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goalie204 04-02-2009 09:40 AM

Blackberry or Iphone
 
This will be my personal phone, but also my business phone. Right now i use palm desktop software on my computer, I like that it can store all my contacts, addresses, appointments, reminders, etc, and the ease of use. When i go on sales trips i print appointments on paper etc. My primary use will be for business, I want to have quick access to all my customers, and also have a phone. Wondering from business peoples experiences what the best way to go is. I sure like the iphone for it's fun stuff and toys, but is it functional for business? What's the best way to go?

WildBlueSooner 04-02-2009 09:43 AM

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I have a blackberry for work but have messed with iphones and I would go with the latter! You can do anything you can dream up with it

ABNMP619 04-02-2009 09:44 AM

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Hey,
Have you looked at the HP iPAQ 900 Small Business Messenger? I was looking at this phone to use for all my business stuff, plus it allows me to keep all my personal stuff on their as well. Plus it has all the Microsoft Excel, Power Point and all that stuff. Check it out.

mosesbotbol 04-02-2009 10:37 AM

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BlackBerry if you do a lot of texting.

GarlicBreath 04-02-2009 10:40 AM

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I don't own an iPhone but I do have a Touch and a BB Bold, I love having real buttons, I hate the keyboard on the Touch, which is an iphone without the phone and camera part.

goalie204 04-02-2009 10:41 AM

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I definately text and email a lot - the hp ipaq - interesting. MY carrier has the HP iPAQ 910c

karmaz00 04-02-2009 10:46 AM

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i have a blackberry, works for the most part...i find the msn messenger times out alot, sometimes kicks you off...other then that, works good

King James 04-02-2009 10:49 AM

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iPhone if ATT is okay in your area and if you want WiFi (BB Storm doesn't have it)

goalie204 04-02-2009 10:50 AM

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my city has rogers (rogers.com) telus (telusmobility.ca) and mts (mts.ca)

gettysburgfreak 04-02-2009 11:23 AM

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my dad has a blackberry world edition he uses for work and he likes it. But the Iphone just looks plain badass with tons of things you can do with it. Can you get the internet at all times with the Iphone or is it just when you can get wi fi?

Raralith 04-02-2009 11:26 AM

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I had a Blackberry and switched to an iPhone and it's pretty amazing. I did try the Bold before the iPhone and as others have pointed out, having a physical keyboard is very nice. Typing on the iPhone isn't that bad, and fortunately the auto-correct is quite good. What really set it apart from me though is the apps because some of them are absolutely amazing. My plan though and though was a lot more than the Bold.

blugill 04-02-2009 11:44 AM

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iPhone all the way!
You can get the internet at all times as long as you have cell signal, bonus if you have 3G in your area.
With the app store you essentially have a pocket sized computer that will get better with the 3.0 OS upgrade!
Texting is a little awkward for the first two texts then you'll have it down and you'll not even care about buttons!

357 04-02-2009 12:08 PM

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Do you have Exchange/Outlook at work? If so I wouldn't use either BlackBerry or iPhone, but rather Windows Mobile.

If you tell us what carrier you're going through I can make some suggestions. I have the Samsung Omnia on Verizon. It has Active Synch (e-mail is pushed to my phone, it doesn't have to retrieve it), a 5MP camera, 8GB on board storage with 16GB microSDHC I added, MS Word/Excel/Outlook, IE 6, Opera Web browser, a business card reader that uses OCR to make a new contact from each business card, FM Tuner, TV Out with capability to play DivX movies, and video/photo editors. Not to mention all the free apps out there.

Best part is it cost me $100 after mail in rebate ($70).

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 12:11 PM

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iPhone FTW

houdini 04-02-2009 12:38 PM

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Blackberry.

AllOGistics 04-02-2009 12:51 PM

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Right now I prefer the blackberry for business purposes. I know a lot of Blackberry users that love the keyboard but are a little jealous of the lack of applications. The apps for the iPhone are a huge plus. I probably would get an iPhone if it had a flip-out keyboard. That way it would have both a touchscreen and physical keys. Also, I know a lot of people prefer the e-mail on the Blackberry. It wouldn't take much for Apple to make some improvements to their e-mail. I think that they would win a lot of Blackberry fans if they made those changes. :2

goalie204 04-02-2009 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 316656)
Do you have Exchange/Outlook at work? If so I wouldn't use either BlackBerry or iPhone, but rather Windows Mobile.

If you tell us what carrier you're going through I can make some suggestions. I have the Samsung Omnia on Verizon. It has Active Synch (e-mail is pushed to my phone, it doesn't have to retrieve it), a 5MP camera, 8GB on board storage with 16GB microSDHC I added, MS Word/Excel/Outlook, IE 6, Opera Web browser, a business card reader that uses OCR to make a new contact from each business card, FM Tuner, TV Out with capability to play DivX movies, and video/photo editors. Not to mention all the free apps out there.

Best part is it cost me $100 after mail in rebate ($70).

I have entourage on the mac side of my laptop, but I have winxp on here too, so i can get any software really. The biggest things for me, are texting/emailing, and contact/address book ease of organization. The carrier i will likely use is rogers in canada: http://rogers.com

Seanohue 04-02-2009 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 316661)
iPhone FTW

:tpd:

SilverFox 04-02-2009 03:14 PM

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Anything that is text heavy

Texting,

Emails

Documents

By far the BBerry

as for surfing capability of multimedia apps then Iphone.

Went to the Iphone when it came out, quickly learned that in my world the touch keypad was a source of extreme frustration so back to my curve.

potlimit 04-02-2009 03:43 PM

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I agree with the Fox... I love the apps on iphone, but the frustration associated with texting almost makes it necessary to keep a bottle of blood pressure meds handy. The new BBerry curve and Bold are awesome phones. I have a curve now, and it's excellent. And before that I had the 8830, another top notch phone.

Business - BBerry

Media/Persona - iphone

goalie204 04-02-2009 03:46 PM

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good info, thanks everyone, i'm strongly leaning towards the BB, are there any things i should know about it before going in, like features it may not have that i may need in business?

LeoM 04-02-2009 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 317001)
Anything that is text heavy

Texting,

Emails

Documents

By far the BBerry

as for surfing capability of multimedia apps then Iphone.

Went to the Iphone when it came out, quickly learned that in my world the touch keypad was a source of extreme frustration so back to my curve.

:tpd:

floydp 04-02-2009 05:21 PM

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Anita and I have the bb curve and really like em. We were leaning towards the Iphone but her LG crapped out before our plan was up and I wasn't going to pay out the tookus to opt out so we went with the Curve's and I gotta tell ya we ain't sorry. We don't use them for business but as I understand from the forums I belong to their quite functional.

ucubed 04-02-2009 06:17 PM

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I love my Blackberry curve, however I kind of want the storm, I think the touch screen is great on the Iphone and other phones like it, however there is just something about the BlackBerry that I really really like.

Footbag 04-02-2009 06:31 PM

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iPhone firmware 3.0 and the newest models are rumored to be coming out in June. There are a lot of new features that are coming out. The new firmware will have horizontal texting, MMS, Voice recorder, Cut and Paste, and possibly 3G laptop tethering.(Using your phone to give your laptop Internet)

So my vote goes to the iPhone if you couldn't tell.

For business, I use the schedule and E-mail. You can also E-mail yourself PDF's, Excel or Word Docs and view them.

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 07:55 PM

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Someone explain why texting is so great on the BB? I have the iPhone and text alot with it????

goalie204 04-02-2009 07:59 PM

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OH god, this is tuff.

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 08:07 PM

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iPhone :D

SilverFox 04-02-2009 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 317513)
Someone explain why texting is so great on the BB? I have the iPhone and text alot with it????


I don't think one is better than the other I think it is preference.

Personally I prefer the tactile feel of the buttons on the blackberry vs the Iphone. Nothing more nothing less.

with my jumbo fingers I cannot thumb type at even half the speed on my Iphone that I can on my bberry

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 317593)
I don't think one is better than the other I think it is preference.

Personally I prefer the tactile feel of the buttons on the blackberry vs the Iphone. Nothing more nothing less.

with my jumbo fingers I cannot thumb type at even half the speed on my Iphone that I can on my bberry

that I understand, even the samsung glyde was a little faster to type with but Im getting used to the iPhone, either way the OP can't lose with either choice :)

King James 04-02-2009 09:52 PM

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I think the iphone/ipod touch just take some time to get used to, but physical keyboards do allow for typing a bit quicker

ReggieFSULaw 04-02-2009 09:53 PM

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If you are more business-minded, I recommend a blackberry. The email is great. Browser and media player is good too.

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 09:56 PM

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Which media player does the blackberry use?

qwerty1500 04-02-2009 10:42 PM

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The small buttons on the BB drove me crazy, so I went for the Iphone. Use it for business mostly and couldn't be happier. It does everything I need ... Outlook email, contacts, scheduling and tasks as well as an add-on mileage log application. From what I hear, the new upgrade is just going to make it even better.

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 10:46 PM

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For email the iPhone is great!

floydp 04-02-2009 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 317734)
Which media player does the blackberry use?

A pretty standard one really. Nothing like the Iphone or touch but I don't use it for that anyway. Got my Ipod Classic for music and a Creative Zen Vison M for video. Have to have some justification to have all these gadgets right? Well hell I'm goofing around with one of em all the time. Can't help that I'm such a geek for this chit. :D

Genetic Defect 04-02-2009 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by floydp (Post 317842)
A pretty standard one really. Nothing like the Iphone or touch but I don't use it for that anyway. Got my Ipod Classic for music and a Creative Zen Vison M for video. Have to have some justification to have all these gadgets right? Well hell I'm goofing around with one of em all the time. Can't help that I'm such a geek for this chit. :D

:r you're not alone fratello, tell me about the zen? Is it that good for video? For example the video in my sig the iPhone can't play.

goalie204 04-03-2009 05:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 317819)
For email the iPhone is great!

I've read that the iphone doesn't have push email tho. I don't want to be sitting and waiting for an email, to know i have one, or have to check my email program every few minutes..

The Professor 04-03-2009 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 317064)
good info, thanks everyone, i'm strongly leaning towards the BB, are there any things i should know about it before going in, like features it may not have that i may need in business?

Here's my take. I got the BB Curve and LOVE it. My wife and I both made the switch about a week ago. IMHO, there are a lot more apps available for it than I ever thought. We even have Shazam now (google it). :) If money were no object, I probably would have switched to a different carrier and gotten the iPhone; but I prefer to spend as much for 2 phones now as I would have been spending for just the iPhone. That said, I've really fallen for my Curve and use it for almost everything.

In terms of what software is available for your business needs, I'd recommend searching the store and forums at crackberry.com -- it's a very helpful website with a gigantic user community.

Best of luck to you!!!

PS, the push email on BB is rockin'!

longknocker 04-03-2009 06:00 AM

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I've had both and definitely like the I-Phone better! Much more user-friendly, IMHO!:tu

The Professor 04-03-2009 06:16 AM

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One other thing I forgot to suggest is that you should go try each out at the store. Some people REALLY like one interface or the other (touchscreen or physical kb) and the only way to really tell is to play with each ... ideally side-by-side.

King James 04-03-2009 06:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 318060)
I've read that the iphone doesn't have push email tho. I don't want to be sitting and waiting for an email, to know i have one, or have to check my email program every few minutes..

It does now since last software update

Blueface 04-03-2009 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 318109)
It does now since last software update

Not only that but if you have mobile me, no problem.

This is as great a debate as fake v. real or NC v. CC.
Both sides will like certain features.

I love my iPhone. Great toy. Have gotten use to the keyboard for texting although I would agree the Blackberry is better for that.
The internet, the email as you see it on your PC, the apps, way to much of a reason to get the iPhone.

On top of all that, you can buy the Mobile Stogie application.:D

357 04-03-2009 07:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204
I've read that the iphone doesn't have push email tho.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 318109)
It does now since last software update

Doesn't this somewhat depend on your mail server? From what I understand Windows Mobile is the only phone OS that can receive push e-mail from an Exchange server.

That's why I asked if you use Exchange at your work. If not then it doesn't make as much difference as far as pushing/pulling e-mail.

Pete 04-03-2009 07:50 AM

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I like my iPhone. Texting was a big cumbersome at first, but quickly mastered the touch screen.

No probelm getting e-mails. They just pop up.

Plus, it has that ubiquitous i-pod receptacle that can play your music damn near anywhere these days.

qwerty1500 04-03-2009 07:59 AM

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Not real techy ... but Microsoft Exchange on the server at the office pushes, email, calendar changes and contact changes to my iPhone. In fact, I ususally receive them on my phone a few seconds before they appear on my desktop at our satellite office. The only app that I have to manually synch is my task list updates.

The Professor 04-03-2009 08:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 318221)
Doesn't this somewhat depend on your mail server? From what I understand Windows Mobile is the only phone OS that can receive push e-mail from an Exchange server.

That's why I asked if you use Exchange at your work. If not then it doesn't make as much difference as far as pushing/pulling e-mail.

Sort of. From what I understand, you have to have email from a service that offers push in order for it to work on the iPhone. That means 3 main options: Gmail, business email from an Exchange server, or MobileMe. That said, I thought there were some power management issues associated with iPhone's push. :confused:

BlackBerry, on the other hand, has BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service) which acts as an intermediary between your email and your phone. BIS makes *any* email "pushed" to your phone in more-or-less realtime.

The pros and cons of BB vs. iPhone can go back and forth. Like I said before: if I was made of money, I'd probably do the iPhone. I'm a huge Mac fanboy; but I'm very happy with my choice to go with BB.

Ultimately, no one else can make this decision for you, though. You just need to go to the store and try both out for a little bit. :)

357 04-03-2009 11:48 AM

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I agree with The Professor on "try before you buy". Touch screens are all the rage, but if you do a ton of text/e-mail composition then you need to make sure the touch keyboard is to your liking.

I have no trouble with mine but I don't send e-mail or texts all day. Probably 10-15 short ones per day.

Blueface 04-03-2009 12:36 PM

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There are some keyboard improvements coming to iPhone with the new 3.0.
Will allow horizontal typing. I currently use Easy Writer as an application to initiate horizontal typing. Just can't respond to emails using that same format.

I had a hard time at first with it but within a short while, I now fly on it.
I also have multiple email addresses like one with Bellsouth.net.
That email address pushes my emails just like the mac.com one that has mobile me.
Furthermore, whatever I open and delete on my iPhone is deleted from that account on my laptop so I don't have to see the mail again and again.

goalie204 05-27-2009 06:07 AM

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still trying to figure this out. Thanks to everyone for the input...which just made it harder to decide! :D


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