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KenS 03-08-2009 07:52 PM
iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
After a steep learning curve, I'm finally winding up development of my first iPhone application. It's called Mobile Stogie and looks a lot like the web version that I did at the end of last year (link).

The big difference with this version is that it's a native app that runs on both iPhone and iPod touch, has a local database so network access is not required, and has an inventory section in addition to the reference section.

Here's a teaser screenshot:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Default.png

I'm posting now to ask for a few beta testers (maximum of 6, as I don't want to go crazy with feedback :)). If you are interested, and honestly willing to actively test the app and provide feedback, please post below and I'll PM you back with details to get the app installed.

I am hoping for about a week to 10 more days of testing and refinement before shipping it off to Apple to post on the App Store, so I'm looking for pretty quick feedback.

I'll also offer a nice 5'er of cigars as a thank you for the most active and constructive beta tester :tu

Post names below if interested:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

Thanks in advance for your help!

promethius 03-08-2009 07:54 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'm in, send me a PM, and I'll gladly test it!

alley00p 03-08-2009 07:57 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenS (Post 277781)
After a steep learning curve, I'm finally winding up development of my first iPhone application. It's called Mobile Stogie and looks a lot like the web version that I did at the end of last year (link).

The big difference with this version is that it's a native app that runs on both iPhone and iPod touch, has a local database so network access is not required, and has an inventory section in addition to the reference section.

Here's a teaser screenshot:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Default.png

I'm posting now to ask for a few beta testers (maximum of 6, as I don't want to go crazy with feedback :)). If you are interested, and honestly willing to actively test the app and provide feedback, please post below and I'll PM you back with details to get the app installed.

I am hoping for about a week to 10 more days of testing and refinement before shipping it off to Apple to post on the App Store, so I'm looking for pretty quick feedback.

I'll also offer a nice 5'er of cigars as a thank you for the most active and constructive beta tester :tu

Post names below if interested:

1.
2. Alley00p
3.
4.
5.
6.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Let me know, ken! :tu

rudy3 03-08-2009 07:58 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'm in and taking time off this week so plenty of time to play. I was just searching the istore for a cigar app two days ago.

jovenhut 03-08-2009 08:10 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'll test the app

Sauer Grapes 03-08-2009 08:12 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'll give it a go.

KenS 03-08-2009 08:22 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Wow, Alley00p was the only one to follow the directions and put his name in the list. Hope that's not a bad omen about testers :)

1. promethius
2. Alley00p
3. rudy3
4. jovenhut
5. Sauer Grapes
6.

One more, and I'll get PM's out with instructions :tu

CigarrosCDA 03-08-2009 08:22 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'll test it fo ya as well.

Rick

potlimit 03-08-2009 08:25 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Wow, was trying to decide between BB Curve and Iphone yesterday and went with the Curve... this might have tilted it in favor of the Iphone. Damn.

rudy3 03-08-2009 08:25 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenS (Post 277824)
Wow, Alley00p was the only one to follow the directions and put his name in the list. Hope that's not a bad omen about testers :)

1. promethius
2. Alley00p
3. rudy3
4. jovenhut
5. Sauer Grapes
6.

One more, and I'll get PM's out with instructions :tu
Yeah, not so good at following directions........happy to mess around and be honest though. Thanks KenS

KenS 03-08-2009 08:40 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
ok, PM's sent with initial instructions. I need to setup all 6 people before testing can begin.

Thanks everybody

KenS 03-08-2009 08:41 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by potlimit (Post 277830)
Wow, was trying to decide between BB Curve and Iphone yesterday and went with the Curve... this might have tilted it in favor of the Iphone. Damn.
I suspect you'll wear out your shoe kicking yourself in the butt for that...

HK3- 03-08-2009 08:42 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I gotta say, I have played with KenS new application and it's freakin sweet!

fissure 03-08-2009 08:47 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Great work Ken! Let me know when it's ready for download for the wife's itouch. If I can get it out of her hands:rolleyes:

massphatness 03-08-2009 08:59 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 277855)
I gotta say, I have played with KenS ***** and it's freakin sweet!
Wow

Just wow

HK3- 03-08-2009 09:01 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 277887)
Wow

Just wow

:r You always pop up at the right times Vin! :fu

karmaz00 03-08-2009 09:04 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
if it works for the touch ill test it

HK3- 03-08-2009 09:05 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 277887)
Wow

Just wow
Quote:
Originally Posted by karmaz00 (Post 277899)
if it works for the tip ill test it
And you let this one slip? :r:r

Darrell 03-08-2009 09:07 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Don't let Carlos test it. :r

Sailchaser 03-08-2009 09:30 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I don't have that type of phone but that might make it worth picking up one
Going to follow this thread for sure

UPHOTO 03-08-2009 09:32 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Is there still one more place left? If so I'll take it! :D

Throb 03-09-2009 12:11 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
:gl

Where's that smiley eating popcorn....

King James 03-09-2009 08:12 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Not sure if the spots are full...but if not, I'm in

KenS 03-09-2009 08:41 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I have 7 beta testers now (and a couple of local guys that have done the 'alpha testing' for the past few weeks). I don't think I can handle the traffic of more than that, so I'm going to limit it to those already contacted. I do need a few of them to still provide me information to get this round of testing started (there is a strict technical protocol for iphone app beta testing), so if I don't get the necessary info quickly, I may ask for a couple more people.

I thought it would be ready for release this weekend, but found a couple more bugs that highlighted the need for better testing, so that's why this round is important. I want this to function really well on initial release.

Thanks for the interest, and I'll keep you posted...

ahc4353 03-09-2009 08:43 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
WOW!! Can you do cool sh!t like that for BB's?

KenS 03-09-2009 08:50 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 278434)
WOW!! Can you do cool sh!t like that for BB's?
Nope :)

This was an incredible learning curve for me just to do this. I'm an IT guy, but hadn't done "real coding" in many years. I figure with this economy, it was a good time to develop a backup skillset.

Besides, the blackberry doesn't have nearly the application capabilities of the iPhone, as far as I can see. I use a BB for work, but rely on my iPhone for 'real' mobile apps. Not trying to start a BB vs. iPhone flame war, so take that as just my opinion ;-)

ahc4353 03-09-2009 08:51 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Bummer.

BigAsh 03-09-2009 09:13 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Sweeeeet idea!.....I'll be watching this thread....My i-phone NEEDS a cigar app :D

DPD6030 03-09-2009 09:22 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
If I only had enough funding for an iphone and the plan a month I would jump on this. Like we discussed, once you get the testing phase through sell this baby. $$$$= cigar budget :D

PartagasIV 03-09-2009 09:51 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I'll be in for a third round of testing...or just in for early adoption once it hits the store!

sikk50 03-09-2009 11:23 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
I can't even describe my excitement for this! I wish I had seen this thread sooner, but at least I know it's coming, bc Tasting Notes just doesn't quite cut it

karmaz00 03-09-2009 11:43 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
cant wait either..

rrplasencia 03-09-2009 02:18 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
i'm in when it's ready, wish i had seen this sooner :(

GWN 03-09-2009 07:06 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Look forward to buying this when it's released.

KenS 03-09-2009 09:15 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Well, two of my beta testers did not send me the necessary information to include them in the first beta release, but I want to get this started, so I've sent the app to 5 testers tonight. I'll wait until sometime tomorrow to see if I get response from the other two guys (you know who you are ;)). If not, then I'll probably add a couple more from the earlier responses on this thread.

In the meantime, if you are beta testing the app now, please post feedback on this thread, as there seems to be enough interest to share the information publicly (even if is just a teaser :D).

Again, I am hoping to release this to the app store in a week to 10 days max, so quick feedback is greatly appreciated.

In the meantime, here's another screen shot to keep people interested :)

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Teaser2.png

rudy3 03-10-2009 11:25 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
To start:

Deleting a single cigar in a humidor crashes app.

Details:
Fields could start with a forced capital letter
Notes delete if you try to edit. Can only be several charachters.
Alignment of multiple humidors is off.

More to come....but really exciting app so far.

KenS 03-10-2009 11:57 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy3 (Post 280529)
To start:

Deleting a single cigar in a humidor crashes app.

Details:
Fields could start with a forced capital letter
Notes delete if you try to edit. Can only be several charachters.
Alignment of multiple humidors is off.

More to come....but really exciting app so far.
Ah, some actual feedback; excellent! ;). I guess that means it installed ok.

- The crashing bug you noted first has been fixed. This beta had a bad bug in the humidor add/delete code, but I have it fixed (I hope). It would be great if you could PM me the details of the steps to reproduce that, so I can verify that I have it fixed before releasing beta 2.

- The forced capital letter is a good idea. I think I can do that pretty easily.
- The notes portion is the weakest part right now, and you noticed right away :). I will change that to a more robust and larger notes field. This is only a placeholder for now until I do the "Smoking Notes" feature (likely a version 2 feature).
- I'm looking into alignment on the multiple humidors. They should line up better after you exit the app, and come back in (but still need to be fixed).

Glad you like the app overall. Thanks for the help :tu

rrplasencia 03-10-2009 12:12 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
can't wait to get this thing. i know of 4-5 b&m owners with iphones that i'll pass this on to.

KenS 03-10-2009 02:24 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quick update (will be included in beta 2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy3 (Post 280529)
To start:

FIXED: Deleting a single cigar in a humidor crashes app.
FIXED: Fields could start with a forced capital letter
IN PROCESS: Notes delete if you try to edit. Can only be several charachters.
IN PROCESS: Alignment of multiple humidors is off.

More to come....but really exciting app so far.

mkr160 03-10-2009 05:21 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Hey Ken, let me know if you need another tester. Ive been using an Iphone since day one and love it. Also let us know when the app comes out. Ive been waiting for something like this for a while. Great Job!!!

promethius 03-10-2009 07:09 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Ken, so far so good. cigar list needs some adding, the 1926 40th and 80th are missing. Also the GOF line is absent. Loving this so far! I should have more soon.

KenS 03-10-2009 08:42 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy3 (Post 280529)
To start:

Notes delete if you try to edit. Can only be several charachters.
This one is now fixed as well. It now presents a larger text area to enter multiple lines of notes (even scrolls for very long entries). I'll include this in beta 2 as well...

Keep the feedback coming!

KenS 03-10-2009 08:49 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by promethius (Post 281267)
Ken, so far so good. cigar list needs some adding, the 1926 40th and 80th are missing. Also the GOF line is absent. Loving this so far! I should have more soon.
The trick to building out the database is to get somebody willing to update the web site that I started to collect info last december for all the cigar info. I pull data from that site to populate the default database for the iPhone native app. At the moment, the app doesn't automatically connect to get updates, so I have to do that as part of the app release process.

Let me know what cigars are needed, and I'll see if I can get my son to add some of 'em.

Sauer Grapes 03-10-2009 08:52 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Ken,

Just about to download the app and add it to my phone. Safari warns me that the download is coming from a suspected phishing site. Any idea why I get that warning?

KenS 03-10-2009 08:58 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 281426)
Ken,

Just about to download the app and add it to my phone. Safari warns me that the download is coming from a suspected phishing site. Any idea why I get that warning?
"download"? I emailed the app to you; you should not need to download anything. If, however, you are using webmail of some flavor then maybe Safari suspects that site? Seems odd to me. :confused:

Sauer Grapes 03-10-2009 09:13 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Weird right? The zip file doesn't give the warning, however after safari virus scans the actual file, says it's clear and I click download it goes to the warning page. Didn't make sense to me either. This is just on the Mobile_Stogie_Beta_Profile.mobileprovision (8KB) file.

I will restart and see if that fixes the issue.

RolinRandy 03-10-2009 09:14 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Ken, Will you let us know when we can get this app offline?
RR

Maybe post a new thread when you are done testing.

KenS 03-10-2009 09:21 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 281459)
Weird right? The zip file doesn't give the warning, however after safari virus scans the actual file, says it's clear and I click download it goes to the warning page. Didn't make sense to me either. This is just on the Mobile_Stogie_Beta_Profile.mobileprovision (8KB) file.

I will restart and see if that fixes the issue.
Make sure that you are downloading the file to your desktop, rather than trying to "open" the file.

KenS 03-10-2009 09:21 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RolinRandy (Post 281461)
Ken, Will you let us know when we can get this app offline?
RR

Maybe post a new thread when you are done testing.
Yup :)

tchariya 03-10-2009 09:26 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App ... need beta testers
 
v2 of your app could be

- click cigar and it will load up current online prices of the top 5 online sellers.
(charge if a vendor wants to be part of top5/top10??)
- click cigar and get reviews of the cigar
- click cigar and locate nearest cigar shop!

Your app is wicked cool!


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