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loki 02-17-2009 05:21 AM

windows guy going to macs
 
Are there any good forums out there for mac discussion? I'm a windows guy who is making the switch from windows/dos for the past 22 years (started on a comadore 64 when I was 4) to a mac for the first time. My fiacee really wants one and I figure if we have one in the house I'm going to need one so I know how to fix her laptop when she screws it up. But rather then playing catch up when they get here I'd rather hit the ground running and have a working knowledge of what's going on with the OS and what some must have problems are. I'm already getting VMware so that I can still run my old copy of office....hey I'm cheap that's a couple boxes of cigars I can buy with what that softwear would cost.

Thanks all

King James 02-17-2009 05:37 AM

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congrats! I switched 4 years ago with no regrets.

macrumors.com is a good site. Also alot of good information reading around the apple.com website.

tenbaseg 02-17-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 239732)
congrats! I switched 4 years ago with no regrets.

macrumors.com is a good site. Also alot of good information reading around the apple.com website.

:tpd:

Macrumors and the Apple site are the forums I frequent. The only thing you have to watch out for is that the Apple forum is censored by Apple. Rumors and speculation on future products discussions don't last too long on there.

Appleinsider.com is another one to try as well.

Smokin Gator 02-17-2009 06:04 AM

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I have been a Mac user since 1987. If you need anything shoot me a PM.

macpappy 02-17-2009 06:09 AM

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Congratulations.
Macs are easy to use and there are very few viruses or worms that have been written to attack Macs so that is a good thing. The bad news is that it does happen occasionally so you'll still need anti-virus software.

My first recommendation is to buy the Apple Care warranty. It will cost you a couple of hundred extra but it is worth the money as it covers just about anything that can go wrong with your computer. It also gives you good telephone tech support access and from my experience these people know what they are doing.

GWN 02-17-2009 06:33 AM

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Mac user since 87 as well. Feel free to PM with any questions. The forums at apple.com are a great resource as well. Just like here, lots of FOGs willing to help a newbie without giving any attitude with the answer. In terms of what's new, etc, I keep an eye on tuaw.com and macnn.com

goalie204 02-17-2009 06:34 AM

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Use both a mac and a windows pc for many years, if you need any help feel free to pm

loki 02-17-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 239754)
Congratulations.
Macs are easy to use and there are very few viruses or worms that have been written to attack Macs so that is a good thing. The bad news is that it does happen occasionally so you'll still need anti-virus software.

My first recommendation is to buy the Apple Care warranty. It will cost you a couple of hundred extra but it is worth the money as it covers just about anything that can go wrong with your computer. It also gives you good telephone tech support access and from my experience these people know what they are doing.

i was planing to get the applecare after the ne that comes with the computer runs out. what are some must have programs for a mac? im getting vmware what else do i need who makes a good skin for a macbook? thank god for internet on cell phones since the net at work is down

Buckeye Jack 02-17-2009 06:39 AM

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Long time Mac user here....I have always enjoyed macmentor.com as well....seems as though it is down right now for updates.

mmblz 02-17-2009 06:55 AM

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for general news, macintouch.com

Hardcz 02-17-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 239748)
shoot me.

Will do... LINUX FOR LIFE!!!

macpappy 02-17-2009 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 239781)
i was planing to get the applecare after the ne that comes with the computer runs out. what are some must have programs for a mac? im getting vmware what else do i need who makes a good skin for a macbook? thank god for internet on cell phones since the net at work is down

Buy the Applecare when you buy the computer. There are things it will cover that the normal warranty does not. As for what else you need it depends on what you are going to use the Mac for. I use both my desktop and macbook pro for work 90 percent of the time so I mainly just have the apps I use for work. I hear iLife is good but I have no experience with it since I use Office for Mac and the Adobe Creative Suite (Indesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc).

As others have posted, the Apple website is a good place to start and most of the Macintosh specific forums will give you some good information.

Blueface 02-17-2009 07:15 AM

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Well, the comedy with Mac and me is well documented.
However, can't see myself going back to PC.

I love my mac and the simplicity.
I love Time Machine as a very simplified way of backing up the entire computer and being able to go back at any point in time and recover anything I may suddenly need again that I had deleted.
I love the way my iPod, iPhone and MacBook all sync and MobileMe.
I love iPhoto and iMovie and the simplicity of use.
I love that to delete a program......well......you do just that........you take it to the waste basket. Hmmm......what a novel idea.
I love the SUPPORT and constant feeds with tips. They take you to a tutorial video that even I can't mess up. There is a tutorial video for just about anything you need, or at least it seems that way.

I am now trying to figure out how I can get rid of my PC to buy the big screen desktop as these "old" eyes can use a big screen break once in a while and away from the 13" laptop and I can then totally kiss the PC world completely good bye.

The Professor 02-17-2009 07:18 AM

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I'm a longtime member of "All Things Macintosh" over at DSLR. It's a pretty good community.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/macdsl

Welcome to the Dark Side. :tu

loki 02-17-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 239841)
I'm a longtime member of "All Things Macintosh" over at DSLR. It's a pretty good community.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/macdsl

Welcome to the Dark Side. :tu

i thought the DARK SIDE was the cuban slope lol. who makes a good macbok skin frank told me one but i forgot what the name is

macpappy 02-17-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GWN (Post 239769)
Mac user since 87 as well. Feel free to PM with any questions. The forums at apple.com are a great resource as well. Just like here, lots of FOGs willing to help a newbie without giving any attitude with the answer. In terms of what's new, etc, I keep an eye on tuaw.com and macnn.com

The first Mac I used was a 512Ke with an external floppy drive and a blazing processor speed of 8Mhz. I was really flying with my Mac SE30 with its 68030 chip and 16Mhz. processor speed.

I now have an aging Mac PowerPC Dual 2.0Gb desktop I bought two months before the switch to Intel chips and a Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo (Penryn) 2.4Ghz processors.

The Professor 02-17-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 239853)
i thought the DARK SIDE was the cuban slope lol. who makes a good macbok skin frank told me one but i forgot what the name is

they're both about as expensive and addictive. :dance:

skin? SKIN?!? why would you clothe something so beautiful naked? I've never covered up my macs -- just be sure to store them well when you travel. if your bag doesn't have a good laptop compartment, get a neoprene case for it. just go to best buy or an apple store and you should be able to pick one up for $15 or so.

BC-Axeman 02-17-2009 07:55 AM

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Windowz is the dark side.

loki 02-17-2009 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 239869)
they're both about as expensive and addictive. :dance:

skin? SKIN?!? why would you clothe something so beautiful naked? I've never covered up my macs -- just be sure to store them well when you travel. if your bag doesn't have a good laptop compartment, get a neoprene case for it. just go to best buy or an apple store and you should be able to pick one up for $15 or so.

eh white gets dirty it an get scratched ect id like to get a blue or black or red skin for it

GWN 02-17-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 239865)
The first Mac I used was a 512Ke with an external floppy drive and a blazing processor speed of 8Mhz. I was really flying with my Mac SE30 with its 68030 chip and 16Mhz. processor speed.

I now have an aging Mac PowerPC Dual 2.0Gb desktop I bought two months before the switch to Intel chips and a Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo (Penryn) 2.4Ghz processors.

SE was my first, (upgraded it with a 20MB external, woohoo) though I worked on a plus before that. Now new Intel iMac (plus an eMac and Spring 2001 iMac) at home, MacBook Pro at work.

The Professor 02-17-2009 08:46 AM

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Might as well add my Mac genealogy too.

Mac Plus --> SE --> SE FDHD --> Classic --> Macintosh IIsi --> Quadra of some kind --> Clone of some kind....

<<break from macs :(>>

PowerMac G4 AGP --> iBook G4 --> PowerBook G4 --> MacBook (Core2 Duo) --> back to the PowerBook G4 :(

King James 02-17-2009 08:55 AM

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I think we need an "official" mac thread on CA....and sticky that bad boy :tu

Sr Mike 02-17-2009 09:23 AM

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Add me to the Mac long time user. I started with a Mac Plus; SE, Classic, Classic II, PowerBook G3. Currently I have a Quicksilver G4 and iBook G3.

In between I dealt with the wife's Dell, which after multiple upgrades it went to all hell and crapped out. So I built her a new and awesome computer last June with all the goods, but I still prefer Macs.

You would be surprised, the white is much more difficult to scratch than you think and really does not get all that dirty. Mac changed the casings because of those very reasons. The programs that come with macs now are fairly nice. What are you looking to do with your Mac?

loki 02-17-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sr Mike (Post 240000)
Add me to the Mac long time user. I started with a Mac Plus; SE, Classic, Classic II, PowerBook G3. Currently I have a Quicksilver G4 and iBook G3.

In between I dealt with the wife's Dell, which after multiple upgrades it went to all hell and crapped out. So I built her a new and awesome computer last June with all the goods, but I still prefer Macs.

You would be surprised, the white is much more difficult to scratch than you think and really does not get all that dirty. Mac changed the casings because of those very reasons. The programs that come with macs now are fairly nice. What are you looking to do with your Mac?

internet papers music photos maybe some gaming ect

Sr Mike 02-17-2009 02:57 PM

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Your new Mac should have you covered. Learn the programs that come with the computer before going out and spending.

Internet, your Mac will come with Safari, personally I do not care for it and use Firefox and Opera. You will also have a lot less problems with viruses and such. Microsoft has so many ways of getting into the systems that hackers go for those far more readily than Macs. It is also better known that Microsoft is a system that has out a lot of money and hardware into businesses, as such hackers really want to get into those systems. Having extra virus protection for the Mac is a good idea anyway.

Your Mac will most likely have Appleworks, when I worked in a printshop, this was called ClarisWorks at the time, it covered many areas. This will give you great options for your papers. The program is similar to Microsoft office all in one. Do not expect Photoshop quality, but it is really user friendly and one can pull some great work off of it, one of my favorite programs I can always rely on.

Music, well you have iTunes pre-installed too. I do not have any outside programs as all my music is done on the Microsoft.

Photos, you will get iPhoto, this is a really good program, take the time to learn how to use it, you can create all your albums, crop, and etc. If you are of a creative mind, you can use Appleworks and do a lot of playing around with your photos.

Gaming, prepare for some disappointment. Microsoft has good control in the gaming department and Mac is more into the toys and graphic programs. A bit of a paradox, but remember, it is Apple.

fuubar 02-17-2009 06:43 PM

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For gaming there isn't too much native to the mac. But you can always use something like boot camp to have a little slice of windows for gaming.

loki 02-17-2009 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sr Mike (Post 240707)
Your new Mac should have you covered. Learn the programs that come with the computer before going out and spending.

Internet, your Mac will come with Safari, personally I do not care for it and use Firefox and Opera. You will also have a lot less problems with viruses and such. Microsoft has so many ways of getting into the systems that hackers go for those far more readily than Macs. It is also better known that Microsoft is a system that has out a lot of money and hardware into businesses, as such hackers really want to get into those systems. Having extra virus protection for the Mac is a good idea anyway.

Your Mac will most likely have Appleworks, when I worked in a printshop, this was called ClarisWorks at the time, it covered many areas. This will give you great options for your papers. The program is similar to Microsoft office all in one. Do not expect Photoshop quality, but it is really user friendly and one can pull some great work off of it, one of my favorite programs I can always rely on.

Music, well you have iTunes pre-installed too. I do not have any outside programs as all my music is done on the Microsoft.

Photos, you will get iPhoto, this is a really good program, take the time to learn how to use it, you can create all your albums, crop, and etc. If you are of a creative mind, you can use Appleworks and do a lot of playing around with your photos.

Gaming, prepare for some disappointment. Microsoft has good control in the gaming department and Mac is more into the toys and graphic programs. A bit of a paradox, but remember, it is Apple.

the two games I play *WoW and Americas army) both have mac versions so I'm set there. I also plan to run vmwear. For "must haves" I didn't know if there were any free programs that macs can benefit from. On my xp box I have powertools/tweakui, and others. Didn't know if macs had stuff like that. I know it comes with konfabulator which is cool and i'm looking forward to messing with that

floydp 02-17-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 239853)
i thought the DARK SIDE was the cuban slope lol. who makes a good macbok skin frank told me one but i forgot what the name is

http://www.skinit.com/ has a bunch of different ones Kevin.

loki 02-17-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by floydp (Post 241153)
http://www.skinit.com/ has a bunch of different ones Kevin.

what were the ones that you were looking at when we were at your place? they seemed nice.

Seanohue 02-17-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fuubar (Post 241123)
For gaming there isn't too much native to the mac. But you can always use something like boot camp to have a little slice of windows for gaming.

But you still have to pay the nasty prices for Apple's hardware, which will get you far less for the money.

VirtualSmitty 02-17-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanohue (Post 241698)
But you still have to pay the nasty prices for Apple's hardware, which will get you far less for the money.

It's higher but not as bad as it used to be. The 24" imacs have an option for the an nvidia 8800 card now too. Can configure a a decent system for under 2k, and the premium nets you OSX ;)

Sandman 02-17-2009 10:17 PM

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Here's a question in all honesty. I still use my gateway PC from 2001 with no problems at all. I mainly use my Gateway laptop that I bought last year for $400. 2Gigs of Ram, 160 Gigs of hard drive, no problems, works like a champ. Just wondering why someone like myself would spend over a grand more for an Apple laptop or PC?

I only use my computers for internet, word processing, gaming and Quickbooks.

VirtualSmitty 02-17-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 241730)
Here's a question in all honesty. I still use my gateway PC from 2001 with no problems at all. I mainly use my Gateway laptop that I bought last year for $400. 2Gigs of Ram, 160 Gigs of hard drive, no problems, works like a champ. Just wondering why someone like myself would spend over a grand more for an Apple laptop or PC?

I only use my computers for internet, word processing, gaming and Quickbooks.

I can't see why you would. Sounds like your rig suits your needs just fine. You would probably be fine with a netbook for under $400 going by what you use your current lappie for.

Swampper 02-17-2009 11:42 PM

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WOW. Lots of mac guys here at CA! I was told long ago that I was a 'mac bigot'.

IIsi>G3 [got one the first week they were out]> Powermac G5 [current machine(Dual PowerPC)].

With a Mac, just turn in on and use it. Macintouch is my go-to site if I have any problems. Download Firefox and VLC.

Enjoy! :ss

Good_Stogies_Mon 02-18-2009 02:17 AM

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Welcome to the club. You will never look back. Here is another mac site to add to the list

http://www.macosxhints.com/

macpappy 02-18-2009 05:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 241730)
Here's a question in all honesty. I still use my gateway PC from 2001 with no problems at all. I mainly use my Gateway laptop that I bought last year for $400. 2Gigs of Ram, 160 Gigs of hard drive, no problems, works like a champ. Just wondering why someone like myself would spend over a grand more for an Apple laptop or PC?

I only use my computers for internet, word processing, gaming and Quickbooks.

Which would you rather drive? A 2001 Honda Civic or a 2009 Porsche Boxster? In the end they both do the same basic thing - get you from point A to point B - but they do it with different style.

loki 02-18-2009 08:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 241730)
Here's a question in all honesty. I still use my gateway PC from 2001 with no problems at all. I mainly use my Gateway laptop that I bought last year for $400. 2Gigs of Ram, 160 Gigs of hard drive, no problems, works like a champ. Just wondering why someone like myself would spend over a grand more for an Apple laptop or PC?

I only use my computers for internet, word processing, gaming and Quickbooks.

there are certain things i like to spoil myself with every few years. pcs are one of them. its the difference between a swisher and a partagas de partagas #1... they do the same thing but one is a hell of a lot more fun to use

Blueface 02-18-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 242158)
there are certain things i like to spoil myself with every few years.

I tried that one on my wife.

She said no freaking way to letting me spoil myself with an updated, more modern, faster, tall, young blonde.:r:r:r

loki 02-18-2009 10:16 AM

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can any school me on if I should run a dual boot to xp/osx or if I should just run vmwear...or both?

is it worth looking at the refurbished macs?

Darrell 02-18-2009 10:18 AM

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Once you go Mac, you never go back. :D

loki 02-18-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 242276)
I tried that one on my wife.

She said no freaking way to letting me spoil myself with an updated, more modern, faster, tall, young blonde.:r:r:r

should have gone with a red head :r

VirtualSmitty 02-18-2009 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loki (Post 242158)
there are certain things i like to spoil myself with every few years. pcs are one of them. its the difference between a swisher and a partagas de partagas #1... they do the same thing but one is a hell of a lot more fun to use

Depends how you look at it. For gaming Macs aren't a helluva lot more fun to use. And for the same amount of money any mac sells for you can get a pc with much better internal specs.

I have an imac that was a Christmas gift. It's a nice computer, I like OSX more than windows, but it still isn't my favorite machine or OS. I wouldn't go out and buy one myself honestly.

I think that it comes down more so to personal taste and what one's definition of fun is.

loki 02-18-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 242346)
Depends how you look at it. For gaming Macs aren't a helluva lot more fun to use. And for the same amount of money any mac sells for you can get a pc with much better internal specs.

I have an imac that was a Christmas gift. It's a nice computer, I like OSX more than windows, but it still isn't my favorite machine or OS. I wouldn't go out and buy one myself honestly.

I think that it comes down more so to personal taste and what one's definition of fun is.

I was more speaking to the "why go out and spend a ton on a pc" question then the mac vs pc question

loki 02-18-2009 10:50 AM

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online with apples cs now...have to say I'm a fan so far

theycallmedan'lboone 02-18-2009 10:52 AM

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macs are for LOSERS!

ok just kidding, I enjoy my cousins, but I'm too ingrained in my PC

Cigargal 02-18-2009 11:01 AM

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I had an apple 2e back in the early 80's...now I have a 13" Powerbook G4 and a 20" Imac desktop with the duo Intel processors. I love my Macs!!

King James 02-18-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 242321)
can any school me on if I should run a dual boot to xp/osx or if I should just run vmwear...or both?

is it worth looking at the refurbished macs?

don't know much about refurbished macs, but as far as using bootcamp for osx/xp I have it setup on mine and it works well. I rarely use XP...but it is there for me just in case

piperman 02-18-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 242419)
but as far as using bootcamp for osx/xp I have it setup on mine and it works well. I rarely use XP...but it is there for me just in case

Same here, If I don't use it unless it is something Mac does not support

King James 02-18-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by piperman (Post 242434)
Same here, If I don't use it unless it is something Mac does not support

mhm. I think in the past 6 months I've used it once because I had a word document I couldn't get to open in word on the mac. I know there is a way I could have gotten it to, but it was late at night and I didn't feel like messing around so just switched over and printed....then started having withdrawals and switched back to osx :tu lol

Sr Mike 02-18-2009 04:20 PM

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I was thinking about using XP on my iBook, but it did not make any sense for me to do it. I know it is popular with college students, they can have all their apple needs together and XP for school.


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