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Blueface 03-08-2009 10:24 AM
People never cease to amaze me
 
I have a neighbor three doors over whose name I don't even know.
Not too long ago, a bunch of my neighbors were having problems with the sprinklers primarily due to the lake being low.
They were all gathering around their pumps and talking about trying to fix them, with a couple of lawn guys unsuccessful at their attempts.
I am pretty good with PVC plumbing and sprinkler systems so I helped them diagnose the problem.
One neighbor in particular, the one I referenced when starting this story, needed a pump as his was totally shot.
I offered to guide him how to do it as a neighborly gesture.

I drew out a schematic and provided him with a list of the parts he needed, to include drawings for ease of locating them.
Yesterday morning, with two herniated discs acting up badly, I assisted him in changing his pump. Due to the man being a person with two left hands, turns out I did most of the cutting and gluing. He did the electrical with me guiding him. In between, I realized he was a part short and they had given him a wrong part to go along with that. Rather than sending him back and waste more time, I ran to Home Depot and got the parts myself. I spent $11 out my pocket for them and when I got back, I gave him the receipt for the expense.

We got done with the installation but couldn't prime the pump as the hose I had created for that was missing, thanks to one of those neighbors not returning it. I showed him how to make a hose to connect to the garden hose and the pump at the same time, since both have male threads at the end. I asked him if he had the receipt for the parts I bought (hint) and he said yeah.

Well, I walked away, with my back hurting more than when I started, having made a trip to Home Depot on my dime, having spent $11 for parts that he should have reimbursed me for, having saved him $200 for labor to change that pump out, all for a man whose name I don't know. Frankly, $11 is crap to me at the end of the day but man, that is some set of balls. When I see him this week, my balls are going to grow to the size of his and will ask him outright for my money.

TripleF 03-08-2009 10:27 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Sorry bro, what is some se tof balls?

newcigarz 03-08-2009 10:27 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Sucker. ;)

Blueface 03-08-2009 10:30 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 277030)
Sorry bro, what is some se tof balls?
Well, I busted my butt installing a pump for him, barely able to bend down due to the back problems, made a trip to get parts and the man didn't have the decency to reimburse me my money. I didn't charge him and didn't expect to get paid but I find it to be an incredible set of balls to be told twice about the receipt and for him to let me walk away without so much as saying, "hey, I don't have cash with me now. Can I get this to you later?"

Where I come from, that is truly some set of balls.

TripleF 03-08-2009 10:41 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277036)
Well, I busted my butt installing a pump for him, barely able to bend down due to the back problems, made a trip to get parts and the man didn't have the decency to reimburse me my money. I didn't charge him and didn't expect to get paid but I find it to be an incredible set of balls to be told twice about the receipt and for him to let me walk away without so much as saying, "hey, I don't have cash with me now. Can I get this to you later?"

Where I come from, that is truly some set of balls.

Ahhhhhhhh, I figured as much, but I didn't see that he didn't offer to pay after being reminded a coule of times. My bad.


Yeah, he's a puke.

Darrell 03-08-2009 10:45 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Phew, I'm glad he did not need help fixing his Mac. :wo

BigFrank 03-08-2009 10:47 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Pretty lame to be honest.

ahc4353 03-08-2009 10:49 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Carlos, it's your money but I say f it. You did theright thing and can look yourself in the mirror. Not sure he can do the same. I believe everyone answers for their actions one day.

You're one of the good guys don't forget that.

newcigarz 03-08-2009 10:51 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 277059)

You're one of the good guys don't forget that.
He knows he is one of the good guys, but he's so old he may forget it. :r:r:r

replicant_argent 03-08-2009 10:58 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
when he has the decency to present you with your reimbursement, perhaps you could hand him an invoice for your labor as well. Pad it with the cost of a bottle of Zacapa as medication for your back.

G G 03-08-2009 11:14 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Sad, but a fact of life that there are people that don't care or didn't have the upbringing to know any better.

Blueface 03-08-2009 11:14 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
In this case, there is no doubt in my mind it is not an oversight.
He knew I went to the store to buy parts for him. That is clue number one.
I gave him the receipt for the parts I bought immediately upon my return. That was clue number two.
I asked him if he had the receipt for the parts right before I left. That was clue number three.

Again, it is not about the $11 so much as it is about that I can't help but feel this guy has a sense of entitlement. I somehow can't help but think that in his mind, I somehow owed him that. That is what pisses me off about this whole thing and thank goodness I haven't told my wife. I wouldn't hear the end of it.

It is just sad that you try to do the right thing and help out a neighbor and save him tons of money at a time when people can sure use it and folks are not considerate. If someone did that for me, not only would I make sure I reimbursed him for the parts but I would also offer to pay him for his time (I wouldn't have accepted it but it is the gesture that would have counted). If he wouldn't accept it, I would try to find out what he drinks and buy him a bottle. He saw me smoking a cigar while doing the pump. Me? I would go out and buy a couple of cigars and give them and say thanks. Bottom line, I would express gratitude.

I am an idiot like this on a regular basis and is the reason I won't dare tell my wife. I trim freaking neighbor's hedges/trees with my chainsaw, I help them fix things all the time and man, I just realized, no one has ever done crap for me. I can't change my way of being overnight but tell you what, the guard is up.

replicant_argent 03-08-2009 11:18 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
I had a similar experience recently with a very well known charity, Carlos. I will tell you about it someday. It has been 2 weeks, and I still have a sour taste in my mouth.

ghostrider 03-08-2009 11:24 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
I think you're to be commended for all the things you seem to do to help your neighbors. Perhaps due to that nature, your neighbor assumed you were helping, with no expectation of anything in return. If that's the case, lesson learned, don't do anything for him without working terms out up front. At this point, wait a couple days, see if he comes up with something. As was mentioned, you're the better man in this situation...but I think you already know that. I think there's more to you that being the better man...it's about doing the right thing.

ashtonlady 03-08-2009 11:27 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Have you asked his wife? He may not know if he has any money, but I bet she does.

G G 03-08-2009 11:28 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277109)
In this case, there is no doubt in my mind it is not an oversight.
He knew I went to the store to buy parts for him. That is clue number one.
I gave him the receipt for the parts I bought immediately upon my return. That was clue number two.
I asked him if he had the receipt for the parts right before I left. That was clue number three.

Again, it is not about the $11 so much as it is about that I can't help but feel this guy has a sense of entitlement. I somehow can't help but think that in his mind, I somehow owed him that. That is what pisses me off about this whole thing and thank goodness I haven't told my wife. I wouldn't hear the end of it.

It is just sad that you try to do the right thing and help out a neighbor and save him tons of money at a time when people can sure use it and folks are not considerate. If someone did that for me, not only would I make sure I reimbursed him for the parts but I would also offer to pay him for his time (I wouldn't have accepted it but it is the gesture that would have counted). If he wouldn't accept it, I would try to find out what he drinks and buy him a bottle. He saw me smoking a cigar while doing the pump. Me? I would go out and buy a couple of cigars and give them and say thanks. Bottom line, I would express gratitude.

I am an idiot like this on a regular basis and is the reason I won't dare tell my wife. I trim freaking neighbor's hedges/trees with my chainsaw, I help them fix things all the time and man, I just realized, no one has ever done crap for me. I can't change my way of being overnight but tell you what, the guard is up.
This sense of entitlement you speak of is 97.2% of the reason we are where we are at in this country today, I am with ya.

Mikey202 03-08-2009 11:31 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Don't go changin' , bro' !!! You have every right to be fed up with people. It always seems like good, giving people "get the short end of the stick."
I've had the pleasure of meeting you at TW with Alex... and all I can say is , don't go changin' who you are, because of shelfish people.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". Ya'know.:tu

Blueface 03-08-2009 11:40 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 277127)
Don't go changin' , bro' !!! You have every right to be fed up with people. It always seems like good, giving people "get the short end of the stick."
I've had the pleasure of meeting you at TW with Alex... and all I can say is , don't go changin' who you are, because of shelfish people.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". Ya'know.:tu
Thanks to you and all others who have posted kind words.

I can't change who I am overnight as much as may think I may want to. As such, there are more "Carlos helping out neighbors" events to come. I genuinely enjoy it as they are projects to me that challenge me. I just won't trip over the same rock.:D

BTW, this place and all the generous people that are part of it consoles me when I lose faith in the world. The world is full of plenty of good people. Unfortunately, there are plenty of not so good also that taint the good ones by leaving a bad taste.

That said, I don't think I could have picked a better title for the thread as people will never cease to amaze me. That goes for the bad as much as it goes for the good.

replicant_argent 03-08-2009 11:43 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277109)
I trim freaking neighbor's hedges/trees with my chainsaw
And yet, still.... despite his neighbors screams of "CARLOS!!!!! I DO NOT WANT YOU TRIMMING MY WIFES BUSH AGAIN!"



or



"CARLOS, THAT HEDGE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE AN ORGAN!!"

he continues his quest for lanscaping infamy.

G G 03-08-2009 11:44 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 277127)
Don't go changin' , bro' !!! You have every right to be fed up with people. It always seems like good, giving people "get the short end of the stick."
I've had the pleasure of meeting you at TW with Alex... and all I can say is , don't go changin' who you are, because of shelfish people.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". Ya'know.:tu
I agree, it is hard though. But the blessing will come back, just maybe not from that particular person.:tu

G G 03-08-2009 11:45 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277138)
Thanks to you and all others who have posted kind words.

I can't change who I am overnight as much as may think I may want to. As such, there are more "Carlos helping out neighbors" events to come. I genuinely enjoy it as they are projects to me that challenge me. I just won't trip over the same rock.:D

BTW, this place and all the generous people that are part of it consoles me when I lose faith in the world. The world is full of plenty of good people. Unfortunately, there are plenty of not so good also that taint the good ones by leaving a bad taste.

That said, I don't think I could have picked a better title for the thread as people will never cease to amaze me. That goes for the bad as much as it goes for the good.
Well said my friend.

Martin 03-08-2009 11:51 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
What type of world would we live in if we ALL acted like you.

lightning9191 03-08-2009 11:54 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 277143)
And yet, still.... despite his neighbors screams of "CARLOS!!!!! I DO NOT WANT YOU TRIMMING MY WIFES BUSH AGAIN!"



or



"CARLOS, THAT HEDGE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE AN ORGAN!!"

he continues his quest for lanscaping infamy.
:r:r

Maybe you should trim their bushes in the shapes of organs....they'd probably stop asking for you help:D

ChasDen 03-08-2009 11:59 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggainey (Post 277124)
This sense of entitlement you speak of is 97.2% of the reason we are where we are at in this country today, I am with ya.
I deal with the general public daily and I think its higher that 97.2%. It truly amazes me that people feel they are entitled to or its their right to "fill in the blank". Not to thread jack but last week we were at a customers house, a seemingly intelligent man and woman, and listened to them spout on the whole time we were there how they cant wait for "this president and his congress" to make things right. They used phrases like" fixing the rich", "redistributing everyone's money" and the one that made me puke a little in my mouth "its everyone's right to have as much money as the rich". They argued with the $1500 bill claiming a $6 dollar item on it was suppose to be free :confused:

I feel your pain :tu

Chas

Whee 03-08-2009 12:01 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ashtonlady (Post 277123)
Have you asked his wife? He may not know if he has any money, but I bet she does.
:r:r:r

G G 03-08-2009 12:38 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasDen (Post 277166)
I deal with the general public daily and I think its higher that 97.2%. It truly amazes me that people feel they are entitled to or its their right to "fill in the blank". Not to thread jack but last week we were at a customers house, a seemingly intelligent man and woman, and listened to them spout on the whole time we were there how they cant wait for "this president and his congress" to make things right. They used phrases like" fixing the rich", "redistributing everyone's money" and the one that made me puke a little in my mouth "its everyone's right to have as much money as the rich". They argued with the $1500 bill claiming a $6 dollar item on it was suppose to be free :confused:

I feel your pain :tu

Chas
That about says it all Chas.:tu

icehog3 03-08-2009 01:15 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
If he hasn't paid you by the time I come down for the snkbyt Herf, I will dig it up and hand it to him in 40 pieces, Carlos. ;)

You are a good man, and nobody can take that away from you....your Mother and Father raised a good man.

Made in Dade 03-08-2009 03:42 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Carlos, hearing stories like this really bothers me. Reminds me of a similar situation with our neighbor and my father. He should be kissing your A$$ for helping him.

Blueface 03-08-2009 03:53 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Made in Dade (Post 277452)
He should be kissing your A$$ for helping him.
Mikey,
I don't know about that.
Heck, can't even get my wife to do that.:r

Made in Dade 03-08-2009 04:00 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277461)
Mikey,
I don't know about that.
Heck, can't even get my wife to do that.:r
:r:r:r

dunng 03-08-2009 04:56 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Send him a bill for your labor and parts... :D

Sailkat 03-08-2009 05:32 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin (Post 277154)
What type of world would we live in if we ALL acted like you.
It would be a pretty great place if we all looked out for each other.

tnip23 03-08-2009 06:31 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Honestly Carlos the karmic payback to you is probably all backed up for all the good you do. It will come your way, as it will for the inconsiderate neighbor. I know I don't need to say this, but keep doing all the good you do. :tu

Barteur 03-08-2009 07:18 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
People are incredible:confused:

Reading this hole story, now I know why I live downtown in the city in a condo. My neigbourgh is 10 feet from me and I don`t even know what he looks like.

You should go back to him take the material you bought and take it back to Home Depot and get a refund, then charge as a consultant 150$hr to repair his system:fu

Frenchie

rizzle 03-09-2009 08:58 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
it will come back at you somehow Carlos. Worst case scenario in self-satisfaction. Keep on keeping on bro.

:tu

tunes 03-09-2009 09:52 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 277109)
I trim freaking neighbor's hedges/trees with my chainsaw, I help them fix things all the time and man, I just realized, no one has ever done crap for me. I can't change my way of being overnight but tell you what, the guard is up.
I too have been down this road and with the exception of a few I no longer offer my services. I was the neighborhood go to guy, Mr. Fix-it so to speak. But as more and more requests were made, fewer slaps on the backs and Thanks were being given in return, as if it was expected. I now find I have more time to relax and smoke my 'gars. :D

Sorry - didn't mean to thread jack...

shilala 03-09-2009 10:07 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
I used to get tired by the same thing all the time, Carlos.
I'd get just as upset as you, too, if not moreso.
I just changed my angle. I do whatever I can whenever I can for anyone I can. I just do it because I can and don't want or expect anything in return. I consider it a gift.
That way, no matter what happens, I'm not going to get upset.
I'm rewarded every day by the help of others, and the Grace of God.
Turns out I'm WAY ahead of the game, and I need to give a lot more back.
So I just keep on trying. :tu

King James 03-09-2009 10:12 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
that sucks Carlos. I hope he at least said thank you

hotreds 03-09-2009 10:19 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
The guy is a puto, pure and simple. But, I'm optimistic that more people than not are grateful for your- or anyone's- help.

Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

mrreindeer 03-09-2009 10:19 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 277056)
Pretty lame to be honest.
:tpd: Sorry to hear this Carlos; some people just suck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 277143)
And yet, still.... despite his neighbors screams of "CARLOS!!!!! I DO NOT WANT YOU TRIMMING MY WIFES BUSH AGAIN!"



or



"CARLOS, THAT HEDGE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE AN ORGAN!!"

he continues his quest for lanscaping infamy.
:r:r

Quote:
Originally Posted by ggainey (Post 277124)
This sense of entitlement you speak of is 97.2% of the reason we are where we are at in this country today, I am with ya.
:tpd::tpd:

mrreindeer 03-09-2009 10:22 AM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasDen (Post 277166)
listened to them spout on the whole time we were there how they cant wait for "this president and his congress" to make things right. They used phrases like" fixing the rich", "redistributing everyone's money" and the one that made me puke a little in my mouth "its everyone's right to have as much money as the rich". They argued with the $1500 bill claiming a $6 dollar item on it was suppose to be free
:pu wow...they really said that?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunng (Post 277537)
Send him a bill for your labor and parts... :D
While I think you've done a very generous thing (and continue to do so with other neighbors), I kinda want to see what he'd do...but I know that's not really your style....and you should be commended for it, truly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 278469)
it will come back at you somehow Carlos. Worst case scenario in self-satisfaction. Keep on keeping on bro.
:tpd:

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 278607)
I used to get tired by the same thing all the time, Carlos.
I'd get just as upset as you, too, if not moreso.
I just changed my angle. I do whatever I can whenever I can for anyone I can. I just do it because I can and don't want or expect anything in return. I consider it a gift.
That way, no matter what happens, I'm not going to get upset.
I'm rewarded every day by the help of others, and the Grace of God.
Turns out I'm WAY ahead of the game, and I need to give a lot more back.
So I just keep on trying. :tu
Great way to be, Scott. :tu

Blueface 03-18-2009 01:19 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Interesting update.

On Saturday, while washing my car in my driveway, I see my neighbor drive by on his way home.
While I continued to wash my car, through the corner of my eye, I watched him start to walk over to me.
I made believe I had no clue and waited until he approached me.
Turns out he had some more questions.
He was able to prime the pump with my instructions but seems the valve system was now locked up from not using it for so long.
While talking, I mentioned jokingly that I would provide guidance but he would have to pay for parts and reminded him about the money from the parts I bought for changing out the pump.
He said he thought he had paid me.
I said no, he hadn't.
I reminded him I offered to take care of it and he could reimburse me when I returned.
He said he would take care of it right away and intended to take care of me also for my help/labor.
I said don't worry about my help/labor. I did that as a neighborly gesture and would do it for anyone and not looking to be paid. Just reimburse me for the parts.






Well.................................that was Saturday, today is Wednesday and still waiting.:r:r:r
Have to truly laugh.

landhoney 03-18-2009 01:27 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 293124)
Well.................................that was Saturday, today is Wednesday and still waiting.:r:r:r
Have to truly laugh.
Forgot to tell you, I ran into this guy Monday and he gave me some cigars to give you as repayment. They're real nice, next time I see you I'll be sure to give them to you. :tu

rizzle 03-18-2009 01:30 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Alright. So I first said it would come back around to you.

Now, I'm saying throw a flaming bag of dog poo on his doorstep.
;)

Blueface 03-18-2009 01:38 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 293140)
Alright. So I first said it would come back around to you.

Now, I'm saying throw a flaming bag of dog poo on his doorstep.
;)
:r:r:r

Blueface 03-18-2009 01:39 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 293136)
Forgot to tell you, I ran into this guy Monday and he gave me some cigars to give you as repayment. They're real nice, next time I see you I'll be sure to give them to you. :tu
You better stay away Seth.:D

gettysburgfreak 03-18-2009 04:32 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
what a piece of ****. id offer to break his knee caps if he didn't fork over the dough. You should put a nice little friendly reminder in his mail box

beamish 03-18-2009 05:55 PM
Re: People never cease to amaze me
 
He sounds like a moron and a cheapskate,that was very kind of you...his bad:2


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