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Shawn hines 12-20-2011 02:35 AM

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Alright, Finally got the order in for the leaves. SO it will be a couple of weeks but let it begin. I will posting what I do and how it goes.

BlkDrew 12-20-2011 12:22 PM

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Looks like I won't be getting a second mold. FedEx said I should contact the supplier and ask for a new item, or refund.

I am waiting on a call back from the company, she said she would call FedEx to see what she needed to do.

Honestly, if I owned the company, I would have sent out a new mold and just expected the lost one be returned if it shows up.

So I guess we are sticking with 5x50 for now.

ApexAZ 12-20-2011 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1508270)
Looks like I won't be getting a second mold. FedEx said I should contact the supplier and ask for a new item, or refund.

I am waiting on a call back from the company, she said she would call FedEx to see what she needed to do.

Honestly, if I owned the company, I would have sent out a new mold and just expected the lost one be returned if it shows up.

So I guess we are sticking with 5x50 for now.

Sorry to hear that =(

Is it something they can easily replace? It sounds like it. Not sure why they wouldn't just send a replacement either.

irratebass 12-20-2011 12:47 PM

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Bummer Andrew, hopefully someone gets off their butt and gets this corrected.

Blak Smyth 12-20-2011 12:50 PM

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They might need to hear something directly from Fedex to prevent people from receiving an item and then calling and saying it was never delivered?
Hope it all works out Andrew! Really hoping!

chaase321 12-20-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1508316)
They might need to hear something directly from Fedex to prevent people from receiving an item and then calling and saying it was never delivered?
Hope it all works out Andrew! Really hoping!

^
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This...but also, I thought you had said Fedex shows receipt of the electronic info but nothing else?

Anyway, hopefully they get it all figured out and you get what you need...in the mean time, I'm sure the 5x50's are great, this gives you more time to 'build up' stock! :banger

Mattso3000 12-20-2011 01:56 PM

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Andrew, just because your new mold received a pickup scan doesn't necessarily mean FedEX actually picked it up. Typically, they would just scan one barcode with all of the parcels from the shipper linked to it and take the packages. If the driver was being careful, he would match the barcode manifest with the packages but I'm guessing at this time of the year he was probably pretty busy and missed it. That being said, if the driver scans it, FedEX owns it and is responsible for the parcel. If it did not have any more scans, they are responsible for the cost of shipping and the value of the item up to a certain amount unless it insured for a higher amount. It is the shippers responsibility to file the claim and be reimbursed for the lost product. I would think if they had any customer service whatsoever, a new mold would be on the way to you asap as it clearly wasn't delivered to you. If they can't do this, I'd contact the credit card and report it.

Flounder 12-20-2011 03:38 PM

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Just got together with Andrew and had some smokes. I had a one of his Connecticuts, it was delicious. I can't write a full review, as I was focused on conversation as well as the cigar. It fit my tastes almost perfectly. It was real light, and mild, but not lacking in flavor at all. I am a Perdomo Lot 23 man, and the Roxy CT gave it run for it's money.

BlkDrew 12-20-2011 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattso3000 (Post 1508396)
Andrew, just because your new mold received a pickup scan doesn't necessarily mean FedEX actually picked it up. Typically, they would just scan one barcode with all of the parcels from the shipper linked to it and take the packages. If the driver was being careful, he would match the barcode manifest with the packages but I'm guessing at this time of the year he was probably pretty busy and missed it. That being said, if the driver scans it, FedEX owns it and is responsible for the parcel. If it did not have any more scans, they are responsible for the cost of shipping and the value of the item up to a certain amount unless it insured for a higher amount. It is the shippers responsibility to file the claim and be reimbursed for the lost product. I would think if they had any customer service whatsoever, a new mold would be on the way to you asap as it clearly wasn't delivered to you. If they can't do this, I'd contact the credit card and report it.

I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

Mattso3000 12-20-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1508561)
I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

:tu Now back to the cigars...:r

Shawn hines 12-21-2011 07:33 AM

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Andrew I wanted to thank you for hooking me up with John from www.leafonly.com He helped me with what I wanted and threw in some extra leafs and some glue on the house. He is shipping to my FPO so I should see them in a couple of weeks (Hopefully)
I will post some pictures when I get this thing started.
How are you storing your leaf?

wayner123 12-21-2011 08:17 AM

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I have and still am going through a ton of videos on youtube. I ran across this one today and I found it most interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2U5TKY2kh8

Anyone want to take a stab at what looks off in this video?

mkarnold1 12-21-2011 08:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1509307)
I have and still am going through a ton of videos on youtube. I ran across this one today and I found it most interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2U5TKY2kh8

Anyone want to take a stab at what looks off in this video?

He was using an accordion method to roll rather than the entubado method most often associated with Cuban cigars? Just a guess, awesome video.

wayner123 12-21-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1509337)
He was using an accordion method to roll rather than the entubado method most often associated with Cuban cigars? Just a guess, awesome video.

Bingo!! I have watched tons of video's and every one of the Cuban Torcedor's use the entubado method. This guy is supposedly over the Partagas factory and their rollers, but uses the accordion bunching? Weird. :confused:

BlkDrew 12-21-2011 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1509274)
Andrew I wanted to thank you for hooking me up with John from www.leafonly.com He helped me with what I wanted and threw in some extra leafs and some glue on the house. He is shipping to my FPO so I should see them in a couple of weeks (Hopefully)
I will post some pictures when I get this thing started.
How are you storing your leaf?

The filler I keep on the dry side. I prep and pre moisten the wrapper 2 days before I use it. But if I'm not using it at all it is best kept dry.

irratebass 12-21-2011 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1508561)
I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

Gald to hear it Andrew!!!! :noon-(P:noon

Homebrewer 12-22-2011 05:39 AM

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http://smokinghotcigarchick.com/ciga...a-visit-part-i

This is a good video to watch. All my stuff is ordered. I'll be reporting back on my progress.

BlkDrew 12-22-2011 06:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Homebrewer (Post 1510085)
http://smokinghotcigarchick.com/ciga...a-visit-part-i

This is a good video to watch. All my stuff is ordered. I'll be reporting back on my progress.

Where did you order from? Mold? Just curious

wayner123 12-22-2011 08:02 AM

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Have any of you experimented with different bunching to see if that had any influence on flavor?

ApexAZ 12-22-2011 08:17 AM

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Here is a really interesting topic on bunching:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51516

wayner123 12-22-2011 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1510177)
Here is a really interesting topic on bunching:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51516

Here is a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO8wSHPusmY

Homebrewer 12-22-2011 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1510102)
Where did you order from? Mold? Just curious

I got the bench cutter and mold on ebay. It remains to be seen if the mold is still usable. I figure if I buy a few of them, I'll get one that still works. I've read that they warp etc.. I'm going to clamp it with a couple of big old clamps that my dad has in his garage.

CoreyD 12-23-2011 02:03 AM

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Argggggghhhhhh. So I need to vent. I had some moistened leaves put aside for madurro and havana wraps. the leaves were put together with some 13 yr Ligero 12 year sumatra binder and stored someplace where there's mold. when finding out my leaves were down there I grabbed them on my way out to work. So I opened up the bin and whoa an icky smell of ammonia came.
I opened up the bag with madurros and mold ugly mold. The binders just got a smell that air kinda took care of.
Sad part is we are talking over $100 worth of leaves of all different kinds. And this is why I did not want the leaves in the basement. man o man. I tossed the moldy stuff leaving no madurro wraps, Tossed the nic seco cause I just got some new in and will hope the sumatra binder stays untainted. this way I can still get some batches in rest for my upcoming sobriety anniversary in Feb and trout fishing trips in may and June.
Worse comes worse in Jan I will order my next leaves for my next series and make this last 2 blends very limited.....

BlkDrew 12-23-2011 04:44 AM

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I only moisten the leaves if I am going to use them in a day or two. Otherwise they stay dry.

CoreyD 12-23-2011 06:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1511031)
I only moisten the leaves if I am going to use them in a day or two. Otherwise they stay dry.

Yeah that was my intentions but I did 4 days and someone at the house figured she would make room by sticking them in basement 3 days ago and I didn't notice they were down there till I went to grab them from the spot in the apartment I had them.

ApexAZ 12-23-2011 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyD (Post 1510998)
Argggggghhhhhh. So I need to vent. I had some moistened leaves put aside for madurro and havana wraps. the leaves were put together with some 13 yr Ligero 12 year sumatra binder and stored someplace where there's mold. when finding out my leaves were down there I grabbed them on my way out to work. So I opened up the bin and whoa an icky smell of ammonia came.
I opened up the bag with madurros and mold ugly mold. The binders just got a smell that air kinda took care of.
Sad part is we are talking over $100 worth of leaves of all different kinds. And this is why I did not want the leaves in the basement. man o man. I tossed the moldy stuff leaving no madurro wraps, Tossed the nic seco cause I just got some new in and will hope the sumatra binder stays untainted. this way I can still get some batches in rest for my upcoming sobriety anniversary in Feb and trout fishing trips in may and June.
Worse comes worse in Jan I will order my next leaves for my next series and make this last 2 blends very limited.....

Sorry man, that sucks. Congrats on your sobriety :)

CoreyD 12-23-2011 03:20 PM

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So I gifted a gal that works at the local B & M a Dominican blend with a Connecticut premium wrapper off my Recovery series and shes a medium smoker and after I called her a couple hours later she said that I am on to something with that blend. My pure nic filler was to much with the sumatra binder but she says she likes the Dominican blend and I'm really onto something if I tighten my draw up a little. She says its an effortless draw at this point. But burns great no fixing great smell great taste.
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Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1511227)
Sorry man, that sucks. Congrats on your sobriety :)

Ty it will be my 10th year in Feb.

CoreyD 12-24-2011 09:03 AM

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Heres answering Andy's question on the molds
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/005-4.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/006-2.jpg
and not sure if you can make it out, here my bands for my dominican blend
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/008-2.jpg
Its my initials CD then the word Dominican on the left and the word recovery on the right

Crownedone 12-24-2011 05:38 PM

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I was finally able to get home pick up my 5er of Maduro Roxys. They look and smell incredible! It is going to be so hard to let them sit for a while before burning one.

boxmonkey 12-25-2011 10:01 PM

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well today for christmas the wife had picked up some leaves and a mold. I rolled two tonight and wow between the first two a huge step forward just in those two rolls. will try this again tomorrow.

BlkDrew 12-26-2011 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1512836)
well today for christmas the wife had picked up some leaves and a mold. I rolled two tonight and wow between the first two a huge step forward just in those two rolls. will try this again tomorrow.

We need pictures! Great to hear you started rolling.

boxmonkey 12-26-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1512899)
We need pictures! Great to hear you started rolling.

Well I have two as of right now

last nights second attempt. not packed tight enough

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/...225_234255.jpg


and waiting on the time for this one to come out of the mold right now

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/...226_131959.jpg

BlkDrew 12-26-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1513001)
Well I have two as of right now

last nights second attempt. not packed tight enough

What types of tobacco are you using for each step?
they are looking pretty good

BlkDrew 12-26-2011 11:34 AM

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i have been busy the past couple of days.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1074.jpg

broken down
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1075.jpg

more to do today.

boxmonkey 12-26-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1513004)
What types of tobacco are you using for each step?
they are looking pretty good

the wife picked up nicraguan seco, ligero and DW2 off leaf only. so DW2 I'm using as the binder and wrapper for right now. not really too concerned on the actual taste out come right now. just working on the mechanics of it. but I'm doing a 50/50 ligero and seco blend. so yea a double maduro right now.

Flounder 12-26-2011 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1513005)
i have been busy the past couple of days.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1074.jpg

broken down
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1075.jpg

more to do today.

Looks delicious Drew. I got a handfull of cello sleeves for you, lets get together and smoke something soon.

Shawn hines 12-27-2011 05:49 AM

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Well got my tobacco order in today, but no glue and missing some of the filler....So I guess I will be waiting for the next box to show up....

wayner123 12-27-2011 06:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1513542)
Well got my tobacco order in today, but no glue and missing some of the filler....So I guess I will be waiting for the next box to show up....

If it's from leafonly, you may want to call them. I had part of my order missing as well and had to call him in order to make it right.

Blak Smyth 12-27-2011 06:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1513005)
i have been busy the past couple of days.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1074.jpg

broken down
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1075.jpg

more to do today.

Those Maddies are looking:dr, keep up the great work brother!

DaBear 12-27-2011 09:16 AM

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Gonna be placing my own order for some leaves in the next few days. Waiting on molds as my boss may have some that he's willing to part with. As for a cheveta I'm thinking of getting a Xikar Cigar Knife(http://www.xikar.com/products/cutters/cigar-cut-knife), cuz yay for multipurposing and its super sharp from prior experience, but if a true cheveta has more merits to it for cutting then I'll go with that.

Oh, and has anyone tried using a plastic cutting board as opposed to a wooden one? I don't have a wooden one at the moment and would rather save the extra cash, but I already have plans for a trip to Target shortly after I get back down to Raleigh.

BlkDrew 12-27-2011 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1513638)
Gonna be placing my own order for some leaves in the next few days. Waiting on molds as my boss may have some that he's willing to part with. As for a cheveta I'm thinking of getting a Xikar Cigar Knife(http://www.xikar.com/products/cutters/cigar-cut-knife), cuz yay for multipurposing and its super sharp from prior experience, but if a true cheveta has more merits to it for cutting then I'll go with that.

Oh, and has anyone tried using a plastic cutting board as opposed to a wooden one? I don't have a wooden one at the moment and would rather save the extra cash, but I already have plans for a trip to Target shortly after I get back down to Raleigh.

If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

DaBear 12-27-2011 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1513803)
If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

Alright, thanks for the advice!

Shawn hines 12-28-2011 08:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1513803)
If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

Thank you for the tips, This is what I have got

irratebass 12-28-2011 08:58 AM

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Yo Andrew, I'd like to be placed on the list for some more tasties if ya don't mind, I have been busy and away from the boards, what wrappers do you have again?

BlkDrew 12-28-2011 12:11 PM

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Alright, so I had a maduro today and I have noticed some big draw issues. Maybe it needs some more rest, or it was too tight to begin with.

That being said, if anyone is dissatisfied with a purchase they have made please lete know through pm. I will gladly work out a deal.

I am just very bummed by it today.

BlkDrew 12-28-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1514320)
Yo Andrew, I'd like to be placed on the list for some more tasties if ya don't mind, I have been busy and away from the boards, what wrappers do you have again?

sent you a pm.

Shawn hines 12-28-2011 06:05 PM

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So I got my order in the other day and I was missing filler and glue, Sent a email and John from Leafonly is sending me another box ASAP said he would make it worth my while.

Andrew, storing in a large tote be ok with everything? My room has never smelled so good.

DaBear 12-28-2011 06:28 PM

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Oh yea, what is the best way to store them? Big ol tupperware container? And would it be best to invest in two and use one for dry storage and the other to wet the wrappers and binders?

Gonna finally place my order tonight so I'm there when it gets in as its only making the short trip from Ohio.

Shawn hines 12-28-2011 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1514719)
Oh yea, what is the best way to store them? Big ol tupperware container? And would it be best to invest in two and use one for dry storage and the other to wet the wrappers and binders?

Gonna finally place my order tonight so I'm there when it gets in as its only making the short trip from Ohio.

If you are going though Leafonly.com, you should talk to John Wallace, he will get everything out to you fast and will make sure that it is right.

DaBear 12-28-2011 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1514730)
If you are going though Leafonly.com, you should talk to John Wallace, he will get everything out to you fast and will make sure that it is right.

I found a different place to go through, but just from the email response I got I can tell he's gonna be a stand up guy.

http://www.wholeleaftobacco.com/

Got the Cigar Sampler which comes with 2+ lbs of tobacco, 1/2 of a seco, 1/2 of a ligero, 1/2 of some wrapper graded broadleaf, and 1/2 of a fire cured leaf(there's also supposedly a wild card extra thrown in but I'll be happy with just whats known). Asked for the fire cured to be swapped with the other seco he offers and to swap the ligero for the other ligero(just since "dark air cured" sounds better to me than "TN90") and he had no problems with it.

I can't wait to just bury my face in the broadleaf.


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