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Anybody going to a tea party tomorrow? Still see the mainstream media does not cover this.

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I have to work.

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I hear there's a big one in Cincy tomorrow.

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Looks like Texas may secede from the union.

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I wanted to, but then I looked at my schedule and saw that I have an exam from 6:30-8:30, and then I get to come home and finish my f#$!ing taxes...
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I kinda wish the South would try it again sometimes(minus any and all racial issues). NY and CA have this country in check.

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:tpd: :tpd: :tpd:

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No tea party but there is a cigar tax dinner Im going to.

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Going to a Tea Party in Walnut Creek tomorrow. I wonder how many people are going to be there as it's not one of the big ones. Should be interesting either way.

Oh, and from one of the states with the worst government imaginable, I say GO TEXAS! :tu

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I'll be with all of them in spirit! I understand Homeland Security is warning about the "radicals" meeting at the various tea parties! People with kids and grandkids should be very worried about what America will look like in 20 or so years.(If it is even called "America" then!)

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The day they do is the day I move to Texas :tu

Chas

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I got an extra room Chas. And with your woodworking skills, you could probably just build an additional house on to the property :D

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I think the nearest one is Chicago which I won't be able to make

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A non partisan one today with expected 2 to 3k people at a restaurant (Its going to be a mad house), then the big one on Friday night put on by young republicans (top republican house rep running for governor is already posting his speech because he will get booed off for voting for bailout). I'll be at both. Bring your video cameras as Acorn has already vandalized the restaurant and will be trying to start something.

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I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state...

Yup.

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Didn't realize how many were going on in MD. Have to work so no tea party for me.

Here is the website that lists all the locations and details.
http://taxdayteaparty.com/

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:wo I am so glad this took off. Ought to send a pretty clear message :dance:

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You Might Be a "Radicalized Right-Wing Extremist" If…
by Michelle Malkin

What and who exactly are President Obama's homeland security officials afraid of these days? If you are a member of an active conservative group that opposes abortion, favors strict immigration enforcement, lobbies to protect Second Amendment rights, protests big government, advocates federalism or represents veterans who believe in any of the above, the answer is: You.

Department of Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano has turned her attention away from acts of Islamic jihad on American soil (which she now refers to as "man-caused disasters"). Instead, her department is sounding the alarm over an unquantified "resurgence" in "right-wing extremism activity." On April 7, DHS sent a nine-page warning memo to law enforcement offices across the country titled "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."

The report includes a sweeping definition of the threat:

"Right-wing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

You cannot ignore the context or the timing of this DHS report. It's no small coincidence that Napolitano's agency disseminated the assessment just a week before the nationwide April 15 Tax Day Tea Party protests. The grassroots events organized by fiscal conservatives, independents, Libertarians and, yes, even some Blue Dog Democrats were fueled by the "current economic and political climate" of bipartisan profligate spending and endless taxpayer-funded bailouts. The growing success of the loose-knit movement has invited scorn, ridicule and fear-mongering from Obama's supporters. Liberal bloggers have likened the Tea Party movement to neo-Nazis, militias and even Weather Underground terrorists.

These attempts to demonize the Tea Party movement come on the heels of widespread conservative-bashing over the recent shooting sprees in Pittsburgh and Binghamton, N.Y. Taking Hillary Clinton's advice to "never waste a good crisis," left-wing pundits and analysts have blamed the tragedies on everyone from Rush Limbaugh to Fox News to the NRA.

The DHS spokespeople I talked to on Monday insisted that the report was not a politicized document and that DHS had done similar assessments on "left-wing extremism" in the past. But past domestic terrorism reports have always been very specific in identifying security threats -- such as the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front -- and very specific in identifying their methods and targets, including repeated physical harassment, arson and vandalism against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs and university researchers.

By contrast, the Obama DHS report is an overarching indictment of conservatives. "Right-wing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures," the assessment warns. When I asked DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban to explain who was responsible for this "extremist chatter," she could not and would not name names.

Moreover, the report relies on the work of the left-leaning Southern Poverty Law Center to stir anxiety over "disgruntled military veterans" -- a citation that gives us valuable insight into how DHS will define "hate-oriented" groups. The SPLC, you see, has designated the venerable American Legion a "hate group" for its stance on immigration enforcement. The report offers zero data, but states with an almost resentful attitude toward protected free speech: "Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent."

"Potential to turn violent"? So did the hysterical fervor whipped up by Capitol Hill over the AIG bonuses, which prompted ugly death threats from across the country. No mention here, though. Not "right wing" enough. Nor will you see Obama DHS warnings to police and sheriff's departments about self-proclaimed bank terrorists such as Bruce Marks of the aggressive Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America or the mob activists of ACORN who have committed burglary, stormed corporate executives' homes and vowed to conduct "civil disobedience" by "any means necessary" in response to the "current economic and political climate."

If you can redefine dissenting opinion as "hate," you can brand your political opponents as "extremists" -- and you can marginalize electoral threats. "Antigovernment"? "Pro-enforcement"? "Disgruntled"? Feeling taxed enough already and "recruiting" and "radicalizing" your friends and neighbors through "chatter on the Internet"?

We are all right-wing extremists now. Welcome to the club.

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Since when was wanting the Constitution followed "radical". The last time was when it was written.
I'm going to one in Santa Cruz or San Jose. Maybe both. I have to lose money to do it. I have never done a protest before.
My next protest will be a John Galt type of strike.

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federal bldg at noon, James, your google-fu sucks, get on it.

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I will be attending

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im going to commit arson in honor of the tea parties.... to a nice fat cigar tonight!!

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I'll be at Kiener Plaza in St. Louis for our Tea Party. Then off to a bar for a smoke and the NHL Playoffs!!

Kiener Plaza, STL:
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Kiener Plaza, STL:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1938

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I'm not sure that will make a statement to those that should get a message, but to each his Peter Principle own...

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:tpd: Sounds like a great plan!

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I brought a Taboo SFO Lancero to smoke. I think it's illegal to smoke (except pot) in Santa Cruz. Maybe they will use that as an excuse to persecute me.

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So, how did the tea parties go over today?

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I had to work, some has to earn all the money they are going to tax me on....
Being in Oklahoma I feel that if Texas secedes then we won't be far behind.

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Wish I could have gone to today's, but I've got another couple months of working before I can take a day off....just so I can pay my tax bill.

We're having another on Saturday, to protest the state (as many know, NY is a royal hell hole). Most likely I'm going to pull a Rush Limbaugh and get the f out of NY once my latest contract is up.

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Someone fill me in on all this talk of Texas seceding from the union. Is there some sort of movement in talks? I know that there's a movement in California to split it in two, but it's never been taken seriously.

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Just talk. Ain't gonna happen. We already fought a bloody civil war. Sounds good- BUT- ain't gonna happen!

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(Don't be fooled by my above comment)
Let it be known that I am a proud American, but there are times that I want to say fugg it.

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Heard a good idea at a tea party yesterday. SC, Texas, Louisiana, Alaska all have state bills up for votes called the 'Sovereignty Bills'. In effect they state that that the federal government only has certain rights given by the constitution and all other rights are given to the states. If passed this would allow these states to take all the federal mandates and say 'forget you to the federal government'. The choice then would be if the federal government wished to push the states to follow their guides (and cause a backlash) or just give in. This could include taxes raised for roads, schools, ect not being collected with state protection for the citizens.

Be interesting to see where this goes especially if 20 other states jump on board.....

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I had a grant due so I was stuck at work, but I did throw some tea into a garbage can. I'm glad people are not letting this ridiculous bailout slide. The tax situation in this country is getting out of hand really fast.

I'd like Phil Gramm, Tom Harkin, Bill Clinton and others who sponsored, voted for or signed the garbage (Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000) that caused this mess to give all of their $ to people who are being affected by the banking crisis. Maybe we can call it a special tax on stupidity? Seriously ... if you create laws that have negative consequences, should we be letting those responsible slide?

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I certainly would have if I didn't have to work a double. :(

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Many states have balanced budget amendments and there is no reason the Federal government could not have the same or similar constraints put upon it with allowances for national security etc. built in.

Why do we never hear about employees of federal, state and local governments taking cuts? The wage and benefits comparison has changed pretty radically in the past 10 years in comparison to the private sector. Forcing this issue would also put pressure on lawmakers from a different perspective.... the 30% of people in this country who are employed by one of these entities.

When you add the 30% to those who get benefits from the government you have a voting majority i.e. employees + beneficiaries = a voting block that can keep electing folks who preserve their place at the trough to be fed by tax $$. Not a good sign for the future.

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Someone mentioned it at the Tea Party in San Antonio. Glenn Beck was being interviewed by Sean Hannity on Hannity's show last night. Glenn then said "I don't know about all that" but the crowd was cheering. Glen later said Texans love America and he believes that Texas just does "America" best, meaning the most true to the original American ideals/principals. The crown cheered again and chanted USA.

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The governor of Texas not only signed the bill but called out Obama publicly. It's about time someone stood up to the illegal pressure the feds put on state legislature. The fed can't force the states to pass laws outside the constitution so they withhold federal tax money until the states comply. It's total BS and illegal. Federal Congressmen and Senators who pass such laws should be imprisoned.

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Sorry for a third straight post, but these Tea Parties look to me like the beginning of a serious conservative movement.

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Hmm .... intelligent taxation and spending of federal money doesn't appear to sit on one side of the conservative-liberal continuum to me. You can talk about tax and spend liberals if you wish, but we have certainly seen our fill of borrow and spend conservatives in the last few years. Both are wrong. By politicizing the push to have our elected representatives use our tax money intelligently, we decrease the opportunity to make a change in DC. I'm just happy to see people spit up at the size and scope of this bailout, who they vote for doesn't interest me.

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Well I disagree, sort of, but let me preface that with this: I believe both the Democratic and Republican parties are taking us on a path to socialism. One is walking and the other is running.

I used to think of myself as a Republican but I don't anymore. I consider myself a conservative. There are Republicans who like to tax and spend, but they by definition cannot be called conservatives.

I don't want to turn this into any kind of us vs them rant or thread. I'm just glad to see people rejecting big government and big taxation. Rejecting these two things is IMO conservative. That's all I meant.

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Gotcha.

The thing about being fiscally conservative is that its simply the smart thing to do. Oh, the bums getting handouts may disagree, but the people paying for this mess certainly have better things to spend their money on than bailing out the lazy, the stupid, and the reckless.

I know I do ... and I'm pretty sure you do too.

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I have a wife and 2 kids of my own I have to support. I can't afford to support (as Ted Nugent calls them) pimps, whores, and welfare brats. Don't get me wrong I have an uncle who is physically disabled and can barely move around. I have no problem with a program to help assist people like him. Most Americans probably wouldn't either. That's not what we're talking about here.

It's about responsibility. Personal and corporate responsibility. Welfare and programs like it circumvent personal responsibility. Bailouts circumvent corporate responsibility. Government loans are a little different. I'm not a fan, but I understand the idea. I'm a little more open to it when a company's international competition get government subsidised loans and don't pay for healthcare costs.

That said, I'm am conservative socially and fiscally. I believe the majority of our country is middle of the road or even somewhat liberal socially, but I believe most Americans are fiscally conservative. This puts most of them into Libertarian territory. Unfortunately the Libertarian party has some really bad platforms they need to drop/fix before they get any serious considerations from the masses. It's too bad because I'd sure vote for a Libertarian before I'd vote for a social and fiscally liberal candidate. Anyway, now I'm rambling...

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very well put..... could not have said it better. :tu

The last 8 year (6 of which the republicans had 2 branches of government) were the preamble to what is going on now. So its a tax, borrow, and spend issue not a party issue.

“Principled compromise is the lifeblood of democracy and those who seek principled compromise to advance their state and their nation are doing what the voters want,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC). WTF, compromising your principals is what has gotten us into this mess.

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I attended a Tea Party last night. The news reported that a few hundred people were in attendance. Sadly this was severely understated....there were about 6K in attendance. Talk about a liberal biased media.

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Contrast the dinosaur media's coverage of the illegal marches last year to the tea parties. Tells you all you need to know!

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Great Point!!! I forgot about that.

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Preach it brother!

My brother in law went last night, and I was going to go as well, but volleyball was calling my name. Played well, the wife gave me 'the look' and motioned for me to slow down my serve when a woman's nose was nearly/probably bloodied. Woops :D

Anyway, he said it was a great event and was pleased to see so many turun out (West Palm Beach, FL).
Today he IM'd a couple links,
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/1...f-tea-parties/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WQbNaXJ8Pw
What liberal media bias? :r Someone did some serious digging to find the footage in the second clip.

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http://pamssmiles.com/images/Childrens_Tea_Party.jpg

I went and it was very inspirational