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JimmyPeaches 04-29-2009 06:52 PM

Flip-Flop Restaurants!
 
Tonight, my room mate and I were greeted very rudely at the Hooters in Denton, TX with the statement of, "You can't smoke those in here."

I have been to this same restaurant at least 5 times within the last three weeks, 2 or 3 times with cigars in my hand or already lit when I entered.

I approached the manager about this sudden change in policy and the obviously fabricated lines that were presented to me by a waitress.

My favorite: "Some people might be allergic to cigar smoke."

The manager assured me that he would have an answer for me the next time I visit.... I tried not to laugh.

Has any other BOTL/SOTL had a problem at Hooters or other chain restaurants not knowing their own policies?

white_s2k 04-29-2009 07:01 PM

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I actually had the opposite experience at Twin Peaks (same "idea" as Hooters) in Plano, TX this past weekend. First time eating there, went in with 2 cigars in my pocket to enjoy after the Mavs game. (Can't smoke inside the restaurant though) Waitress grabs my cigars out of my pocket and says "I'll be right back.. I'm not taking them I promise!". Comes back 5 minutes later and says the manager is a fan of cigars and wants to try the Cubao I had on me.. and was going to comp $30 worth of food and beer if I agreed. I did the simple math and $30 > $6 cigar.. so I agreed, he later came over and we had a nice conversation.

Not exactly what your question was pertaining to.. but I think it shows every establishment can be different. It certainly sounds like the waitress just didn't know WTH she was taking about.

mikeyj23 04-29-2009 07:06 PM

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I've smoked cigars in Denton Hooters on several occasions - odd that they changed their policy.

SmokinCozy 04-29-2009 07:08 PM

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I live in CA so I would get that response no matter where I went. :mad:

chippewastud79 04-29-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyPeaches (Post 362436)
My favorite: "Some people might be allergic to cigar smoke."

Thats an amazing excuse. :bh

It always astonishes me that places allow cigarettes and not cigars or pipes, particularly lounges. If you are going to allow something that has been 'proven to be dangerous' not only the people smoking them but also others, why not allow cigars/pipes which are far less 'dangerous' and have a smell that is far less offensive? :confused:

JimmyPeaches 04-29-2009 07:08 PM

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Well, one of my more preferred waitresses there told me that one in particular had an attitude problem, but when the manager could not an answer a yes/no question, that's what made it really ridiculous.

chippewastud79 04-29-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyPeaches (Post 362486)
Well, one of my more preferred waitresses there told me that one in particular had an attitude problem, but when the manager could not an answer a yes/no question, that's what made it really ridiculous.

Did you light them anyway? Also, I would call the store right now and ask if they allow cigars and pipes and see what they say over the phone. :2:rolleyes:

JimmyPeaches 04-29-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 362474)
I've smoked cigars in Denton Hooters on several occasions - odd that they changed their policy.

So have I, last Friday a guy walked past my table and told me that I just made him remember that he left his cigars in the truck, so in 10 minutes there were 2 tables smoking cigars with no issues.

elderboy02 04-29-2009 07:17 PM

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I have never had a problem smoking cigars at Hooters. Hell, we have even had a HERF at the one in Newport, KY back in November.

Skywalker 04-29-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy (Post 362483)
I live in CA so I would get that response no matter where I went. :mad:

Yeah! We can only dream about smoking in a restaurant!

BC-Axeman 04-29-2009 10:22 PM

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I can't remember when...

MedicCook 04-29-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy (Post 362483)
I live in CA so I would get that response no matter where I went. :mad:

Same thing here in New York.

groogs 04-29-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy (Post 362483)
I live in CA so I would get that response no matter where I went. :mad:

:tpd::(

rizzle 04-30-2009 08:09 AM

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Ain't happening in Florida bro. Although I must say I usually don't go to Hoots to smoke.;)

The Professor 04-30-2009 08:18 AM

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Can't wait to be in Denton soon. :D I wouldn't be caught dead in Hooters; but there are plenty of other places to smoke.... :ss

ade06 04-30-2009 08:23 AM

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When I lived in Charlotte, NC. We could smoke at Hooters. The girls tended to frown upon it (even the ones who smoked cigarettes), but it was allowed. If the girls were hot (most of them were not) we would smoke the smaller cigars to be polite.

goalie204 04-30-2009 08:25 AM

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no smoking anywhere indoor business here in my province in Canada, so enjoy it while you can :)

OLS 04-30-2009 08:35 AM

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Blue Monkey, Memphis....85 people in there smoking and the guy comes over to me at the pool tables
and says..."I am not asking you to leave, but if anyone complains, I am going to have to ask you to leave.
We don't allow cigar smoking in here." SO I told him not to worry, he would never see me again. And he hasn't.
But he backpedaled and bowed and scraped about his qualification: no one had yet complained.
I told him I wasn't about to wait it out, I was either welcome in his estab or not...which was it? Like I
was going to stub out a Partagas Lonsdale cabinet sel. for his punk ass.

OLS 04-30-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363235)
Can't wait to be in Denton soon. :D I wouldn't be caught dead in Hooters; but there are plenty of other places to smoke.... :ss

Sweetest girl I ever knew was from Denton..Helen Culp. But when I lost
last weekend town priveleges in boot camp, I failed to meet her as planned
and she never spoke to me again. And I could not call her to tell her I was
being disciplined. ROMANTIC TRAGEDY.

jledou 04-30-2009 08:58 AM

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Although not a popular response, they at least made their own decision to not allow cigar smoking and were not forced to by the government. It was a free decision and now they will have to face the consequences. Just like we are still free to make the decision to eat their or not depending on how we feel about it.

Nothing personal, but we always complain about not allowing business owners to make their own choices but we also complain if they do make their own choices and they are not in our favor.

Just a thought...

Dukeuni 04-30-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jledou (Post 363285)
Although not a popular response, they at least made their own decision to not allow cigar smoking and were not forced to by the government. It was a free decision and now they will have to face the consequences. Just like we are still free to make the decision to eat their or not depending on how we feel about it.

I agree with this statement, but I also think it is a decision that should be phased into businesses. Start posting signs a month before saying that the restaurants policy in regards to smoking will be changing on a certain date, etc. Heck, if I had planned on watching a basketball game with some fine cigars and great wings, and then to have that shot down at the last second, I would be frustrated.

But you are right, at least it was the business that was making this decision and not the government. Let the market decide which businesses want to allow smokers.

shortstory5 04-30-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy (Post 362483)
I live in CA so I would get that response no matter where I went. :mad:

Tis the trend that's killing us all...

jledou 04-30-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dukeuni (Post 363372)
I agree with this statement, but I also think it is a decision that should be phased into businesses. Start posting signs a month before saying that the restaurants policy in regards to smoking will be changing on a certain date, etc. Heck, if I had planned on watching a basketball game with some fine cigars and great wings, and then to have that shot down at the last second, I would be frustrated.

But you are right, at least it was the business that was making this decision and not the government. Let the market decide which businesses want to allow smokers.

100% agree that it would have been nice to know that it was coming!

mikeyj23 04-30-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363235)
Can't wait to be in Denton soon. :D I wouldn't be caught dead in Hooters; but there are plenty of other places to smoke.... :ss

you'd be surprised. it's kind of dismal.
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JimmyPeaches 04-30-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukeuni (Post 363372)
I agree with this statement, but I also think it is a decision that should be phased into businesses. Start posting signs a month before saying that the restaurants policy in regards to smoking will be changing on a certain date, etc. Heck, if I had planned on watching a basketball game with some fine cigars and great wings, and then to have that shot down at the last second, I would be frustrated.

But you are right, at least it was the business that was making this decision and not the government. Let the market decide which businesses want to allow smokers.

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Originally Posted by jledou (Post 363428)
100% agree that it would have been nice to know that it was coming!

There was no business decision behind it, just some whiny waitress that couldn't even come up with a feasible excuse who had a manager that doesn't know what the business decision is.

cbsmokin 04-30-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363235)
Can't wait to be in Denton soon. :D I wouldn't be caught dead in Hooters; but there are plenty of other places to smoke.... :ss

For the last time Dokk, the patrons (you) are not allowed to wear orange shorts and a tank top into hooters. Just get over it.

loki 04-30-2009 12:50 PM

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there is only one place i go to that doesn't allow pipes/cigars. if i know they don't allow pipe or cigar smoking but they allow cigs I tell them to get bent and never go back. One of my local b&m's doesn't allow cigs. such a nice place

The Professor 04-30-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 363464)
you'd be surprised. it's kind of dismal.
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Coming from IL where you can't smoke inside or 15ft from doors, Denton will be a step up. :D

kaelaria 04-30-2009 02:01 PM

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We can't smoke anywhere indoors here, but the local Hooters have no problems with them on the deck areas.

icehog3 04-30-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363235)
I wouldn't be caught dead in Hooters

Por que?

icehog3 04-30-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OLS (Post 363269)
Sweetest girl I ever knew was from Denton..Helen Culp. But when I lost
last weekend town priveleges in boot camp, I failed to meet her as planned
and she never spoke to me again. And I could not call her to tell her I was
being disciplined. ROMANTIC TRAGEDY.

Sounds like an "Andy Griffith Show" episode, Brad. :)

The Professor 04-30-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 363860)
Por que?

Honestly? I would be absolutely MORTIFIED if I ran into a student. At the end of the day, Denton's a small town....

I'll go to Hooters in Chicago, though, Admiral :r

icehog3 04-30-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363881)
Honestly? I would be absolutely MORTIFIED if I ran into a student. At the end of the day, Denton's a small town....

I'll go to Hooters in Chicago, though, Admiral :r

Hooters is completely tame....I go there with buddies who bring their wife and kids.

And maybe those students would be the mortified ones! ;)

The Professor 04-30-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 363898)
Hooters is completely tame....I go there with buddies who bring their wife and kids.

And maybe those students would be the mortified ones! ;)

I'd still be mortified. :r

mikeyj23 04-30-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363906)
I'd still be mortified. :r

I WENT to hooters on several occasions with professors. . .
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icehog3 04-30-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363906)
I'd still be mortified. :r

I guess it doesn't have the same stigma here, I see families and couples in there all the time.

The Professor 04-30-2009 02:59 PM

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Maybe it's just because I've never been there. :hm

Tom ... will you pop my Hooter hymen? :r

kaelaria 04-30-2009 03:01 PM

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Uh, hooters is not ANY big deal as far as that goes - I guess a small town might object to it or something. If you want HOT girls you go to Tilted Kilt!

icehog3 04-30-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363922)
Maybe it's just because I've never been there. :hm

Tom ... will you pop my Hooter hymen? :r

We can definitely hit the Hooters next time you are up here....we can even see if there is one just over the WI border so we can smoke inside, and get Jim, Sam, Rob, Perry, Tony, Scott, Sean, Dave and whoever else to meet us.

JimmyPeaches 04-30-2009 03:07 PM

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yup...

icehog3 04-30-2009 03:09 PM

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yup...

As about 95% of the threads here do.....gotta learn to roll with it, and steer it back in the direction you want. ;)

JimmyPeaches 04-30-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 363946)
As about 95% of the threads here do.....gotta learn to roll with it, and steer it back in the direction you want. ;)

that's pretty standard for any forum, but i thought i would make the thread useful with pictures :D

Whee 04-30-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 363933)
We can definitely hit the Hooters next time you are up here....we can even see if there is one just over the WI border so we can smoke inside, and get Jim, Sam, Rob, Perry, Tony, Scott, Sean, Dave and whoever else to meet us.


What time should I plan to be there?:D

Starscream 05-01-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 363922)
Tom ... will you pop my Hooter hymen? :r

You two need to get a room.:pu



:D

icehog3 05-01-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 365482)
You two need to get a room.:pu



:D

Just a table will work. :)

Starscream 05-01-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 365506)
Just a table will work. :)

:D:tu
Remind me not to be there for that one.;)

icehog3 05-01-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 365518)
:D:tu
Remind me not to be there for that one.;)

That's cool, Dokk and I can smoke 3 Dunhills between the 2 of us. ;)

The Professor 05-01-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 365524)
That's cool, Dokk and I can smoke 3 Dunhills between the 2 of us. ;)

Rad! :wo

Starscream 05-01-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 365544)
Rad! :wo

Dunhills = :tu
hymen stretching between Dokk and the Admiral = :al


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