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replicant_argent 10-28-2011 09:46 AM

Purging "enhancement"
 
I have purged cigars. I have sometimes noticed a difference when doing so. Especially if the stick has been out for a bit. Whether it purges stale smoke, some moisture, (perhaps?) or slightly rearranges the filler in microscopic measurement, I don't know of such stuff. ;)
Something I chuckle about is when someone mentions "flaming/flameless" purges. As if using a lighter to burn the "exhaust" gasses of the purge makes a difference.
A cigar isn't a jet engine with an afterburner increasing its performance. Enlighten me, O Flamey Purgers, what is it about lighting the purge that enhances the purge?
I will give you the second kind of cool in that you find more entertainment in it for your own perverse reasons.

p.s.
"Flamey Purger" sounds like a nickname Peter would enjoy. er......




@Pnoon.



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NCRadioMan 10-28-2011 09:55 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
I have found a big difference in using the flame as opposed to not. It burns off the nasty gasses including ammonia. That's why you see the 'light show". When I don't use a flame, it tastes exactly the same as if I did nothing.

BigCat 10-28-2011 09:56 AM

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It's totally just the cool show it puts on for me, plus the loose pieces of ash that inevitably end up on my lap when I do it. But it really does kind of look like a jet engine now that you mention that.

replicant_argent 10-28-2011 10:02 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1456066)
I have found a big difference in using the flame as opposed to not. It burns off the nasty gasses including ammonia. That's why you see the 'light show". When I don't use a flame, it tastes exactly the same as if I did nothing.

Once they exit the cigar, whether they have been ignited or not, it would not change the actual cigar at that point, though, would you agree? Now, as a "room note," of purged gas/burnt purged gas, maybe that is what you are talking about?

NCRadioMan 10-28-2011 10:09 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Sure it changes the cigar, back to the way it was before it got all nasty and bitter. That's why we purge, if needed.

For me, it's lighting up the room until it's completely purged and won't light up anymore. Let it rest a minute or two and continue smoking.

bobarian 10-28-2011 10:11 AM

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I just like the pretty colors. :banger

replicant_argent 10-28-2011 10:15 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1456077)
Sure it changes the cigar, back to the way it was before it got all nasty and bitter. That's why we purge, if needed.

For me, it's lighting up the room until it's completely purged and won't light up anymore. Let it rest a minute or two and continue smoking.

So you don't use the actual flame as anything but entertainment and as a timing/volume indicator that the cigar is fully purged of gasses that will produce the flame.
I am not arguing the fact that purging changes a cigar, just wondering how many think the flame actually has an effect rather than act as an indicator.

replicant_argent 10-28-2011 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1456079)
I just like the pretty colors. :banger

Damn Hippies. ;)

WittyUserName 10-28-2011 10:21 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 1456073)
Once they exit the cigar, whether they have been ignited or not, it would not change the actual cigar at that point, though, would you agree? Now, as a "room note," of purged gas/burnt purged gas, maybe that is what you are talking about?

Could the flame possibly help draw out some of the gasses being expelled? Flames require a fuel source and will search for one. Just a thought, I have no clue. :confused:

Mr B 10-28-2011 10:22 AM

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Flameless purger here. Flame during the purge would make no difference in the taste compared to a purge w/ a flame.
Plus I like to keep my eyebrows -(P

Ashcan Bill 10-28-2011 10:29 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
I just like fire. Fire is so ........ mesmerizing.

I think I'm having a flashback.

dave 10-28-2011 10:44 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Read about and bought into the 'flamer' process initially, but found no difference. I've given up the flame.

shilala 10-28-2011 10:45 AM

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This is all brand new to me, I never saw anyone do a flame purge.
I purge my cigar all through the smoke just so it doesn't go lousy on me. I always purge it real well when I set it down.
I never gave it much thought, but I purge until all the smoke is clear, but I don't do it all at once because I don't want to hotbox the cigar. I have a real bad habit of getting a cigar too hot and making it go to sh1t. I ruin a lot by going crazy with the lighter, too.

357 10-28-2011 10:54 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
I will often use the purge time to actually relight the cigar. It usually doesn't completely come back to life, but it allows me to skip the puffs of stale smoke as I'm relighting.

This assumes the cigar went out and you wish to relight it. I understand not all purging is for unlit cigars.

If the cigar is lit and tasting bitter then I see little point in using a flame to purge.

dave 10-28-2011 10:54 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=47866

LigaPrivadaT84 10-28-2011 11:36 AM

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Flameless purger here; don't taste any difference with the torch - just the extra mess.
:tu

bobarian 10-28-2011 11:53 AM

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I always get a bit of a "charred" flavor. Am I doing something wrong? :sh

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/48/flamethrowerj.jpg

replicant_argent 10-28-2011 11:55 AM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
Note to self:
Don't ever ask Bob for a light.

WyGuy 10-28-2011 12:10 PM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
I use a flame when I purge, don't really have any reasoning behind it though.

kaisersozei 10-28-2011 01:14 PM

Re: Purging "enhancement"
 
I flame when I purge, because smoking with me goes basically something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XchwE9zVdnw


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