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T.G 06-08-2015 08:36 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Cooked some hangar steaks on the santa maria grill on Saturday after a few hours of burning some logs to finish curing and degass the paint.

Did pulled pork on the CC last night, came out quite well. First time for pulled pork in that cooker, so I wasn't sure how it would turn out. No real bark, but I guess that's the nature of pellet cookers, but super even cooking.

No photos, had my hands full.

E.J. 06-20-2015 02:59 PM

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I've wanted a smoker for a bit and finally pulled the trigger on a little one today.... Pretty excited to start trying some different things!

T.G 06-21-2015 01:03 PM

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Not using my Weber 22.5" that much since I bought the santa maria pit, so I decided to turn it into a WFO. No way I'm paying $120 + another $200 drop in sheet metal, extra grates and stones that I already have lying around. So, $17 later plus some stones I bought last year at end of season clearance for $5 each, I have an 800+F degree WFO.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attach...1&d=1434913027

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Porch Dweller 06-21-2015 02:44 PM

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:cl That's what I call recycling!

Steve 06-21-2015 05:43 PM

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Looks delicious Adam!

jonumberone 06-22-2015 07:42 AM

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Adam, that looks like something OLS would be proud of. ;)
You are the MacGyver of smokers.

E.J. 06-22-2015 10:53 PM

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Santa Maria TriTip on Sunday and then some chicken breasts & potatoes tonight.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...psvu447ivn.jpg

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Chainsaw13 06-28-2015 04:09 PM

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Thawed out a couple small chickens that spent too much time in the freezer. Threw on the CampChef pellet grill. Apple wood smoke, 350° for about 75-80 mins (were still partially frozen when they went on). Still moist and juicy. Should make for some good dinners all week. Thinking a chicken gumbo one day.

BlkDrew 06-28-2015 05:53 PM

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Chicken wings and Hebrew national dogs.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...psr9r6xr3a.jpg

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps2hjt5mxb.jpg

E.J. 06-28-2015 08:16 PM

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Picked up some St. Louis style ribs at Costco today. 4 hours later, they were a tasty treat.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...psofosvhai.jpg

MarkinAZ 06-28-2015 08:22 PM

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Those ribs look delicious EJ:dr

In 7 more weeks, I think I'll make a couple of racks myself:tu

T.G 06-28-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA (Post 2042434)

In 7 more weeks, I think I'll make a couple of racks myself:tu

Final exam for cooking 101 class?

MarkinAZ 06-28-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2042442)
Final exam for cooking 101 class?

Yeah, its a silly 2 unit Summer course;)

jonumberone 06-30-2015 06:41 AM

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Some good looking eats.
Anybody planning something special for the 4th?

E.J. 07-03-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2042614)
Some good looking eats.
Anybody planning something special for the 4th?


Don't know about tomorrow, but going to do a couple whole chickens today.:tu

Chainsaw13 07-03-2015 12:06 PM

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Going to crank up the pellet grill and do a nice NY strip steak for dinner tonight.

E.J. 07-03-2015 07:09 PM

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Dinner...

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5absmiup.jpg

MarkinAZ 07-04-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 2043169)

Great looking dinner EJ:dr

E.J. 07-24-2015 09:46 PM

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Some carne asada for tacos tonight... Way too much meat.... Live and learn. Leftovers?

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...psg4py3zvx.jpg

pnoon 07-24-2015 10:14 PM

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Looks like a winner to me.

T.G 07-27-2015 08:26 AM

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Fired up the Santa Maria grill yesterday afternoon. Along with stuffed mushrooms on the pellet cooker and my trademarked "DILLIGAF plating job"

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attach...1&d=1438007085

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E.J. 07-27-2015 10:59 AM

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YUM!

jonumberone 07-28-2015 07:07 AM

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Must resist Santa Maria grill.

Looks good, Adam.
EJ, there's no such thing as too much meat. ;)

T.G 07-28-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2046301)
Must resist Santa Maria grill.

Looks good, Adam.
EJ, there's no such thing as too much meat. ;)


Resist hard, because once you get your hands on one, they are so easy to fall in love with. They do one thing, and one thing only, and they do it very, very well and relatively effortlessly.

T.G 07-28-2015 09:55 AM

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Something I like to call ABOSSS. A Bowl of Smoked Stupid Stuff.

Someone asked me if you could smoke olives, of course you can, I've done it a number of times before. But I decided to go full retard this time.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attach...1&d=1438098896

OLS 07-28-2015 09:55 AM

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Pulled my own card this weekend. Cooked a rack of spares and a pack of 8 chicken thighs, did it all with downed limbs.
Lost patience in the brutal 100 degree heat and let em smoke before it was really time to shut the lid, white smoke, ehh, who
the hell cares, can't wait for blue time forever. blech. I ate em, but I realized I just can't cook in this heat. This weekend it
will dip below 95 for the first time in a month it seems, and MAYBE I can earn back my card.

Porch Dweller 07-28-2015 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2046332)
Resist hard, because once you get your hands on one, they are so easy to fall in love with. They do one thing, and one thing only, and they do it very, very well and relatively effortlessly.

I'm not familiar with these types of grills. What is it that they do?

E.J. 07-31-2015 02:20 PM

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With football season quickly approaching, I decided I'd try out these appetizers. Called an Atomic Buffalo Turd. Going on the grill for 1.5 hours.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...psho0cmhg0.jpg

E.J. 07-31-2015 03:32 PM

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Finished
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pnoon 07-31-2015 03:37 PM

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ABTs are wonderful. Prep is labor intensive but the finished product makes it worth the effort.

T.G 07-31-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2046367)
I'm not familiar with these types of grills. What is it that they do?

They are live fire grills, you basically fuel them with firewood logs (ideally oak, although almond and walnut work well too). Very simple design, big open top steel boxes and because there is no intake or exhaust air control they run hot, real hot. To control temps the grate that food sits on can be cranked up or down. They are basically just for direct cooking, they have no lids, indirect can be faked by having the grate really high up.

E.J. 08-01-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 2046854)
ABTs are wonderful. Prep is labor intensive but the finished product makes it worth the effort.

AGREE! Tasty treat, everyone loved 'um.

Porch Dweller 08-01-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2046855)
They are live fire grills, you basically fuel them with firewood logs (ideally oak, although almond and walnut work well too). Very simple design, big open top steel boxes and because there is no intake or exhaust air control they run hot, real hot. To control temps the grate that food sits on can be cranked up or down. They are basically just for direct cooking, they have no lids, indirect can be faked by having the grate really high up.

Thanks for the explanation. I've used one once, about a decade ago, that a friend had built while we were in Germany. I'd not heard it called a "Santa Maria", though. It was great for the steaks we were cooking, I remember that.

massphatness 08-02-2015 08:26 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Trying my first ever brisket on the pit barrel. Not a full packer - didn't want to invest the dough only to screw it up.

We'll see ...

E.J. 08-02-2015 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 2047080)
Trying my first ever brisket on the pit barrel. Not a full packer - didn't want to invest the dough only to screw it up.

We'll see ...

Nice! Look forward to the update.

T.G 08-02-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2046945)
Thanks for the explanation. I've used one once, about a decade ago, that a friend had built while we were in Germany. I'd not heard it called a "Santa Maria", though. It was great for the steaks we were cooking, I remember that.

Yeah, the concept of cooking over a live fire with the meat on giant skewers or grates that can be moved up and down is certainly nothing new and goes back centuries. The story behind the name "Santa Maria grill" and "Santa Maria tri-tip" or "Santa Maria BBQ" goes back to the 50's when it was popularized in CA by a local butcher in Santa Maria CA and then by a few restaurants.

Here's some more history on it
http://santamariavalleybbq.com/2009/...tyle-barbecue/
http://www.tmbbq.com/santa-maria-style-bbq/


From a dumb pedantic point of view, my grill was actually built by "Santa Maria BBQ Grill Outfitters" so calling it a Santa Maria grill is actually it's proper name - kind of like Pit Barrel Cookers / PBC which is really just a upright drum smoker. I know, lame. :D
http://www.santamariagrills.com/index.htm

Porch Dweller 08-02-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2047094)
Yeah, the concept of cooking over a live fire with the meat on giant skewers or grates that can be moved up and down is certainly nothing new and goes back centuries. The story behind the name "Santa Maria grill" and "Santa Maria tri-tip" or "Santa Maria BBQ" goes back to the 50's when it was popularized in CA by a local butcher in Santa Maria CA and then by a few restaurants.

Here's some more history on it
http://santamariavalleybbq.com/2009/...tyle-barbecue/
http://www.tmbbq.com/santa-maria-style-bbq/


From a dumb pedantic point of view, my grill was actually built by "Santa Maria BBQ Grill Outfitters" so calling it a Santa Maria grill is actually it's proper name - kind of like Pit Barrel Cookers / PBC which is really just a upright drum smoker. I know, lame. :D
http://www.santamariagrills.com/index.htm

:tu Thanks for the info! My local grocery just started carrying tri-tip so I'm going to have to pick one up and have a go at it.

T.G 08-02-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller (Post 2047097)
:tu Thanks for the info! My local grocery just started carrying tri-tip so I'm going to have to pick one up and have a go at it.


Cool. One word of advice, when you take tri-tip above medium-rare, it's gets really tough and loses a lot of flavor. It ain't brisket, it doesn't need to be cooked for days.

Amazing Ribs has a decent discussion on how to do it on a normal grill
http://amazingribs.com/recipes/beef/...ip_steaks.html

Porch Dweller 08-02-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2047103)
Cool. One word of advice, when you take tri-tip above medium-rare, it's gets really tough and loses a lot of flavor. It ain't brisket, it doesn't need to be cooked for days.

Amazing Ribs has a decent discussion on how to do it on a normal grill
http://amazingribs.com/recipes/beef/...ip_steaks.html

My wife and I both like our beef on the rare side, so if I take it over medium-rare things have gone horribly, horribly wrong. :D

massphatness 08-03-2015 07:22 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 2047080)
Trying my first ever brisket on the pit barrel. Not a full packer - didn't want to invest the dough only to screw it up.

We'll see ...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/...8b5c3dbdde.jpg

Had marginal success.

On the plus side, the flavor was absolutely wonderful. Nice smoke ring with a great smoky flavor. I used a simple, mild rub of black pepper, Kosher salt, onion powder, garlic powder & paprika which allowed the smokiness to shine through. Flavor & appearance-wise, this was a win.

The one (major) negative: it was on the dry side. I smoked this hanging in the PBC to about 165*, wrapped it in foil with a half cup of beef broth & put it on the grill rack until it got to 200*. Packed it in towels in a cooler and let it sit for about 4 1/2 hours. It made a nice au jus, but the meat itself was a touch dry. It was ok doused in the juice, but it wasn't juicy on its own at all, and made the meal a little disappointing.

As I mentioned in my OP, I went with a small brisket: it was roughly 4 lbs, and what I've been told by the more experienced guys on the board since is that it's difficult, if not impossible to get a moist brisket if you 're not doing a full packer.

Bottom line: the flavor experience was good enough to make me want to try this again. Next time I'll spring for the full packer and see if I can better my results.

8lug 08-03-2015 07:54 AM

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Vin,
My experience is that the Flats don't cook well and should be left for pastrami making. You really need the point and a thick fat cap intact to "self baste".

mk05 08-03-2015 07:56 AM

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Yes. Flat's are good for braising in tomato sauce or steaming

AdamJoshua 08-04-2015 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 8lug (Post 2047198)
Vin,
My experience is that the Flats don't cook well and should be left for pastrami making. You really need the point and a thick fat cap intact to "self baste".

So growing up in Florida we had Fat Boys' BBQ and their smoked beef was actually top rounds (think roast beef), it was a bit dryer as it isn't a fatty cut of beef, but man it's so good, I still prefer that to any brisket, left or right pointing. If you want to try something different I would go for that just to try it, oh and you just slice it really thin when serving.

A

Partagaspete 08-05-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2047456)
So growing up in Florida we had Fat Boys' BBQ and their smoked beef was actually top rounds (think roast beef), it was a bit dryer as it isn't a fatty cut of beef, but man it's so good, I still prefer that to any brisket, left or right pointing. If you want to try something different I would go for that just to try it, oh and you just slice it really thin when serving.

A

I think they call that Pit Beef around these parts. in fact I went to one over in Baltimore called Chaps and it was very, very tasty stuff indeed.

Stevez 08-06-2015 11:58 AM

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Vin, please keep trying. Agree with advice here about full packer. Amazing difference. You did everything right it sounds like, just the base product. I've done over 15 or so and the first few weren't great, but after a few I love them. Ususally very moist and great flavor, but it all depends on what you start with. Worth the effort!

E.J. 08-08-2015 10:03 PM

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Pulled pork sandwiches tonight.
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mosesbotbol 08-09-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 2047194)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/...8b5c3dbdde.jpg

Had marginal success.

The one (major) negative: it was on the dry side. I smoked this hanging in the PBC to about 165*, wrapped it in foil with a half cup of beef broth & put it on the grill rack until it got to 200*. Packed it in towels in a cooler and let it sit for about 4 1/2 hours. It made a nice au jus, but the meat itself was a touch dry. It was ok doused in the juice, but it wasn't juicy on its own at all, and made the meal a little disappointing.

As I mentioned in my OP, I went with a small brisket: it was roughly 4 lbs, and what I've been told by the more experienced guys on the board since is that it's difficult, if not impossible to get a moist brisket if you 're not doing a full packer.

I don't add broth when wrapping it and I serve when it hits near 200, but actually I go by tenderness when it the temp is above 185. Depends what the brisket is "telling me". Fork does not lie.

Full packer's or even just a point cut is more difficult and expensive to find then down south.

bkv04fsu 08-11-2015 01:49 PM

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Wow!

T.G 08-11-2015 04:18 PM

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kydsid 08-12-2015 06:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 8lug (Post 2047198)
Vin,
My experience is that the Flats don't cook well and should be left for pastrami making. You really need the point and a thick fat cap intact to "self baste".

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk05 (Post 2047200)
Yes. Flat's are good for braising in tomato sauce or steaming

Not to be contrary but what Vins got in that picture ain't even a flat. It's market brisket which is a trimmed down cut. It ain't easy smoking any butcher trimmed final cut. Too much fat and membrane have been removed from them. That fat isn't for self baisting either, but it does reduce the direct air contact with the meat which helps keep it moist.

Primals and pac-primals, which whole brisket falls into, are the best cuts to learn to smoke and to smoke IMO. Problem of course is that's always a lot of meat. OK so that's not such a huge problem.

As specific to brisket, smoking a real flat or point is no different than a whole pac brisket.

And the other brisket specific advice I can give is smoke it hot. If you are smoking brisket at under 225 you are doing it wrong IMO.


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