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DrDubzz 01-18-2010 10:09 PM

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I'm a sucker for the Submariner, great pictures, better watches

WildBlueSooner 01-19-2010 01:48 AM

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Unless I missed it I have not seen any mention of any Sturhling watches...thoughts? My wife got me one for Christmas and I absolutely love it!

s15driftking 01-19-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 725386)
Unless I missed it I have not seen any mention of any Sturhling watches...thoughts? My wife got me one for Christmas and I absolutely love it!

bought myself one for Xmas as well. Was impressed by the aesthetics and by the size.. but it was supposedly a PVD finish... its not. or at least ,it doesn't look like PVD.




mosesbotbol 01-19-2010 06:16 AM

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Is it automatic? Looks anodized rather than PVD coated. I think we can PVD coat in different colors, but the finish looks flatter.

Giant & 49er Fan 01-19-2010 07:53 AM

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Great pics and beautiful pieces!

0002S 01-19-2010 08:05 AM

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^thanks

wayner123 01-19-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 725156)

Is that a gunny strap? If so, how do you like it?

0002S 01-19-2010 09:13 AM

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^Yes, I love it and his service / shipping is steller. The best part is that the strap can be sized to each idividuals wrist.

wayner123 01-19-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 725696)
^Yes, I love it and his service / shipping is steller. The best part is that the strap can be sized to each idividuals wrist.

I make custom straps as well. Have been doing so since 06. I was more wondering what you think of the particular strap. To me his straps look like a dog chewed them and spit them out. His stitching is awful. But that's my take on it from an experienced viewpoint. If you love it, that is all that matters.

How many custom straps have you tried?

0002S 01-19-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 725701)
I make custom straps as well. Have been doing so since 06. I was more wondering what you think of the particular strap. To me his straps look like a dog chewed them and spit them out. His stitching is awful. But that's my take on it from an experienced viewpoint. If you love it, that is all that matters.

How many custom straps have you tried?

I bought this strap because of the worn "dog chewed...LOL" look. I also got it because of it's thickness + softness.

He seems to have other staps that are stiched better, but those are pics.

This is the only 100% custom strap I own, but I do own other expensive straps in skins.

Do you have a site for your straps?

e-man67 01-19-2010 10:09 AM

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Word to the wise...do NOT buy an expensive watch without papers unless you are 100% certain of the source...I have a friend who bought a Sinn U1 rep and you cannot tell the difference...apparently they are coming from China and some dude is putting swiss Eta-2824's in them and selling them as reps...but if you didn't know it was a rep you would not be able to tell. I had an authentic U1 that I bought used for $1750 and it looked identical to this rep...ir crystal, bead blasting, smooth edges, bezel tightness, EXACT! Very scary.

s15driftking 01-19-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 725472)
Is it automatic? Looks anodized rather than PVD coated. I think we can PVD coat in different colors, but the finish looks flatter.

not auto,

In my opinion it does not look anodized, anodization produces a finish almost as flat as PVD. This looks like it is paint and clearcoat. I could be wrong.

wayner123 01-19-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 725871)
not auto,

In my opinion it does not look anodized, anodization produces a finish almost as flat as PVD. This looks like it is paint and clearcoat. I could be wrong.

I said it before, it looks ceramic to me. However, that would increase the price tenfold. You can polish PVD and there are also PVD processes in which the metal is not first sandblasted (to get that nice flat look) before PVD'ing. If you go to their website they give you more information on the PVD process they use. After reading I am leaning towards it's real PVD, just a polished version.

0002S 01-19-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 725765)
Word to the wise...do NOT buy an expensive watch without papers unless you are 100% certain of the source...I have a friend who bought a Sinn U1 rep and you cannot tell the difference...apparently they are coming from China and some dude is putting swiss Eta-2824's in them and selling them as reps...but if you didn't know it was a rep you would not be able to tell. I had an authentic U1 that I bought used for $1750 and it looked identical to this rep...ir crystal, bead blasting, smooth edges, bezel tightness, EXACT! Very scary.

Sorta like some cigar lables....:r

mosesbotbol 01-19-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 725765)
Word to the wise...do NOT buy an expensive watch without papers unless you are 100% certain of the source...I have a friend who bought a Sinn U1 rep and you cannot tell the difference...apparently they are coming from China and some dude is putting swiss Eta-2824's in them and selling them as reps...but if you didn't know it was a rep you would not be able to tell. I had an authentic U1 that I bought used for $1750 and it looked identical to this rep...ir crystal, bead blasting, smooth edges, bezel tightness, EXACT! Very scary.

Wow, that's crazy. There was a big deal in Biel a few years ago of similar. Someone robbed one of the Rolex assembly plants, steeling a lot cases. From there it's easy to fake a convincing watch. It's best to deal with trusted sources on something so costly. Most will never see the inside of their watch.

I've heard about employees taking a few parts at a time and assemble a watch over a year or so (at several companies). It would be "authentic" in sense until you send it to get repaired at the factory, lol...

gettysburgfreak 01-19-2010 06:03 PM

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Went to Torneau in the Forum Shops in Las Vegas and literally walked around with my mouth open the entire time. Got to see pretty much every nice watch you could think of. I wish they would have let me put some on to get a few pictures but I can understand why they wouldn't want some 23 year old kid holding a $250,000 platinum Rolex.

s15driftking 01-19-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 726361)
Went to Torneau in the Forum Shops in Las Vegas and literally walked around with my mouth open the entire time. Got to see pretty much every nice watch you could think of. I wish they would have let me put some on to get a few pictures but I can understand why they wouldn't want some 23 year old kid holding a $250,000 platinum Rolex.


I visited Torneau in Chicago, I was stunned with their selection. I can't imagine what was offered in the vegas torneau!!!

DrDubzz 01-19-2010 07:52 PM

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Jealous of both of your, the Torneau in Dallas is only so-so

Although I found my RW there

gettysburgfreak 01-19-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 726404)
I visited Torneau in Chicago, I was stunned with their selection. I can't imagine what was offered in the vegas torneau!!!


The selection was absurd. They had anything and everything you could think of. Seemed like the average price of a watch in there was 40gs.

DrDubzz 01-19-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 726593)
The selection was absurd. They had anything and everything you could think of. Seemed like the average price of a watch in there was 40gs.


http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/rh2...3T-SB2MSbxrg/l

http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/WrO...2CJQ1Ln-3tnQ/l

mosesbotbol 01-20-2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 726404)
I visited Torneau in Chicago, I was stunned with their selection. I can't imagine what was offered in the vegas torneau!!!

The Vegas one is pretty impressive. Looks about the same size as Chicago. They lack a few brands or models, but they have something for a Sultan's budget that's for sure.

TheRiddick 01-20-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 726794)
The Vegas one is pretty impressive. Looks about the same size as Chicago. They lack a few brands or models, but they have something for a Sultan's budget that's for sure.

Its about same size, if not smaller, than the original shop on Madison in NYC. The new one they moved to a number of years back is much larger. Great selection, but like you said, one needs a Sultan's budget and a complete disregard for actual discounted prices these watches can be had at.

eber 01-20-2010 03:01 PM

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thats a heck of a watch store :dr

Thrak 01-20-2010 03:11 PM

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Wow, Audemers Piguet all the way down to Invicta lol thats quite a range!

s15driftking 01-20-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 727239)
one needs a Sultan's budget and a complete disregard for actual discounted prices these watches can be had at.

Exactly, many times a watch can be had for 20-25% off of what it lists for, sometimes as much as 30%.

gpugliese 01-21-2010 01:39 PM

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I just got a new watch in, and I have a sizing question. Right now it's a bit too loose, but if I remove one of the links it's way too tight and uncomfortable, so I'm stuck in the middle. Is there anything that can be done about this aside from having someone make a custom link (too much $)?

Does anything exist, maybe a thin round pad of some sort, that could be applied to say the back of the watch to help with the fitment?

e-man67 01-21-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 728584)
I just got a new watch in, and I have a sizing question. Right now it's a bit too loose, but if I remove one of the links it's way too tight and uncomfortable, so I'm stuck in the middle. Is there anything that can be done about this aside from having someone make a custom link (too much $)?

Does anything exist, maybe a thin round pad of some sort, that could be applied to say the back of the watch to help with the fitment?

What about the buckle? is there a pinset with holes? If so you could move that up or back to adjust as well.

gpugliese 01-21-2010 01:43 PM

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You're right, didn't notice that. That would give me a few MM's tighter which might help.

Edit: That helped a little bit, but could still use it slightly tighter.

wayner123 01-21-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 728590)
You're right, didn't notice that. That would give me a few MM's tighter which might help.

Edit: That helped a little bit, but could still use it slightly tighter.

Some brands have half links which are used for this purpose.

Thrak 01-21-2010 03:22 PM

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pics would help, sometimes there are micro adjustments in the clasp (but I think you found those already)...

on the watches I have the 4, 5 or 6 micro adjustments = 1 link span, so its easy to get an exact fit.

mosesbotbol 01-22-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 728584)
I just got a new watch in, and I have a sizing question. Right now it's a bit too loose, but if I remove one of the links it's way too tight and uncomfortable, so I'm stuck in the middle. Is there anything that can be done about this aside from having someone make a custom link (too much $)?

Does anything exist, maybe a thin round pad of some sort, that could be applied to say the back of the watch to help with the fitment?

You can only adjust what the watch has available. Higher end watches it's only the links that adjust. Regular watches have some adjustment in the clasp.

Wear it loose, you'll get use to it. Many people think a watch is too loose initially and then are fine with the fit. The only other solution is to buy a strap and swap the bracelet...

elderboy02 01-22-2010 07:07 AM

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What can you all tell me about Longines? Why are they so cheap? Are they a quality watch?

DrDubzz 01-22-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729442)
What can you all tell me about Longines? Why are they so cheap? Are they a quality watch?

"cheap" being relative ;)

but yes Longines is a quality watch (which you can spend plenty on if you'd like)

it just lacks name recognition

watchtalkforums.info/forums is a good place to read up on some of these

I'm a big fan of the hydroconquest and the admiral lines

elderboy02 01-22-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 729453)
"cheap" being relative ;)

but yes Longines is a quality watch (which you can spend plenty on if you'd like)

it just lacks name recognition

watchtalkforums.info/forums is a good place to read up on some of these

I'm a big fan of the hydroconquest and the admiral lines

e-man told me about a Longines. I don't remember what model it was, just that it had a blue face which I liked. I just never heard of the name before. Well, I don't know anything about watches, the only watch brands I know of are (Rolex, Relic, Fossil, and Timex)

mosesbotbol 01-22-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729442)
What can you all tell me about Longines? Why are they so cheap? Are they a quality watch?

That is a loaded question. Is a Ford cheap? Certainly the Escort is, but Ford GT is not.

Longines is the same level as TAG, Omega, Breitling, Baume Mercier... 800k+ a year manufacturer. When I say at the same level, I mean you are getting a similar watch at what ever price point you want pay.

A 2K Longines will be on part with a 2K Omega in terms of finishing and complications.

Longines name I think has suffered some with lower end products on the market. They should drop them like Omega did. I really dig Longines Charles Lindbergh line. Very classic and understated. A watch you won't get sick of too fast.

elderboy02 01-22-2010 09:13 AM

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This is what I was looking at. Could you tell me your thoughts on it? http://www.worldlux.com/products/lon.../fullsize2.jpg

ir13 01-22-2010 09:14 AM

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Picked up a nice automatic daily watch for a absolute steal,

Lovin It


http://www.echocommerce.net/images/I...tches-9210.jpg

mosesbotbol 01-22-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729639)
This is what I was looking at. Could you tell me your thoughts on it? http://www.worldlux.com/products/lon.../fullsize2.jpg


I like it. It's classic looking without "I want to look like a Rolex" queues. Dark blue and stainless is good combo. No bubble window for date of trident star hour hand.

elderboy02 01-22-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 729698)
I like it. It's classic looking without "I want to look like a Rolex" queues. Dark blue and stainless is good combo. No bubble window for date of trident star hour hand.

Is that good to not have a bubble window?

Parshooter 01-22-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729718)
Is that good to not have a bubble window?

It's a style preference more than anything.

mosesbotbol 01-22-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729718)
Is that good to not have a bubble window?

The bubble window is neat, but it's something style wise is exclusive to Rolex, as is the trident start hour hand. Any watch with those styling queues looks like Rolex imitation.

It does not deter it from being a quality watch, just not as original looking.

s15driftking 01-22-2010 10:56 AM

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i just made a purchase, bought a sweet hommage, pics to come when it gets here! 50mm big'n

e-man67 01-22-2010 11:06 AM

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All divers watches share the same styling ques..they kinda have to. The Longines Hydroconquest looks nothing like a Rolex Submariner...I personally owned one (as well as 3 submariners) and it was an awesome watch. It has much heft to it and it very solid...fit and finish wise it cannot be beat for the price.

s15driftking 01-22-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by e-man67 (Post 729850)
All divers watches share the same styling ques..they kinda have to. .

I'll agree with you due to the thick bezels and the big lumes... but i see huge aesthetic differences in many divers... some i like, some i do not.

wayner123 01-22-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 729829)
i just made a purchase, bought a sweet hommage, pics to come when it gets here! 50mm big'n

an hommage of what?

s15driftking 01-22-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 730417)
an hommage of what?

well i just guess you'll have to wait Mr. Florida! :D

croatan 01-22-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 729596)
Longines name I think has suffered some with lower end products on the market. They should drop them like Omega did. I really dig Longines Charles Lindbergh line. Very classic and understated. A watch you won't get sick of too fast.

Agreed. A good friend was an authorized dealer for quite a while and, from what I understand, another issue they had in the American market was when they allowed them to be manufactured for a while and sold in the US under their label but without really any quality control. For the money, I think they make a very good watch and I'd take one over a Tag and the like.

s15driftking 01-22-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 729639)
This is what I was looking at. Could you tell me your thoughts on it?


Dan, i want to give you my opinion with the warmest of regard as you are an amazing person/BOTL. Its a very classic look dan. With that being said it is also a look that many manufacturers copy and exploit.

I have two points to make.

My opinion (and keep in mind i am just stating how i feel, not telling you how to live your life) is this; the first highend watch you buy (just my opinion) should be something classic that will last a lifetime without going out of style. Think of the possibilities. You can wear it with anything and then pass it down to your son and so on. The watch you posted has a very classic look to it and if this is your first high end watch it is a winning choice.

Point number 2.

After I had my first high end watch or in some cases my "holy grail" I am exploring more "less mainstream" timepieces (in regards to design) because I have a foundation that is special to me and will last a lifetime.


So i guess my main point is this. If that watch is your first high-end timepiece. GO FOR IT! If you already have a classic style highend timepiece spend some time on a good watch forum and see what else is out there before committing to spending another big chunk.

Regardless, its a great looking watch and its very aesthetically pleasing as well (probably why its a very common design). I hope you enjoy whatever watch you decide to buy!

mosesbotbol 01-22-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by croatan (Post 730432)
Agreed. A good friend was an authorized dealer for quite a while and, from what I understand, another issue they had in the American market was when they allowed them to be manufactured for a while and sold in the US under their label but without really any quality control. For the money, I think they make a very good watch and I'd take one over a Tag and the like.


Longines has some watches that are cast the brand in a negative light. There are a lot of Nazi era emblem Longines army watches They are also infamous for their 1972 Munich Olympic watch which actually quite nice looking, but questionable poor taste to wear.


theonlybear4CORT 01-22-2010 08:30 PM

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holla at a playa!
http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-conten...r_watch_on.jpg


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