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kzm007 04-06-2009 04:20 AM

Shaving Facial Hair
 
Dunno why I didn't think to ask this earlier, years earlier.

How do you go about shaving the remnants of a mustache from the corners of your mouth? I'm using a Gillette Fusion, and I've been baffled since I started at 12 lol.

Gentlemen, I thank you -

Kegan

The Professor 04-06-2009 04:29 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
I'm into traditional wet shaving. I have a boar's brush (only thing available locally when I needed a brush), good shave cream (using Tayloy of Old Bond rose cream at the moment), and a double-edge "safety" razor with good blades (I've found Japanese Feather blades to work best on my beard).

On an average day, I'll do 2-3 passes: 1 x with the grain and 2 x across the grain

On a pampering day I'll seek a bbs: 1 x with, 1 x across (right to left), 1 x across (left to right), 1 x against, touch-ups as needed

With the right hydration, later, and technique, you'll find all those trouble spots disappear. :)

kzm007 04-06-2009 04:43 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 322611)
I'm into traditional wet shaving. I have a boar's brush (only thing available locally when I needed a brush), good shave cream (using Tayloy of Old Bond rose cream at the moment), and a double-edge "safety" razor with good blades (I've found Japanese Feather blades to work best on my beard).

On an average day, I'll do 2-3 passes: 1 x with the grain and 2 x across the grain

On a pampering day I'll seek a bbs: 1 x with, 1 x across (right to left), 1 x across (left to right), 1 x against, touch-ups as needed

With the right hydration, later, and technique, you'll find all those trouble spots disappear. :)

As for shave cream, I'm using the rest of my mother's Envi :rolleyes:, and I do have a handful of Burma-Shave cakes, a brush, and a mug - it just takes too long any more, but I'll get back into it someday.

I don't want to have to buy a new razor. And may I ask what bbs stands for? I figure if I just shave repeatedly, gently, in every direction, I'll get it eventually.

Thanks for the reply -

Kegan

The Professor 04-06-2009 04:47 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
You've got to go in order -- that's key: with, across, (optional second across,) and against. if you just randomly go at it, you're gonna miss spots, get nicks, get razor burn, etc.

light is right; but stricter technique is key. :tu

ps, BBS = baby's bottom shave
pps, badgerandblade.com is awesome

Cigary 04-06-2009 06:49 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
I can't remember as I have had my mustache for over 25 years and remember why I grew it,,,I hate shaving that area.

md4958 04-06-2009 07:02 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Gillete Fusion razor.
Silver-tip shaving brush.
Pre-shave oil
Art of Shaving shaving cream for sensitive skin.
After shave balm


After a hot shower I apply the oil all over the shaving area. Foam up brush liberally with cream and apply. The shaving brush is almost like a little massage for your face, and the silver tip is so soft that it just feels great and makes the tedious chore of shaving that much more plesant for me.

Shave with the grain with light pressure starting with my sideburns and cheeks.

Neck comes next, again with the grain.

Under the nose is taken care of with the single blade portion of the Fusion, the rest of the moustache area is take care of by the 5blade side

The chin area I leave for last so that the foam has time to soften the stubble that much more.

Any missed spots I dab on some more foam and shave across the grain.

Rinse with warm water, then with cool water to close the pores

Apply after shave balm

I get most of my supplies from the Art of Shaving. I have very sensitve skin on my face and get razor burn very easily, espically on my neck. Yeah, some of the stuff I buy is a little pricey, but I feel its worth it to not have razor burn and ingrown hair.


Here are thier tips for a perfect shave
http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6...php?trk=header

Skywalker 04-06-2009 07:16 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigary (Post 322685)
I can't remember as I have had my mustache for over 25 years and remember why I grew it,,,I hate shaving that area.

:tpd: I hate shaving under my bottom lip as well that's why I have a goatee!!!

Hardcz 04-06-2009 07:21 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
MACH 3 ALL THE WAY!!! Fusion sucks....

When I last shaved my stash a few years back, I shaved down towards my lips, then at all angles. I sometimes use shaving creme, but not often for those areas on the face. Neck is where I need that.

Commander Quan 04-06-2009 07:51 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Whats the problem that you have shaving that area?

If you can't get is smooth, try shaving 1. down, 2.in from the outsides, 3. up from the bottom. This is one of the spots that is notorious for the hair growing in different directions. And shaving in different directions will help catch all of it.

If it seams to be to sensitive and you get razor burn or ingrown hairs, try shaving just down. With the fusion you have 2 things working against you here. The giant head is difficult to fit in tight spots like under the nose so you have to press pretty hard and, the lifting and cutting motion that all the blades are supposed to make can really cause more ingrown hairs.

tobii3 04-06-2009 09:46 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
well, AFTER you go through Puberty, your hair thickness will increase.

For right now, just drink your milk and let your cat drink the milk mustache off...along with your peach fuzz....

:r

WildBlueSooner 04-06-2009 10:44 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 322903)
well, AFTER you go through Puberty, your hair thickness will increase.

For right now, just drink your milk and let your cat drink the milk mustache off...along with your peach fuzz....

:r

:r
I rock this style so it is kind of hard to shave the stache

http://miasmaticreview.mu.nu/mt-stat...s/Mustache.JPG

MedicCook 04-06-2009 10:45 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
I just hate shaving.

mosesbotbol 04-06-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 322698)
I get most of my supplies from the Art of Shaving.
http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6...php?trk=header

Art of Shaving make nice products.

I use their 3 step products too and like them. I also use that blue Kiehls aftershare toner before the AoS lavender balm.

mhailey 04-06-2009 11:38 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
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nice badger brush, some Mama Bear's shaving soap (sandalwood vanilla), and my Tiger Straightedge. Slow and steady, and enjoy shaving like a man.

Matt

AllOGistics 04-06-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 322611)
I'm into traditional wet shaving. I have a boar's brush (only thing available locally when I needed a brush), good shave cream (using Tayloy of Old Bond rose cream at the moment), and a double-edge "safety" razor with good blades (I've found Japanese Feather blades to work best on my beard).

:tpd:

I started using traditional wet shaving after I got tired of razor burn and pulled hairs. I found the single blade (after I got the technique) easier to get a much cleaner shave. I use a Merkur with both Feather and Swedish Gillette blades. I got my boars hair brush from Art of Shaving. It took a little practice, but now, it's quick and works great.

I didn't realize there were some fans of the badger and blade on the board.

hova45 04-06-2009 02:21 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 322698)
Gillete Fusion razor.
Silver-tip shaving brush.
Pre-shave oil
Art of Shaving shaving cream for sensitive skin.
After shave balm


After a hot shower I apply the oil all over the shaving area. Foam up brush liberally with cream and apply. The shaving brush is almost like a little massage for your face, and the silver tip is so soft that it just feels great and makes the tedious chore of shaving that much more plesant for me.

Shave with the grain with light pressure starting with my sideburns and cheeks.

Neck comes next, again with the grain.

Under the nose is taken care of with the single blade portion of the Fusion, the rest of the moustache area is take care of by the 5blade side

The chin area I leave for last so that the foam has time to soften the stubble that much more.

Any missed spots I dab on some more foam and shave across the grain.

Rinse with warm water, then with cool water to close the pores

Apply after shave balm

I get most of my supplies from the Art of Shaving. I have very sensitve skin on my face and get razor burn very easily, espically on my neck. Yeah, some of the stuff I buy is a little pricey, but I feel its worth it to not have razor burn and ingrown hair.


Here are thier tips for a perfect shave
http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6...php?trk=header

I love this place I got atleast 3 times a month to get a royal shave there. Man I love their products and I get razor bumps and razor burn easily, but with their products and following their instructions i am good. Also Khiels has some amazing stuff.

TRicker 04-06-2009 02:27 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 322698)
Gillete Fusion razor.
Silver-tip shaving brush.
Pre-shave oil
Art of Shaving shaving cream for sensitive skin.
After shave balm


After a hot shower I apply the oil all over the shaving area. Foam up brush liberally with cream and apply. The shaving brush is almost like a little massage for your face, and the silver tip is so soft that it just feels great and makes the tedious chore of shaving that much more plesant for me.

Shave with the grain with light pressure starting with my sideburns and cheeks.

Neck comes next, again with the grain.

Under the nose is taken care of with the single blade portion of the Fusion, the rest of the moustache area is take care of by the 5blade side

The chin area I leave for last so that the foam has time to soften the stubble that much more.

Any missed spots I dab on some more foam and shave across the grain.

Rinse with warm water, then with cool water to close the pores

Apply after shave balm

I get most of my supplies from the Art of Shaving. I have very sensitve skin on my face and get razor burn very easily, espically on my neck. Yeah, some of the stuff I buy is a little pricey, but I feel its worth it to not have razor burn and ingrown hair.


Here are thier tips for a perfect shave
http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6...php?trk=header

= I have a Vagina

I use bic disposable razors and hot water. Nothing else. Thats how a real man rocks it!!

md4958 04-06-2009 02:32 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRicker (Post 323434)
= I have a Vagina

I use bic disposable razors and hot water. Nothing else. Thats how a real man rocks it!!

for anybody that has met you the above is completely believable!

hairy bastage

Commander Quan 04-06-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllOGistics (Post 323355)
I didn't realize there were some fans of the badger and blade on the board.

I have the same username at B&B as I do here

TRicker 04-06-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 323450)
for anybody that has met you the above is completely believable!

hairy bastage

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/393/teenwolf.jpg
???

AAlmeter 04-06-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10851


A lot of good info here

WildBlueSooner 04-06-2009 05:11 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AAlmeter (Post 323635)

:r

uncballzer 04-06-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
You can use the back single blade of the fusion to do the close work around your lip. I too use the traditional wet shave with double edge safety razor, badger brush, and some kind of glycerine bar soap--gets a good shave for the most part, but I still have to use the fusion back blade daily to get around a slight mole underneath my nose that I can't get good enough with the safety razor. After I went to the safety razor and brush, shaving is the best part of my morning!

jwintosh 04-06-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
holy cow! my dad never taught me any of this!! mach 3 w/edge gel. takes me all of 3 minutes. never tried a beard as it would take me years (and years). given up on trying a stache as it just looks ridiculous!

WildBlueSooner 04-06-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Anyone know where to find a good double edge razor for a good price. I think I might try a "real wet shave". I already have a good brush and some good after shave...just need a good razor and a good cream!

AllOGistics 04-06-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 323707)
Anyone know where to find a good double edge razor for a good price. I think I might try a "real wet shave". I already have a good brush and some good after shave...just need a good razor and a good cream!


I recommend the Merkur HD.

This is where I got mine. Lee's

I'd also recommend ordering a variety pack of double-edged blades. This will give you a good place to start. I go to West Coast Shaving for sampler packs or ordering new blades. I also picked up my brush at the Art of Shaving.

Badger and Blade is a great place to start. They have tons of advice, tips, and reviews. I hope this helps.

tobii3 04-06-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRicker (Post 323434)
= I have a Vagina

I use bic disposable razors and hot water. Nothing else. Thats how a real man rocks it!!

CLEANUP ON MONITOR 6!!!

:r

WildBlueSooner 04-06-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllOGistics (Post 323754)
I recommend the Merkur HD.

This is where I got mine. Lee's

I'd also recommend ordering a variety pack of double-edged blades. This will give you a good place to start. I go to West Coast Shaving for sampler packs or ordering new blades. I also picked up my brush at the Art of Shaving.

Badger and Blade is a great place to start. They have tons of advice, tips, and reviews. I hope this helps.

Thanks Greg...much appreciated!

AllOGistics 04-06-2009 05:53 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
I forgot to mention. Sometimes you can find good deals on ebay.

mhailey 04-06-2009 09:30 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 323707)
Anyone know where to find a good double edge razor for a good price. I think I might try a "real wet shave". I already have a good brush and some good after shave...just need a good razor and a good cream!

www.classicshaving.com

www.vintagebladesllc.com

http://mamabearssoaps.com/ (GREAT SHAVING SOAP!)

i have no relation to any of the above vendors

Matt

GreekGodX 04-06-2009 11:01 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
That badger and blade site seems to be the equivalent of what CA is to cigars.. Looks very good IMO

kzm007 04-07-2009 03:05 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Holy...

thanks to all :tu quite the expansive little list for just one question.

rizzle 04-07-2009 09:20 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
A pair of pliers and a blowtorch.

The Professor 04-07-2009 09:51 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 323707)
Anyone know where to find a good double edge razor for a good price. I think I might try a "real wet shave". I already have a good brush and some good after shave...just need a good razor and a good cream!

I've procured most of my stuff from West Coast Shaving.

I started with (and am still using) the Merkur HD (34C) razor. It's generally a consensus that it's the best "starter" razor for folks because it's forgiving but will still lend itself to advanced technique.

Blades are purely personal. I got the small sampler pack (though I'd recommend the large one) from West Coast. I started at the beginning and worked my way up to more and more "aggressive" (read: sharp) blades and, as I mentioned earlier, have really settled into the Japanese Feathers. But like I said, it's all about *your specific* beard, your skin, and your technique -- the comination of these things will determine what blade works best for YOU. If you do the sampler, spend at least one week using each type of blade -- don't switch brands every other day. Oh ... and just skip the Merkur blades. They're trash.

As for cream, check out the forums and reviews over at B&B. There are so many good things out there that it's hard to recommend just one. As such, I'll recommend two. :D
1. Proraso shave cream: you can get this at Bath & Body Works locally under the "Bigelow" (sp?) brand, which is the USA import version. It's menthol and eucalyptus and is very soothing.

2. Taylor of Old Bond Street: it's the sh*t. Really. I've been using it 3-5 times a week since early-January and couldn't be happier. Yeah, it's a tad pricey ($14); but it's SOOOO worth it. I'm using Rose and it's nice -- scent is very light and refreshing.

I forgot to mention earlier that after I rinse (first with warm, then with cold water), I use Proraso Liquid Cream Aftershave. It's very soothing. The scent is mild and invigorating and goes away quickly (I'm very sensitive to perfumes and nothin I use is strong enough to bother me). Sometimes I'll use a Nivea Sensitive Skin Aftershave, which is nice too. I like the Proraso better, generally, though.

WildBlueSooner 04-07-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 324717)
I've procured most of my stuff from West Coast Shaving.

I started with (and am still using) the Merkur HD (34C) razor. It's generally a consensus that it's the best "starter" razor for folks because it's forgiving but will still lend itself to advanced technique.

Blades are purely personal. I got the small sampler pack (though I'd recommend the large one) from West Coast. I started at the beginning and worked my way up to more and more "aggressive" (read: sharp) blades and, as I mentioned earlier, have really settled into the Japanese Feathers. But like I said, it's all about *your specific* beard, your skin, and your technique -- the comination of these things will determine what blade works best for YOU. If you do the sampler, spend at least one week using each type of blade -- don't switch brands every other day. Oh ... and just skip the Merkur blades. They're trash.

As for cream, check out the forums and reviews over at B&B. There are so many good things out there that it's hard to recommend just one. As such, I'll recommend two. :D
1. Proraso shave cream: you can get this at Bath & Body Works locally under the "Bigelow" (sp?) brand, which is the USA import version. It's menthol and eucalyptus and is very soothing.

2. Taylor of Old Bond Street: it's the sh*t. Really. I've been using it 3-5 times a week since early-January and couldn't be happier. Yeah, it's a tad pricey ($14); but it's SOOOO worth it. I'm using Rose and it's nice -- scent is very light and refreshing.

I forgot to mention earlier that after I rinse (first with warm, then with cold water), I use Proraso Liquid Cream Aftershave. It's very soothing. The scent is mild and invigorating and goes away quickly (I'm very sensitive to perfumes and nothin I use is strong enough to bother me). Sometimes I'll use a Nivea Sensitive Skin Aftershave, which is nice too. I like the Proraso better, generally, though.

Thanks! The Merkur HD is what I was looking at, I have heard only good things about it. I will try those shaving creams, the sound really good. I also like the idea of the blade sampler pack. Thanks for all of your suggestions!

Volt 04-07-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwintosh (Post 323703)
holy cow! my dad never taught me any of this!! mach 3 w/edge gel. takes me all of 3 minutes. never tried a beard as it would take me years (and years). given up on trying a stache as it just looks ridiculous!

Exactly how I roll..... I never knew so many peeps got all involved with a shave.... Way back in the day I tried those disposable ones - suicide is more preferred to those POS.

Ahbroody 04-07-2009 11:17 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Good info I am going to try some of this.

As someone with thick facial hair I have developed a standard pre shave process scrubbing the face before shaving. I tend to use the Zihr shave cream but still use a mach3 or fusion.

Does the double safety razor work well for thicker facial hair?

The Professor 04-07-2009 11:40 AM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 324847)
Good info I am going to try some of this.

As someone with thick facial hair I have developed a standard pre shave process scrubbing the face before shaving. I tend to use the Zihr shave cream but still use a mach3 or fusion.

Does the double safety razor work well for thicker facial hair?

with an aggressive blade like the Japanese Feathers, yeah ... it make a helluva difference.

Commander Quan 04-07-2009 12:11 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
For anyone that is interested in getting into wetshaving I would highly recommend watching the videos by mantic59 the videos are very informative for a newbie, and surprisingly entertaining.

A couple things you should know before buying all the gear.

1. Your shave will take longer than 4 minutes. If your are used to putting on some shaving gel and going at it with one pass with a fusion don't be surprised if your first couple shaves take 30+ minutes.

2. Your first couple shaves may be pretty awful. Wet shaving with a Double Edge razor takes a certain amount of skill where as a spring headed cartridge takes about none

3. If you are completely satisfied with your shaves now you may not be any happier or perhaps even less happy with the results of a DE. Most men don't like shaving because it irritates their skin, dries out their face, they get razor burn or ingrown hairs. Using proper prep and proper shaving technique will help eliminate this, this means;
a. Hydrating,and softening the hair.
b. Shaving with multiple passes with the goal of reducing the hair each pass not shaving it off completely,
c. Shaving with a proper lather to protect and hydrate the skin
d.Using very light pressure to glide the razor over the face while holding the razor so that the blade is at the proper angle to cut not the heavy pressure needed to press a cartridge against the skin.

After a week or two you should start to see a difference and actually start enjoying your shaves or at least hate doing it less. Oh and you will be amazed at how close a single blade can cut over a 3,4,or 5 bladed razor.

Commander Quan 04-07-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 324847)
Does the double safety razor work well for thicker facial hair?

Sharp blades like feathers work well also an "open comb" design works well. Something like this. http://westcoastshaving.com/images/merkur_15c.jpg

mhailey 04-07-2009 12:19 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Seriously boys, use a straight razor. Those DE's are nice little toys, but there is nothing like the feeling of putting an open blade against your face and controlling your own destiny (except the feeling of the learning curve on how to use these, and the styptic pencil's tingle on the cut).

Straightrazorplace.com is the forum I learned from, and it is a great forum dedicated to wet shaving.

skullnrose 04-07-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Just getting into this after reading this thread. Picked up a Merkur 38c and all the goodies to go with it. Thanks for posting the links B&B made for some good reading and I'm now a member.I also shave my head anyone here use the HeadBlade ?

Commander Quan 04-07-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
I found out about safety razors when I was looking into straights, for me the straights take to much upkeep, and for safety razors there is practically none. I however did pick up a a straight at an antique store a couple weeks ago it may be something I try in the future and it was too good of a deal to pass up for $12. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...rquan/left.jpg

Commander Quan 04-07-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
skullnrose, I have a headblade you are welcome to if you want it. I used it for about a week before deciding it wasn't for me I didn't like the fact that you had to push it across the skin it was too easy to press down too much.

mhailey 04-07-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 324983)
I found out about safety razors when I was looking into straights, for me the straights take to much upkeep, and for safety razors there is practically none. I however did pick up a a straight at an antique store a couple weeks ago it may be something I try in the future and it was too good of a deal to pass up for $12. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...rquan/left.jpg


There's no way I could pass that up for $12. I like the scales.

Silound 04-07-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Hmm, all this talk for getting rid of a little facial hair!

I never bothered. Mach 3/Gillette Gel and I simply take my time. If you stretch the skin or puff your cheeks out, you get a better shave by making the hair stand up better. Also, washing your face with warm water pre-shaving will soften the hairs, which will help (provided you use a sharp razor!).

bookman 04-07-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Shave my mustachoes??? NEVER!!!


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...filemonkey.jpg

JPH 04-07-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Why do you all always make me want to spend my money on things I dont need??

I found myself browsing the web site going "Ok...I can spend this"... Then reality hit...this IS ANOTHER HOBBY.... I already:

collect/smoke cigars
smoke /collect pipes
hunt (squirrel,rabbit,deer,turkey,duck,geese)
fish (both standard and fly)
golf
roast coffee
manwhoring
collect guns/ammo
semi connoisseur of booze/wine/beer

Now this.....NO SIR's..I'm sticking to BIC as long as possible.

Quan and Prof with your supple faces...LOL

Commander Quan 04-07-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
You know it. I wouldn't want you to start having nice shaves anyhow. With all the lady's that would be after you I'd have to beet them off with a stick.

JPH 04-07-2009 04:34 PM

Re: Shaving Facial Hair
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 325289)
You know it. I wouldn't want you to start having nice shaves anyhow. With all the lady's that would be after you I'd have to beet them off with a stick.

Depending on which stick we are talking about this thread could become very homo erotic ....very quick....

LOL


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