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Veritas 10-06-2009 12:29 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aich75013 (Post 586358)
If you add it as a new cigar (rather than just changing the #) you can have two or more different prices. They can show as purchased from different locations as well as dates.
I like this because it helps me remember that I paid $x from one location and $y from another.
I guess that would work, it's just that I don't know which one ($x or $y) I'm smoking unless they are from my locker at my standard B&M - all NC locker sticks are ones I bought there.

That is handy for comparing prices from more than one source. It is also a good method for keeping up with how long a particular cigar has been aging. I think I'll use it. I will also try to keep multiples separated so I know their age.

KenS 10-06-2009 01:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 584561)
Ken,

A few suggestions:

- A concept of boxes would be nice, like a total box count or something like that. Maybe even expand the humidor to know what it can hold so I can see where I am against capacity.
This is one that I haven't heard before. Not sure what that implementation would look like, without becoming very complex. Got any detailed suggestions on how it might look?

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- An attribute that holds market value which can be more or less than I paid.
The core database actually has two price fields in it, but I've only exposed one of them in the app so far. I had envisioned a "price paid" and an "msrp", but it feels like very heavy maintenance. Do users really want to track that level of detail? Actually, this may take care of itself, as I'm working on the next version that will allow each user to choose what fields to show for their own copy of the app. That way, people who don't care about all of the fields can simplify it, but those that like the gory details can have that too.

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- A way to get this information from the iPhone to somethign else in case I want to publish a list or I need a record of my collection.
Another feature coming in the next version is the ability to email your humidor contents (to yourself or others) as a text file to import into something like Excel. It will allow you to choose which humidors and which fields to email, so should give some good flexibility.

KenS 10-06-2009 01:45 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 586054)
One more Ken, a way to copy a box. Like normally I buy boxes in quantities of more than one so to simply be able to hit a button and copy date, source etc would be great.
Good idea :tu. I'll add it to the list ;)

KenS 10-06-2009 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 586091)
And a link to Bryan's credit card account would be cool too.
No doubt about it, the best ideas for this app keep coming from Vin :D

KenS 10-06-2009 01:48 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 586350)
This is the first app that I have paid for and I must say that I'm very pleased with it. Great job, Ken.

Are there any plans for an archive of "smoked cigars?" I don't know the mechanics of the code, so I don't know if this would be a colossal update or a simple tweak. I'm envisioning something that takes the current date/time from when I click "Smoke one" and puts it into a list of cigars that are forever a memory. This might be outside the intent of this app, but would be a welcome addition.
A more complete smoking notes capability is still high on the list. One of these days soon, I'll actually get it done ;)

BengalMan 10-06-2009 02:42 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Ken, just downloaded the app, great job! Is there a way for users to add cigars to the database? I'd like to add Cain and Nub Maduro. :) I see you can add cigars to our list, but does it update the actual database or just our app?

CigarNut 10-06-2009 03:34 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BengalMan (Post 586685)
Ken, just downloaded the app, great job! Is there a way for users to add cigars to the database? I'd like to add Cain and Nub Maduro. :) I see you can add cigars to our list, but does it update the actual database or just our app?
Ken made this really easy to do -- just select Cuban or Non-Cuban in the reference and click on the "New Cigar" button at the bottom. Fill out the info and you are all done!

McSmokey 10-06-2009 04:22 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Cigars you add are only added to your phone however you can post brandshere or send ken the info and he will add it to the database when he has time

KenS 10-06-2009 05:48 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 586924)
Cigars you add are only added to your phone however you can post brandshere or send ken the info and he will add it to the database when he has time
Yep, anybody can add cigars to their own copy, but if you want to help out the rest of the users, let me know and I could send you a spreadsheet template to fill in the info. I would then upload that to the online database so everybody would benefit. I've sent the template to quite a few people, but only a few have taken the time to gather the info and return it to me. I guess they find out just how much time and effort it really takes ;)

Let me know what brands you are interested in, and I can add them to my to-do list as well.

McSmokey 10-06-2009 06:00 PM
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Didn't know we could get the template.... PM sent with my email hook me up ken

Addiction 10-06-2009 06:09 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 586350)
...........

On the topic of amount paid, what happens if I buy more of a cigar that I already have but pay a different amount? Does the new amount overwrite the old or is there a weighted average?
Right now if you have Avo 80ths (A) and you enter more Avo 80ths (B) A and B are separate animals as they should be. When A is instantiated its its own entity. There is no function for "What did I pay for all my Avo 80ths and what is the average price for them?"

That function I'd guess is probably a new version of the app since there would be other rudimentary math functions you'd prolly want to expose as part of it, in fact it could be a separate app tho I'd personally prefer if it was the same app and he raised the price a bit.

Think of it as rows in a spread sheet with each row representing an entry.

Addiction 10-06-2009 06:12 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenS (Post 587089)
Yep, anybody can add cigars to their own copy, but if you want to help out the rest of the users, let me know and I could send you a spreadsheet template to fill in the info. I would then upload that to the online database so everybody would benefit. I've sent the template to quite a few people, but only a few have taken the time to gather the info and return it to me. I guess they find out just how much time and effort it really takes ;)

Let me know what brands you are interested in, and I can add them to my to-do list as well.
My own two cents, unless this thing is selling like hotcakes I'd simply let people add to their own copies and do database updates a little less frequently. At this point you have like 2800 cigars represented, thats a pretty fair number.

KenS 10-06-2009 07:02 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 587147)
My own two cents, unless this thing is selling like hotcakes I'd simply let people add to their own copies and do database updates a little less frequently. At this point you have like 2800 cigars represented, thats a pretty fair number.
Actually, we are just short of 3,000 cigars currently, if you tap the update button :)

This is the advantage of developing this as more of a hobby than a business, since I keep trying to make it better even though I'm not getting any money for the updates I do. Certainly not selling "like hotcakes", but I've been pleasantly surprised by the steady sales (about 8 to 10 per day for the past few weeks). If I were doing this as a business, I would have moved on to a new app in order to increase my income, but I do enjoy getting suggestions and continuing to add features. Oh, and because I love you guys :D

KenS 10-06-2009 07:04 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 587142)
Right now if you have Avo 80ths (A) and you enter more Avo 80ths (B) A and B are separate animals as they should be. When A is instantiated its its own entity. There is no function for "What did I pay for all my Avo 80ths and what is the average price for them?"

That function I'd guess is probably a new version of the app since there would be other rudimentary math functions you'd prolly want to expose as part of it, in fact it could be a separate app tho I'd personally prefer if it was the same app and he raised the price a bit.

Think of it as rows in a spread sheet with each row representing an entry.
Well, with the new version I'm working on, you'll be able to export (via email) your whole inventory into a spreadsheet, and you can calculate 'til your heart's content :tu

Addiction 10-06-2009 07:10 PM
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Cool beans. I sold a couple today I believe through word of mouth. The app rocks!

KenS 10-06-2009 07:13 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
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Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 587305)
Cool beans. I sold a couple today I believe through word of mouth. The app rocks!
Thank you sir. Word of mouth is what it's all about :tu.

of course, word of <other body parts> is far less effective :r

Mark 10-06-2009 07:17 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Any chance on a BlackBerry version?

Addiction 10-06-2009 07:20 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
One other thing I'd love to see since I think you may still be reading. A way to move cigars from wishlist to humidor once you make the purchase.

KenS 10-06-2009 07:54 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 587331)
One other thing I'd love to see since I think you may still be reading. A way to move cigars from wishlist to humidor once you make the purchase.
Yup, and a way to move cigars between humidors easily. Just takes a while to come up with the user interface that keeps the app easy to use, without becoming too complex or cluttered. It's on the list (familiar refrain ;))

KenS 10-06-2009 07:57 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark (Post 587325)
Any chance on a BlackBerry version?
Short answer: nope.
Longer answer: nope.

If you read through the thread, you'll see that this is often asked (including recently). BB is a completely different beast to program for, and frankly doesn't have the user interface capabilities of the iPhone (I use both every day, so this is not an attempt to start a BB vs. iPhone debate).

GoldnGT 10-06-2009 08:24 PM
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Ken, I might suggest one thing to you, more recomended for this thread than the app. You need to make a FAQ for your app that covers some of the questions (Such as the BB app) and other stuf that might be asked consistantly, and have one of the mods edit your first post in the thread to have the answers to some of those questions.

Also, sending a PM to get the spreadsheet sent over.

KenS 10-06-2009 08:34 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldnGT (Post 587484)
Ken, I might suggest one thing to you, more recomended for this thread than the app. You need to make a FAQ for your app that covers some of the questions (Such as the BB app) and other stuf that might be asked consistantly, and have one of the mods edit your first post in the thread to have the answers to some of those questions.

Also, sending a PM to get the spreadsheet sent over.
I have a basic FAQ at the support website: www.mobilestogie.com, but yours is a good idea as well. And I'm sure the website needs some updates too :)

Might be time to hire a staff ;)

KenS 10-06-2009 08:48 PM
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Anybody willing to take a cut at Taboo cigars info? I had emailed back and forth a while back with Rob@Taboo, but never got the info from him. I haven't been able to easily get a complete picture of all of the cigars, so anybody else who willing to give it a shot? Any help would be appreciated :tu

McSmokey 10-06-2009 09:08 PM
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I'll take a stab at it since I'm at least one requester of this info :tu

GoldnGT 10-07-2009 08:03 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenS (Post 587498)
I have a basic FAQ at the support website: www.mobilestogie.com, but yours is a good idea as well. And I'm sure the website needs some updates too :)

Might be time to hire a staff ;)
Could be =) I was just suggesting the first since at least once a week someone asks "Do you have a BB version coming out?" haha.

aich75013 10-07-2009 09:19 AM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
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Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 587558)
I'll take a stab at it since I'm at least one requester of this info :tu
Justin,
I'll PM you what I have.
It's not much, but can give you a starting point.

McSmokey 10-07-2009 09:40 AM
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Thanks Adrian every little bit helps :tu

McSmokey 10-08-2009 03:37 PM
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Ken got an email inbound to you with a few sticks on it

KenS 10-08-2009 03:40 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
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Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 590889)
Ken got an email inbound to you with a few sticks on it
Just checked it out. Good info, I'll upload it when I get home tonight (I hope).

sikk50 10-08-2009 06:00 PM
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Ken, I just realized the app is missing Casa Magna's. Pretty easy though I think Wrapper, Binder, and Filler are all Nicaraguan

KenS 10-08-2009 06:44 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 590889)
Ken got an email inbound to you with a few sticks on it
Just added the ones you sent me, as well as a few odds and ends that I have in my humidor (Tat El Triunfador, Brazilian Dona Flor, and a Tat Havana that is a Holt's exclusive). Total of 37 new ones added.

Thanks for the help :tu

KenS 10-08-2009 06:47 PM
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By the way, this also puts us over 3,000 cigars in the reference database, so we are making good progress :)

I've been exchanging email with Famous Smoke Shop, and they are going to provide me all of the info for their house brands, as well as any and all cigars that they have as exclusives. So, more to come :)

KenS 10-08-2009 07:14 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 591087)
Ken, I just realized the app is missing Casa Magna's. Pretty easy though I think Wrapper, Binder, and Filler are all Nicaraguan
They are there now :ss

sikk50 10-08-2009 07:54 PM
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:wo Thank you!

Addiction 10-10-2009 01:52 PM
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Ken I found something else I'd like. An option to move cigars between humis.

sikk50 10-10-2009 02:13 PM
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Ken, can you add Nestor Miranda more specificaly Special Selection

KenS 10-10-2009 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Addiction (Post 593859)
Ken I found something else I'd like. An option to move cigars between humis.
Working on it today. I need that feature too :D

KenS 10-11-2009 12:32 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 593874)
Ken, can you add Nestor Miranda more specificaly Special Selection
Done :tu

KenS 10-11-2009 12:49 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 581463)
Things to add:
Zino Platinum Crown Series: Emperor Edition 2K9, Stretch
More Taboo
:tu
Added the Emperor Edition 2009 (a robusto). The stretch was already in the database.
Still hoping for help with Taboo :)

wavescrashing 10-11-2009 12:54 PM
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Ken, it looks like a fantastic App. I had been working on a somewhat similar idea for the Google phone (Android OS platform) and just stumbled upon this thread.

KenS 10-11-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mkr160 (Post 530318)
How bout some Kristoff's.
How 'bout 20 of em? Ok, done :D

KenS 10-11-2009 01:31 PM
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ok, I just reviewed this entire thread, and I think I've added all cigar brands that have been requested here (except Taboo which is being worked, I hope). Certainly there are many more that I could add, but the requests are up to date.

Total of 3,077 cigars and 126 brands.

Let me know what else is missing, and more importantly, let me know of any errors that you see as you use the app. I'm sure there are likely some typos, and I'd like to clean it up as much as possible.

Thanks for all the help and support :tu

troutbreath 10-11-2009 01:33 PM
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Great app, Ken. Put in some time updating my inventory on Friday. I had gotten some Cain's a few weeks ago, and had not put them in because I was going to have to update the database. Then, on Friday, I did the auto-update and there they were.

Lots of fun!

KenS 10-13-2009 02:23 PM
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More feedback requested:

I just got a file from Famous Smoke Shop with a listing of their house and exclusive brands, with info to import into Mobile Stogie. But they omitted 'binder', 'filler', and 'wrapper' info. How important is that info to include in the app? It seems like it's always a pain in the a$$ to collect that info, and I don't personally use it for anything, but wanted to get feedback from other users.

I've emailed back asking for that data, but have my doubts about them sending it.

Thoughts?

BTW, the list includes 1,485 records !!! Some of them are 'bundles' of more than one cigar, so I won't include those, but still this will add a hell of a lot of new cigars to the database. It also means I have to make a more efficient way to get to the info in the app (search, index, etc.); I'll be working on that...

tenbaseg 10-13-2009 04:36 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenS (Post 598061)
More feedback requested:

I just got a file from Famous Smoke Shop with a listing of their house and exclusive brands, with info to import into Mobile Stogie. But they omitted 'binder', 'filler', and 'wrapper' info. How important is that info to include in the app? It seems like it's always a pain in the a$$ to collect that info, and I don't personally use it for anything, but wanted to get feedback from other users.

I've emailed back asking for that data, but have my doubts about them sending it.

Thoughts?

BTW, the list includes 1,485 records !!! Some of them are 'bundles' of more than one cigar, so I won't include those, but still this will add a hell of a lot of new cigars to the database. It also means I have to make a more efficient way to get to the info in the app (search, index, etc.); I'll be working on that...
It's not super important for me to have the info. I use the app for inventory, and tasting notes. If I'm really curious about an origin, I'd look it up., :2

massphatness 10-13-2009 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tenbaseg (Post 598253)
It's not super important for me to have the info. I use the app for inventory, and tasting notes. If I'm really curious about an origin, I'd look it up., :2
:tpd: ditto

sikk50 10-13-2009 06:42 PM
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I very rarely use it to see what regions the tobacco came from.

jdakine 10-13-2009 07:03 PM
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I like the app, i now have a better inventory of my cigars and when I purchased. Easy to use and to input cigars that may not be on the app it self.

massphatness 10-13-2009 07:06 PM
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You know what else rocks about this app?

99% of the time I'm at work when I see something in the TAW thread I want or the MAW thread I want to grant. Prior to Mobile Stogie I never wanted to post up because I wasn't 100% sure of my inventory. No longer a problem. It is easily a Top 10 app for me (which I guess is a sad commentary on my life, but what the hell).

McSmokey 10-13-2009 07:12 PM
Re: iPhone Cigar App RELEASED!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 598518)
You know what else rocks about this app?

99% of the time I'm at work when I see something in the TAW thread I want or the MAW thread I want to grant. Prior to Mobile Stogie I never wanted to post up because I wasn't 100% sure of my inventory. No longer a problem. It is easily a Top 10 app for me (which I guess is a sad commentary on my life, but what the hell).
:tpd: but I think I've moved a little farther than this since I now spend spare time sending stuff to ken to add to the database. Which reminds me you will probably get another email from me Friday if I can get it done before company shows up :tu


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