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fairwind 07-17-2009 01:12 PM

Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs
 
While I enjoy name brand cigars, sometimes the loot is short so I buy bundled cigars, seconds or over-runs. I have found that these cigars are pretty good once they have been sitting in the humi for awhile.

I smoke everyday and 2 to 3 on Sat. & Sun. so it adds up pretty quick. By going to the lower priced brands I have been pleasantly surprised on more than once occasion.

Anyone Else?

Dan

The Poet 07-17-2009 01:29 PM

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I used to order 2 or 3 bundles of Connies every month. These seconds from the Villazon factory (Hoyo, Punch, ERDM, Ultimate) were often "seconds" only because the wrappers were blotchy or off-color, and smoked and tasted just fine, thank you very much. At $25-$40/bundles of 25, they were, and still are, as close to a steal as one can find.

Hmmm, mebbe I should get me some right now! :ss

ade06 07-17-2009 01:30 PM

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Nope not me... the more money I spend on a cigar means the better quality it must be. :r:r:r

Kreth 07-17-2009 01:30 PM

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I primarily stock my humidor with lower-priced sticks like Perdomo Slow-aged or IT Super Fuerte, which I've found are as good or better than many "high end" smokes.
I take advantage of samplers or c bid to try out more expensive sticks.

Dunkel 07-17-2009 01:55 PM

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:tpd:

I smoke a cigar or 2 everyday, so inexpensive cigars are my thing. Slow Aged 826 Maduro, IT Maduro and SF Mad., and a few others are my go to. I buy better cigars to add to trades so as not to offend.

Lucky_Hippo 07-17-2009 02:24 PM

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Searching for a "diamond in the ruff" is one of my favoite past times. If I can find a low priced, off the radar smoke that turns out to be a winner, I've had a great day! It's like a mini victory for me. :wo

kelmac07 07-17-2009 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky_Hippo (Post 469052)
Searching for a "diamond in the ruff" is one of my favoite past times. If I can find a low priced, off the radar smoke that turns out to be a winner, I've had a great day! It's like a mini victory for me. :wo

:tpd: Tampa Sweetheart 500 maduros, Famous Nic 3000s are a few of the gems!!

fairwind 07-17-2009 04:47 PM

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Well good to see I'm not the only one on the BB.

I broke down and bought a bundle of "Black Sheep" and 2 boxes of "Argyle" from Holts. I was surprised that they were pretty good. Good flavor and good burn.

The Honduran and Nicaragua over-runs needed lots of time in the humidor before burning right and tasting right.

Dan

dentonparrots 07-17-2009 04:58 PM

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Troop Habano Robusto from Kioki Cigars are fantastic value for money, taste and smoke well too (can't wait to try some with age on them) and AndyMadera's Reserva MiraFlor's are great, top, really good!

ChasDen 07-17-2009 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 469062)
Tampa Sweetheart 500 maduros, Famous Nic 3000s are a few of the gems!!

Yep thats a fact.

I have 3 bundles of the sweethearts but almost out of the 3000's.

Chas

elderboy02 07-17-2009 07:55 PM

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Flor de Oliva Maduros are great :dr

flat6nut 07-17-2009 08:05 PM

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Everyone knows I love me some Tampa Sweethearts in Maduro, not so much the naturals though. Have not had anything that comes close to the #500 Maduro under $10.

Cigary 07-17-2009 08:07 PM

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I buy the best tasting cigars I can find and if they are seconds,,,no problem at all. If they are other cigars that are not the "in" cigars I don't care as long as it pleases me. Smoke what appeals to you,,,it doesn't have to be the popular cigars as I experiment and buy lots of other cigar brands. So far I have had cigars that are deemed "unknowns" to most but are very good cigars and that includes CC's.

Gunslinger 07-17-2009 08:19 PM

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Roly's aren't a bad second if one prefers a medium to strong smoke.

Whee 07-17-2009 08:21 PM

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I have to give props as well to Famous Nic 3000, Flor de Oliva's and the ITC Super Fuerte's.

A couple others that I like, that aren;t bad for an everyday stick. Especially if they rest for a little while:

Oliveros Classic
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-IZA&cat=3

CI Anniversary
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...A6052-15&cat=7

Vance2 07-19-2009 09:04 AM

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I have a bundle of Flor de Oliva maduros in the humi at all times....it's a strange and wonderful thing when a bundle stick is as good or better than many others two or three times as expensive. It's perfect as an everyday smoke. Also just picked up a bundle of Riata maduros....jury is still out on those. Of the 10 or so I've smoked, sometimes I like them, sometimes I don't.

SmokinApe 07-19-2009 09:41 AM

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Hand rolled long filler Don Pepin Garcia cigars at a great price...

http://www.holts.com/category.html?i...00&trail=86665

tobii3 07-19-2009 10:11 AM

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ruh roh...

you mean like this??

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...3/aging002.jpg

:D

Right now in the cooler-dor I have Connies, La Floridita (CR & Nic), Flor de Oliva, Oliva Segundos, Famous, CFO......:dance:

dunng 07-19-2009 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 471081)
Hand rolled long filler Don Pepin Garcia cigars at a great price...

http://www.holts.com/category.html?i...00&trail=86665

:tpd: LHO's are GREAT! :tu

borndead1 07-19-2009 10:18 AM

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Most of the NCs I smoke are bundles.

Famous Dominican 4000
Famous Nicaraguan 3000
Famous Honduran 5000
IT Super Fuerte bundles
La Floridita
Flor de Oliva Gold


There are lots of sub $2 gems out there. Ya just gotta look and take chances...and smoke quite a few dog rockets before finding the gems. :r

ZenSilk 07-19-2009 10:40 AM

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I got a bundle of unbranded perfectos from TNTcigars, for about 45 bucks. They ended up being pretty delicious. Not very consistent, because 2 of the 7 I have smoked were... revolting (harsh, soapy, acrid) but the others were creamy, spicy, a bit sweet and very chocolatey. I feel I got a good deal. ;)

Mr. Ed 07-19-2009 07:26 PM

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The Little Havana Overruns at Holt's are great. I would also recommend the Tropical Fever smokes from there as well. They only come in a thick robusto vitola, but if you're looking for a hearty Nicaraguan Puro, they're a great value.

punch54 07-19-2009 07:29 PM

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consuegras agreat buy or la finka cassadors

streetglide 07-19-2009 07:52 PM

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Well I'm sold. No sense in buying those highpriced $3 stick cigars, when I can be paying $2.50! :r

ripper 07-20-2009 03:10 PM

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I am a hound for Rocky Patel Classic 2nds from Famous Smoke Shop. Have been their customer since 1970. If this smokes like a 2nds, then I am Barnacle Bill The Sailor. They are scrumptious!
The 2nds are Rocky Patel The Edge in maduro or corojo:
http://www.famous-smoke.com/brand/rp...+maduro+cigars

The Poet 07-20-2009 03:18 PM

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Looks like tobii3 knows what I'm talkin' about - those Connies are a steal. :)

Dunkel 07-20-2009 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed (Post 471634)
The Little Havana Overruns at Holt's are great. I would also recommend the Tropical Fever smokes from there as well. They only come in a thick robusto vitola, but if you're looking for a hearty Nicaraguan Puro, they're a great value.

Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

ade06 07-20-2009 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 472781)
Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

A little Paranoid??? :r

The Poet 07-20-2009 03:52 PM

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Yeah, what's a little body fluid amongst friends? :dr

NCRadioMan 07-20-2009 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 472781)
Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

Typically, there are about 400 pairs of hands that touch the tobacco that goes into making cigars.

If you touch a public doorknob or money, you are touching the most filthy things in the world with more germs than imaginable. Does that freak you out too?

Dunkel 07-20-2009 05:14 PM

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My post was intended to be humorus. I guess with my lack of smilies and LOL's it came across as being paranoid or OCD like. (Tap Tap) Is this thing on? :confused:

SmokinApe 07-20-2009 05:36 PM

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They are cello'd...

Mr. Ed 07-20-2009 09:49 PM

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I personally wouldn't worry too much about things on the outside of the cigar. Plus, since the cello is added at the end of the process, I don't think it would make much of a difference between ones with it or without it.

I would be a lot more worried about strange things inside the cigar. I've read and heard about string, finger nails, splinters of wood. I even remember someone on here finding a rock/pebble in one of their cigars(but I think it was a 50-60 year old smoke though)

I have never gotten anything funky in any cigars I've smoked yet (keeping my fingers crossed while knocking on wood). As far as bundled smokes or over-runs go I don't think they'll have a greater chance of having anything strange inside or on the outside than regular production cigars, but they're cheaper and more of them are made so the probability does go up (minutely)

DoctorBJ 09-13-2009 06:15 AM

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I like "Original Cubans" for this kinda smoke. Great for a friend who says they want a smoke, but I know damn well they'll barely touch it. They're also great when I'll be boating or someplace where they're more likely to get messed up.

BlackDog 09-13-2009 09:59 AM

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I just got a bundle of Holts Little Havana Overruns. Should I let them age a bit before smoking, or are they good to go?

Wharf Rat 09-13-2009 04:27 PM

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The LHO IIIs I've gotten were fine after a few days resting from their trip. I'd tell you about aging but I'm smoking them too quick!:dr

vankleekkw 09-13-2009 04:35 PM

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I love the LHO, LHO Lights, LHO III, Famous Maduritos, C. Com (Brazilian, Corojo, Cuban, and Cameroon) for the budget minded.

BlackDog 09-13-2009 04:56 PM

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What Dominican bundle smoke do you guys like? Do Famous or Holts have a Dominican with some good flavor and 'body'?
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Mr. Ed 09-13-2009 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 547505)
What Dominican bundle smoke do you guys like? Do Famous or Holts have a Dominican with some good flavor and 'body'?
Posted via Mobile Device

La Aurora Leoninos at CI is a fantastic Dominican smoke with a corojo wrapper. They have a good flavor and are medium-bodied. This isn't a bundle or a second, but they are priced the same.

While we're at it. Magellan Dominicans are a nice small mil change of pace cigar. Smooth and pretty tasty considering they're at 55 cents per.

maverickdrinker 09-13-2009 05:15 PM

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ON the cuban side, Jose L Piedra Petit Cazadores

LHOs are great ROTT. Gotta slow down on these as I am firing them up way too quick.

Starscream 09-13-2009 06:05 PM

Re: Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 472810)
Typically, there are about 400 pairs of hands that touch the tobacco that goes into making cigars.

If you touch a public doorknob or money, you are touching the most filthy things in the world with more germs than imaginable. Does that freak you out too?

I know, but don't remind me, Greg...

maverickdrinker 09-15-2009 05:27 PM

Re: Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs
 
Just ordered 2 more bundles of the LHO coronas and 1 bundle of the robustos.

They are running out of the coronas. They estimate that they will be out of them in the next couple of weeks. You might want to pull the trigger if you were thinking of ordering them.

Chemyst 09-15-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs
 
I liked the Consuegra No. 9 maduros, and occasionally
buy the RP X-Outs Liga 'C' from the devil site. The
RPs are seconds of the Olde World Reserve, which are
some of my favs, but they need sleep for 6-12 mos.

Chemyst :cool2:

bookman 09-15-2009 08:33 PM

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La Aurora seconds cameroon can be bought for about $30 for 25 sticks. Try Holts.

Mr. Ed 09-15-2009 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bookman (Post 551659)
La Aurora seconds cameroon can be bought for about $30 for 25 sticks. Try Holts.

You can also get 30 for $35 at CI!:tu

bookman 09-15-2009 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed (Post 547511)
La Aurora Leoninos at CI is a fantastic Dominican smoke with a corojo wrapper. They have a good flavor and are medium-bodied. This isn't a bundle or a second, but they are priced the same.

While we're at it. Magellan Dominicans are a nice small mil change of pace cigar. Smooth and pretty tasty considering they're at 55 cents per.

True dat! These are amazing somokes @ about 25/$30 from CI. Oily and stronger than most Doms. For my $ any la Aurora second/ economy priced stick is better than a lot of premium smokes.

bookman 09-15-2009 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bookman (Post 551907)
True dat! These are amazing somokes @ about 25/$30 from CI. Oily and stronger than most Doms. For my $ any la Aurora second/ economy priced stick is better than a lot of premium smokes.

Mr. Ed. I'm a big la Aurora fan. I've got some maduro and cameroon perfectos would trade for other blends if interested PM me.

bookman 09-15-2009 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 547602)
I know, but don't remind me, Greg...

And think of all those un celloed sticks that get the nose treatment from finicky customers.:D

Tobacconists should pass out gloves and masks like they do in rare book rooms!:r

eboniknight 09-16-2009 03:45 PM

Re: Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth (Post 468933)
I primarily stock my humidor with lower-priced sticks like Perdomo Slow-aged or IT Super Fuerte, which I've found are as good or better than many "high end" smokes.
I take advantage of samplers or c bid to try out more expensive sticks.

Those Perdomo Slow-Aged are surprisingly good smokes......especially for the money. I've got 2 left resting in the humi right now.....time for a refill. :D

wayner123 09-16-2009 04:10 PM

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I have always enjoyed a good punch and the seconds of that the Consuegra is no exception. I used to smoke mainly seconds and bundles and it's hard to beat a Consuegra Natural or maduro.

I don't know if you have ever been to Lynn cigars, but they have pretty much every "seconds" cigar. And imo the Davidoff seconds bundles are a great deal if you like Davidoff. Same tobacco, less than half the price.

http://www.lynncigars.com/BrandList(short).html


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