Originally Posted by newlifetaxidermy (Post 610619)

Got an email from the local B&M that theirs are in. You have to buy a box of Tat brown label to be able to buy a box of Dracs or Boris. Singles are only available in a sampler...the cheapest one is $95 with tax

Originally Posted by newlifetaxidermy (Post 610619)

Got an email from the local B&M that theirs are in. You have to buy a box of Tat brown label to be able to buy a box of Dracs or Boris. Singles are only available in a sampler...the cheapest one is $95 with tax

Originally Posted by newlifetaxidermy (Post 610619)

Got an email from the local B&M that theirs are in. You have to buy a box of Tat brown label to be able to buy a box of Dracs or Boris. Singles are only available in a sampler...the cheapest one is $95 with tax

Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 610689)

I would really like to know the name of the shop fi you don't mind sharing. :)

Originally Posted by marge796 (Post 610735)

P.S. I'll be staying away from the madness that the Drac has created.

Originally Posted by marge796 (Post 610735)

Whatever happened to people doing the right thing because, it's the right thing to do?

I think some of the responsibility has to fall back onto Mr. Johnson to make sure his customers aren't being taken by greedy B&Ms and vendors. It really takes away from the enjoyment of the hobby.


:2


Chris.....



P.S. I'll be staying away from the madness that the Drac has created.

Originally Posted by marge796 (Post 610735)

Whatever happened to people doing the right thing because, it's the right thing to do?

I think some of the responsibility has to fall back onto Mr. Johnson to make sure his customers aren't being taken by greedy B&Ms and vendors. It really takes away from the enjoyment of the hobby.

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 610750)

Newlife,

Please explain where the price gouging is going on??

13 sticks in a box at $13 each - hmm....$169 in my book

And, if you wanna sling mud, newlife, read your email completely.

The sampler is $80 - the TAXES are over $15.

That's not gouging. That's SCHIP and your NC legislation.

I'm gonna guess that you totally MISSED the comment about the PREORDER status or the COTMC members??

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 611126)

Ah yes....I see, bash the retailer, not the problem.

The State of North Carolina legislature, in their infinite wisdom, has
passed yet another increase in the Other Tobacco Products tax of 2.8%
(from 10% to 12.8% wholesale). To make things worse, they have imposed
a floor tax on our existing inventory.

yeah....did you FORGET that part??

Great that y'all can do the math for the NC State SALES tax....Now add on the ADDITIONAL OTP tax of 12.8% along with the SCHIP.

Gee....what does that add up to???

Originally Posted by acarr (Post 611301)

These things are out at my store.

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 611329)

Grab me a box!!

Originally Posted by newlifetaxidermy (Post 611110)

.... I haven't gone crazy like Col Kurtz and written them off, ......

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 610626)

thats some bullchit right there! Im sure Pete would love to hear about the price gouging going on.:td

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 611404)

That's why we're ALL in the Asylum!!!

:su

Now, here's the numbers from our shopping trip....

Local Taxes - $3.50

NC Tobacco Tax - $3.61

SCHIP - $3.28

Total Taxes - $10.39

And that was on less than $80 purchase.

For those of you on the ""Bash the retailer"" Bandwagon, enough is enough.

Funny that acarr had to do the SAME thing in AZ that a certain retailer here had to do....But NO MENTION of Pete Johnson making this a requirement???

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 611539)

I just saved a lot of money by switching to GEICO

Originally Posted by AngryBill (Post 611490)

Not bashing here... But the only problem with the numbers are the manufacturer pays the SCHIP tax, not the retailer. If a buyer from out of state buys, then they don't have to pay that states sales tax either.

All comes down to Buy them if you want them or don't if you aren't willing to pay the price.

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 612541)

Alright I didn't wanna start a whole different thread so...

How many boxes of each are the 200-something shops getting? Not the main or the secondary but the others

aj

Originally Posted by AngryBill (Post 612017)

Again, retailers do not pay the SCHIP tax, manufacturers do.

Originally Posted by AngryBill (Post 612017)

Like i said before, All comes down to Buy them if you want them or don't if you aren't willing to pay the price. Retailers have a right to charge what they want and consumers have the right to buy or not.

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 612825)

Not exactly. Retailers do pay for the SCHIP tax as the manufacturers pass it along when they upped their cost to the retailer. Then, in turn, retailers pass it along to the customer. It's ultimately the customer that pays in the end.

Originally Posted by tmoney2007 (Post 614201)

This means that SCHIP is built into the MSRP, so charging MSRP + a percentage and calling it SCHIP is dishonest.

I agree. Who said they did this?

Price the cigars higher than MSRP if you want to make more money, but taking advantage of customers that don't know that SCHIP is part of MSRP is dishonest.

It is dishonest but I believe it's up the buyer to be informed of their purchases so they don't get taken.

Honestly, charging state cigar taxes as a percentage of the retail price is shady too. NC is 12.8% of WHOLESALE price. If you want to make at least keystone on your actual price, then make your pretax prices higher. Charging 12.8% of the retail purchase is not what the law states.

Again, who said they did this?

Honest, transparent pricing doesn't have to be non-profitable. Just price the sticks where you want to price them and charge the taxes as they are meant to be charged.

Agreed. That's what we do.

Saying something costs $10 and then charging 40 or 80 cents for "SCHIP", and then charging another 1.28 for state tobacco taxes when half of the state taxes and all of the SCHIP taxes go into your pocket is not right IMO.

Agreed and again who said they were doing this?

Originally Posted by Col. Kurtz (Post 614335)

Since the thread-jack is firmly in place, here is an example of what we're talking about.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...2/DSCN2082.jpg