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BryanB 05-01-2009 02:14 PM

How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I traded some cellophane to someone yesterday and it got me thinking, How/who puts the cigars into the cellophane after they are rolled? If you have ever tried this is no easy task. I tried to search but all the info I could find was about the rollers and alittle about the to person putting bands on. Anybody ever toured a factory and seen how? :hm

shortstory5 05-01-2009 02:49 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I'm not sure, but I think it depends on if they're going to a B&M or an online retailer...:r:r:r

BigCat 05-01-2009 02:50 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
That's a funny question. I've tried a couple of times to put a cigar back into celo and had no luck at all. Maybe its one of the virgins whose thighs the cigars are rolled on??? :ss

dentonparrots 05-01-2009 02:57 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I've worked in a couple of factories (not cigars though) and generally for that type of thing it is done by a machine, starting with a roll of cello and the cigar having it rolled around it, then folded and probably heat or adhesive to make the ends stick together.
I've seen biscuits and sweets being packaged in pretty much the same way but with non-clear, printed stuff and sealed at both ends obviously.

I'd have preffered to have worked with the virgins....

sodomanaz 05-01-2009 03:47 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by dentonparrots (Post 365546)
I've worked in a couple of factories (not cigars though) and generally for that type of thing it is done by a machine, starting with a roll of cello and the cigar having it rolled around it, then folded and probably heat or adhesive to make the ends stick together.
I've seen biscuits and sweets being packaged in pretty much the same way but with non-clear, printed stuff and sealed at both ends obviously.

I'd have preffered to have worked with the virgins....

I watched the CAO Seed to Soul DVD dvd a while back, and I believe this is done by hand as well. At least for them. If I remember correctly, before boxing someone has the task of putting them into the cellos, folding, then sending them off for boxing.

kelmac07 05-01-2009 03:50 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Oh...what a job!

BC-Axeman 05-01-2009 03:58 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I'm still thinking about the virgins.

BillyCigars 05-01-2009 05:06 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sodomanaz (Post 365578)
I watched the CAO Seed to Soul DVD dvd a while back, and I believe this is done by hand as well. At least for them. If I remember correctly, before boxing someone has the task of putting them into the cellos, folding, then sending them off for boxing.

:tpd:
That's exactly how its done. The person cello-ing the cigars is the one placing them into boxes.

ca21455 05-01-2009 05:13 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I think putting a cigar back in the cello is the same as trying to get something back into a box to ship it back. Once you remove something from a package it expands and will never go back...kinda like birth. :D

uncballzer 05-01-2009 05:31 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I'm thinking about wondering who this guy is that traded for the cello's! I've got a couple thousand cello's i'd trade for some padrons....well, I don't have them, but it'd be damn fun getting them, i'm sure I could get a thousand fairly quickly....oh, and also thinking about the virgins.......:dr

ucla695 05-01-2009 09:52 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
It's dayum hard. Even if you don't take them off all the way. :bh

Hardcz 05-02-2009 04:27 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
You guys are wrong... virgins are no fun, it's the woman who's been around a few times that knows what you want....

*grumbles about them damn virgins*

dentonparrots 05-02-2009 05:00 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by Hardcz (Post 366045)
You guys are wrong... virgins are no fun, it's the woman who's been around a few times that knows what you want....

Fat girls try harder :tu

adampc22 05-02-2009 05:20 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
i have tryed and to get cigars back in there cellophane a few times i have got them in most most of the time i fail or brake the bloody cigars

leasingthisspace 05-02-2009 05:33 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I have wondered about doing this myself. I think the cello is softer when the cigar is placed in there at first. I mean it is plant based right? Maybe when the cigar company gets them they are still soft like plastic and over time the cello dries out making it stiff. Maybe the humidity amount that is found in a humi (between 60-70%) is not high enough to keep the cello soft and easy to remove and play on cigars?
Have you ever had a cigar that had cello and was aged? The humidity levels are great for the cigars but the cello will slowly dry out and become crunchy?

This is all guessing though because I don't have any knowledge of old cigars and their cello. Maybe someone with that knowledge could speak up on the matter.

JJG 05-02-2009 07:41 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I'm thinking it's one of those things that probably gets easier with practice. I mean, the people who do it for a living get hours and hours of practice. Most of us probably haven't put much time into trying.

leasingthisspace 05-02-2009 07:54 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by leasingthisspace (Post 366071)
I have wondered about doing this myself. I think the cello is softer when the cigar is placed in there at first. I mean it is plant based right? Maybe when the cigar company gets them they are still soft like plastic and over time the cello dries out making it stiff. Maybe the humidity amount that is found in a humi (between 60-70%) is not high enough to keep the cello soft and easy to remove and play on cigars?
Have you ever had a cigar that had cello and was aged? The humidity levels are great for the cigars but the cello will slowly dry out and become crunchy?

This is all guessing though because I don't have any knowledge of old cigars and their cello. Maybe someone with that knowledge could speak up on the matter.

So after I posted this I went to stash a grabbed a cello off a cigar. It was stiff and crackly. Just like they always are. I grabbed a cup with some water in it and began soaking half of it in the water. I just went and grabbed it out and it was soft as a piece of latex minus the strechiness. It soaked for about 2 1/2 hours. So with that being said I am pretty sure that when the cigar are put in them they are softer and the cigar goes right in. So how would we make them soft after the fact to be able to reuse them? Maybe a ziplock with a little container of water in it. Or instead a ziplock a tupperware container with a small bowl of water so that the cello can draw in as much water as it wanted to without exactly touching the water. You know if you were trying to do that sort of thing.:2

Commander Quan 05-02-2009 08:26 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Instead of water, what about heating them up? Try using a blow dryer or a heat lamp

leasingthisspace 05-02-2009 08:36 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 366202)
Instead of water, what about heating them up? Try using a blow dryer or a heat lamp

Maybe that would work but I think because it is plant based that would just dry it out more and make it stiffer.

TBone 05-02-2009 08:55 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I have no Idea but I like the scientific experiment that leasingthisspace did and then using Commander Quan's idea of using a blow dryer to help shrink it around the cigar.


But what do I know I'm still a newb.

Emjaysmash 05-02-2009 09:31 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Cigar Cellophaning and boxing-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6liCv_qSus&NR=1

shortstory5 05-02-2009 09:38 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 366283)

Seems soooo simple...

leasingthisspace 05-02-2009 09:40 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Sweet. Thanks MJ

flat6nut 05-03-2009 09:48 AM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
I just blow on the open end of the celo and they slide right back in.

AriesOpusX 05-03-2009 12:53 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flat6nut (Post 367182)
I just blow on the open end of the celo and they slide right back in.


I was just about to post this but :tpd: no problem at all if you inflate it a little.

BryanB 05-03-2009 06:12 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 366283)

Nice. If only I had tried the wrist snap I would have known.

BC-Axeman 05-03-2009 07:25 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flat6nut (Post 367182)
I just blow on the open end of the celo and they slide right back in.

I'm thinking about virgins doing this....:p

huero71 05-04-2009 08:29 PM

Re: How/Who put the cigars in cellophane?
 
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Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 367772)
I'm thinking about virgins doing this....:p

:tpd: YES! :tu


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