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This could be a great series.
Phillies are gamers and have a good line up and pitching. Should be well matched. I think our offense will really wake up this series though especially with RISP.

kelmac07 10-26-2009 04:20 AM

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This should be a GREAT offensive series. Both parks are extremely hitter friendly. Bullpen nod goes to the Yanks. Fasten those seat belts, should be a good one.

RJK18 10-26-2009 07:22 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Let's see seven games and a parade down the Canyon of Heros. I want as much baseball as I can get.

feznuk 10-26-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RJK18 (Post 617666)
Let's see seven games and a parade down the Canyon of Heros. I want as much baseball as I can get.

:tpd: Except the parade route will be North on Broad, Right onto Pattison then hook a Left into the stadium.:D

yourchoice 10-26-2009 11:57 AM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Congratulations to the Yanks making it to the World Series. I am very excited about this matchup, it should be a great series to watch.

Prediction? Phillies in 5.

GO PHILLIES!!!

ade06 10-26-2009 12:01 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
I'm going with Phillies in 6!!!

Blueface 10-26-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 617954)
Prediction? Phillies in 5.

WHAT???
Come on. Seriously?
The best team in baseball in 2009 based on record was the Yankees.
The only team to win over 100 games.
The batting arsenal they have?
The pitching?
The bullpen?

I see the Phillies as an admirable opponent as I did the Angels. No doubt that while I think I can safely argue why the Yankees are the better team, no way would I ever think the Yankees can pull this off in 5.

There is a fan and then there is a blind fan.:r
Phillies in 5. That there is some seriously funny chit!!!

Blueface 10-26-2009 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 617962)
I'm going with Phillies in 6!!!

Another dreamer.:r

ade06 10-26-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 617998)
Another dreamer.:r

I'm an Orioles fan at heart, so I don't really have a horse in the race (full disclaimer… I do live in Philadelphia)… The Phillies have a soild team and are exciting to watch, and the Yankees, well… not so much. Don't forget, the Phillies are the defending World Champions! The Yankees… again, not so much. :ss

MedicCook 10-26-2009 12:31 PM

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This will be a tough Series. Both teams are match up well. It will definately be a knock down fight.

Blueface 10-26-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 618013)
I'm an Orioles fan at heart, so I don't really have a horse in the race (full disclaimer… I do live in Philadelphia)… The Phillies have a soild team and are exciting to watch, and the Yankees, well… not so much. Don't forget, the Phillies are the defending World Champions! The Yankees… again, not so much. :ss

:r:r:r

Yeah, Phillies won last year.
In the decade of 2000, the Yankees are now in their third World Series. Hmmm....
In their history, they are now in their 40th. Hmmm.... Of which they have won 26. Hmmm....
In 2009, the Yankees won 103 games, the Phillies 93. My simple math says we won 10 more.

I'll bite even further.
Here are the 2009 stats for both on things that shed "excitement".

Runs Phillies 820 Yankees 915
Hits Phillies 1439 Yankees 1604
HRs Phillies 224 Yankees 244
RBI Phillies 788 Yankees 881
Avg. Phillies .258 Yankees .283
Slugging Phillies .447 Yankees .478

Add 103 wins to 93 and I can clearly see why you think the Phillies are a more exciting team.:r As I said earlier, blind.

Blueface 10-26-2009 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 618015)
This will be a tough Series. Both teams are match up well. It will definately be a knock down fight.

No way.
Phillies in 5.:r

yourchoice 10-26-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 617986)
WHAT???
Come on. Seriously?
The best team in baseball in 2009 based on record was the Yankees.
The only team to win over 100 games.
The batting arsenal they have?
The pitching?
The bullpen?

I see the Phillies as an admirable opponent as I did the Angels. No doubt that while I think I can safely argue why the Yankees are the better team, no way would I ever think the Yankees can pull this off in 5.

There is a fan and then there is a blind fan.:r
Phillies in 5. That there is some seriously funny chit!!!

You know Carlos, I knew I'd probably catch some flack for that...I could have taken the high road and played it safe predicting a 6 or 7 game series, but I went with the bold prediction instead. The Phillies have won 16 out of their last 20 playoff games and I hope they can continue that dominance. I'd rather have a .800 win percentage in the playoffs than a .636 regular season record any day.

And like you I feel I can safely argue who the better team is. We just may not agree on the team. :D Batter for batter, pitcher for pitcher. If the back end of the Phillies bullpen can hold it together, I see the Phillies in 5. I know that's a big "if", but that's what makes a prediction a prediction. The Yankees have the best postseason relief pitcher in the history of baseball, no doubt about it. But aside from him, what I've seen from the other relievers in the post season has been less than stellar.

MedicCook 10-26-2009 12:52 PM

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We could take this back to 3rd grade level.

Yankees Rule and the Phillies Drool. :r

Blueface 10-26-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 618049)
You know Carlos, I knew I'd probably catch some flack for that...I could have taken the high road and played it safe predicting a 6 or 7 game series, but I went with the bold prediction instead. The Phillies have won 16 out of their last 20 playoff games and I hope they can continue that dominance. I'd rather have a .800 win percentage in the playoffs than a .636 regular season record any day.

And like you I feel I can safely argue who the better team is. We just may not agree on the team. :D Batter for batter, pitcher for pitcher. If the back end of the Phillies bullpen can hold it together, I see the Phillies in 5. I know that's a big "if", but that's what makes a prediction a prediction. The Yankees have the best postseason relief pitcher in the history of baseball, no doubt about it. But aside from him, what I've seen from the other relievers in the post season has been less than stellar.

I disagree on the less than stellar pitching. Other than really one game, they did the job.
I already posted stats on both teams. If a better team is measured by hits, home runs, batting average, slugging percentage and overall wins, only a Phillies fan can argue their team is the best.
Time will tell. I am just not a blind fan that can't see the two best teams in the league are facing each other and as I have said statistically, the Yankees ARE the better team. Please show me something else on paper as I did here that shows the contrary. I just think it is blind and loony to not respect the Yankees as a formidable force and think this can end in 5 games, with a Phillies win, when again, they are statistically the better team.
I have seen crazier things happen but I have also tried to fart and paint it green and haven't been able to.

Starscream 10-26-2009 12:54 PM

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Go NL!

ade06 10-26-2009 12:55 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 618039)
:r:r:r

Yeah, Phillies won last year.
In the decade of 2000, the Yankees are now in their third World Series. Hmmm....
In their history, they are now in their 40th. Hmmm.... Of which they have won 26. Hmmm....
In 2009, the Yankees won 103 games, the Phillies 93. My simple math says we won 10 more.

I'll bite even further.
Here are the 2009 stats for both on things that shed "excitement".

Runs Phillies 820 Yankees 915
Hits Phillies 1439 Yankees 1604
HRs Phillies 224 Yankees 244
RBI Phillies 788 Yankees 881
Avg. Phillies .258 Yankees .283
Slugging Phillies .447 Yankees .478

Add 103 wins to 93 and I can clearly see why you think the Phillies are a more exciting team. As I said earlier, blind.

Noting that I am not the defender of the Phillies. Stats don't always equate to wins (or your definition on "things that shed excitement"). While the Yankees are the stat champs, the Phillies are the current World Champs and will be the 2009 World Champs as well. I'll smoke a good one during the victory parade in Philadelphia after game 6. :ss :ss

floydpink 10-26-2009 12:57 PM

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Any of the confident Philly fans care to back it up with a wager? Let's call it a 5er of Habanos?

Talk is cheap, Habanos are yummy!

MedicCook 10-26-2009 12:58 PM

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The Yankees also lead MLB in comeback wins and walk off wins this season. How is that not exciting?

Blueface 10-26-2009 01:02 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 618064)
or your definition on "things that shed excitement").

I was simply addressing your point the Phillies are a more exciting team.
If the Yankees get more hits, more runs, better batting average, better slugging average, and more wins, how can one say the Phillies are more exciting unless you have very dark glasses in a very dark room. What then constitutes excitement may be the question to ask.

If the Phillies win, they will have beaten the best team in baseball in 2009 and will tip my hat to them. I just won't insult them or any Phillies fan by thinking it could be done in 5 or 6. This is not the first two rounds of the playoffs. This winds it down to the two best. I frankly see this going 7 and ending in NY, with long sad bus ride home to Philadelphia for the Phillies.

TheTraveler 10-26-2009 01:03 PM

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Meh, I'd root for a troupe of drunken monkeys if they were playing the Crankees. That's not to say that I don't like Philly ... I do ... but I R E A L L Y hope they win again. :D

VirtualSmitty 10-26-2009 01:04 PM

Re: Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 618076)
The Yankees also lead MLB in comeback wins and walk off wins this season. How is that not exciting?

:r:tpd: I guess it all boils down to what you define as exciting.

Blueface 10-26-2009 01:16 PM

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Well, seems the Phillies will have to do it against better completely overall stats by the Yankees and against odds makers.

http://sports-odds.com/baseball/1026...edictions.html

Seems they had it pegged back in February as well.
http://www.thespread.com/sports-bett...smakers-a.html

Odds for the ALCS and NLCS.
Yankees alone have same chance as the three other teams combined!

Las Vegas, Nevada (October 13, 2009) - Using Las Vegas odds, the teams expected to make and win the World Series can be identified. RJ Bell of Pregame.com provides the most accurate possible consensus of a sporting event's true odds.

Odds to win the 2009 World Series:

New York Yankees: 1 to 1 (50% chance)
LA Dodgers: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)
Philadelphia Phillies: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)
Los Angeles Angels: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)

Now we just have to live up to it.:D

Starscream 10-26-2009 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ade06 (Post 618064)
Stats don't always equate to wins

:tpd:

Blueface 10-26-2009 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 618134)
:tpd:

I could not find anything to agree with more than that statement.

All can keep highlighting this comment all you want.

The point of the stats was not to show a guaranteed win. I am no fool and have seen many underdogs win in my 50 years on this Earth.

The point of the stats was that a comment was made that the Phillies were a more "exciting" team. I highlighted stats that to me and most anyone, illustrates the Yankees far exceeding the Phillies in all categories.

So, while stats don't guarantee a win, watching a team that hit more times on base, slammed more balls out of the park, had a better slugging percentage and WON 10 more games, more walk off wins and have the best closing reliever to have played the game, it is hard to say the Phillies are more exciting. However, I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and we are often blinded into believing things that are not always as one sees them. Let's just say the Phillies in 3 as that seems to be possible in the eyes of some Phillies fans as the Yankees may not show up for game 4 and quit.


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