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Brian D. 09-06-2013 07:32 AM

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Guess ya shoulda gone to Thursday's game instead! :banger

elderboy02 09-06-2013 08:59 AM

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Well, we just won the series against the Cardinals. I though everyone on here was saying that we couldn't beat winning teams :sh:sh

hotreds 09-06-2013 10:28 AM

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Not "everyone."

Cincymike 09-06-2013 01:35 PM

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I didn't say they couldn't beat winning teams, just said they weren't good enough to win the division.

Cincymike 09-08-2013 03:51 PM

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Going tonight.....cheap seats in the upper deck but free :). Looking forward to seeing Clayton Kershaw in person It will be tough for the Reds to score runs, but if Homer is on, should be a good game. GO REDLEGS!!!

elderboy02 09-08-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1866782)
...Once again, this team can't beat teams with winning records. That's not gonna cut it in the playoffs, especially a one game playoff.

We just swept the Dodgers.... ;)

chippewastud79 09-09-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1881349)
We just swept the Dodgers.... ;)

Winning at the right time is definitely giving them a shot at the division. Their momentum certainly didn't help them tonight against the Cubs, of all teams. The Cards have had a bad stretch, as have the Dodgers (who happen to be 11 games up). Hopefully they peak at the right time, and avoid the 1 game playoff. This team seems to be all or nothing, so a 1 gamer doesn't have me overly confident. :2

elderboy02 09-10-2013 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1881694)
Winning at the right time is definitely giving them a shot at the division. Their momentum certainly didn't help them tonight against the Cubs, of all teams. The Cards have had a bad stretch, as have the Dodgers (who happen to be 11 games up). Hopefully they peak at the right time, and avoid the 1 game playoff. This team seems to be all or nothing, so a 1 gamer doesn't have me overly confident. :2

I hate the 1 game playoff as well. Selig is smoking crack as usual.... "Hey, lets play 162 games, and then decide the playoffs for a team with a coin flip" :td

Brian D. 09-10-2013 09:48 AM

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Stretching the post season into November...someday they'll end up with two northern, non-domed stadiums to play the World Series in, and Mother Nature won't be co-operating.

Cincymike 09-11-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cincymike (Post 1880783)
I didn't say they couldn't beat winning teams, just said they weren't good enough to win the division.

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hotreds 09-11-2013 08:33 AM

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At this rate, they don't DESERVE to even be in the playoffs!

Brian D. 09-12-2013 06:51 AM

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Reds looked a little better yesterday. But they just can't get caught up with the Pirates and Cards.

Brian D. 09-16-2013 12:58 PM

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Milwaukee takes two out of three from the Reds?? Yikes thats bad right about now.

elderboy02 09-17-2013 07:29 AM

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Only 2.5 games back :tu

Cincymike 09-17-2013 12:22 PM

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2.5 back with 11 to play and 2 teams ahead of you is a lot tougher than you think

elderboy02 09-17-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cincymike (Post 1883706)
2.5 back with 11 to play and 2 teams ahead of you is a lot tougher than you think

I respectfully disagree. We play the Pirates 6 more times. I don't think the Cardinals will win every night from here on out...

Cincymike 09-18-2013 07:29 AM

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I hope they can do it, but if the Cardinals play .500 ball it will be tough even if the Reds sweep the Pirates. Just sayin....

Brian D. 09-19-2013 11:56 AM

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Sweep! Billy Hamilton's been doing enough stealing to make a Congressman proud!

Cincymike 09-22-2013 10:13 AM

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It's a race for second place.

elderboy02 09-23-2013 12:09 PM

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Hey!!!! Look, the Reds won another series against a winning team... Haters gonna hate...

chippewastud79 09-23-2013 12:26 PM

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I think we all realize that they are going to make the playoffs, and they are hitting their stride at the right time. But lets just remember they hare hardly world beaters this season, the Reds only have a winning record against 2 teams who actually have a winning record. And their whopping winning record against those teams is 4-3 against both Arizona and LA. Luckily they did some serious damage against the bottom end of the NL, because they lost the season series to the Cardinals and are 8-8 against Pittsburgh going into their three game stint to end the season. :2

elderboy02 09-24-2013 08:44 AM

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Reds clinched the playoffs last night :tu

I will be at the game tonight :tu

Starscream 09-24-2013 02:59 PM

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One game playoff, here we come.

Starscream 09-24-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1885241)
I think we all realize that they are going to make the playoffs, and they are hitting their stride at the right time. But lets just remember they hare hardly world beaters this season, the Reds only have a winning record against 2 teams who actually have a winning record. And their whopping winning record against those teams is 4-3 against both Arizona and LA. Luckily they did some serious damage against the bottom end of the NL, because they lost the season series to the Cardinals and are 8-8 against Pittsburgh going into their three game stint to end the season. :2

I'm not putting much stock in them this year, but we've seen teams worse than this win the WS. It's slim, but there is some hope.

Cincymike 09-28-2013 08:03 AM

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They are playing like they have a plane to catch to Pittsburgh.

elderboy02 09-29-2013 07:21 PM

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Tuesday will be interesting!

Starscream 10-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Ballgame.

Cincymike 10-01-2013 07:42 PM

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Now they're playing like they have a plane to catch to Cincinnati.
Very disappointing.

chippewastud79 10-01-2013 09:29 PM

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Good thing no one decided to play today. Hope Votto's 200 million is easy to unload in the future, because he looks like he could care less and his stats say the same. :bh

elderboy02 10-02-2013 04:55 AM

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Wow, Liriano was totally unhittable. That slider is awesome.

hotreds 10-02-2013 08:46 AM

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unsurprising result, Bucs wanted it, Reds didn't care.

chippewastud79 10-02-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1887382)
Wow, Liriano was totally unhittable. That slider is awesome.

Liriano may have pitched well, but the lack of leadership or will to win was evident from the entire Reds team. The Reds checked out as soon as they clinched their playoff spot. :bh

elderboy02 10-02-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1887456)
Liriano may have pitched well, but the lack of leadership or will to win was evident from the entire Reds team. The Reds checked out as soon as they clinched their playoff spot. :bh

I don't think they checked out. They just couldn't hit a better Pirates team.

chippewastud79 10-02-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1887457)
I don't think they checked out. They just couldn't hit a better Pirates team.

Did you watch the games this last week or last night? No emotion, no leadership, someone on 700 WLW, who was in the locker room at the final series said that you couldn't even tell whether they won or lost after the games. Cueto drops the ball on the mound and then gives up a homerun, Phillips botches a double play ball, Votto can't scoop a hard grounder, no emotion after any of them. Just a few examples from last night. :confused:

elderboy02 10-02-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1887465)
Did you watch the games this last week or last night? No emotion, no leadership, someone on 700 WLW, who was in the locker room at the final series said that you couldn't even tell whether they won or lost after the games. Cueto drops the ball on the mound and then gives up a homerun, Phillips botches a double play ball, Votto can't scoop a hard grounder, no emotion after any of them. Just a few examples from last night. :confused:

Ehhh... I will agree with you on most of that. Sure they checked out, but did you see Liriano's slider last night? That was one wicked pitch. Looks like a strike and then it is in the dirt.

shilala 10-02-2013 09:40 AM

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Sorry about the game last night, guys.
I don't think your boys played with a whole lot of confidence, but my guess is that they really weren't prepared for what they found in Burgh when they got there.
Between the crowd and Liriano being dialed in, that had to be one huge distraction to overcome.
I really didn't expect to see the boots and the error from Cinnci. I can't explain them except for nerves. If the guys haven't had a lot of cohesiveness in the clubhouse, and were all out there as single players, there'd be lots of nerves.
I feel bad for the fans, you guys have a rightful gripe, for sure.

I'm excited to see how far the Pirates can take their season now.
If it's any consolation, it's nice to see my boys not suck for awhile. :tu

Cincymike 10-02-2013 12:53 PM

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I agree with the stud. I know Votto left a man on 2nd at least twice; couldn't even hit a long fly to advance him. Cueto got rattled early. If Rolen were still around, he would have kicked ass in the clubhouse. They have NO on field leadership....... NONE.....the last 7 games were a strong testament to that. They need some big changes in that clubhouse.

Starscream 10-02-2013 08:15 PM

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Votto saying that getting on base is more important than driving runs in is a big part of the problem. That's two hole hitter mentality, not $200 million mentality.
Cueto smiling in the dugout last night after he was pulled is another part of the problem.
Dusty not getting his team pumped up, no sense of urgency is another part of the problem.
Complacency in the clubhouse and nomchalant attitudes from everyone but Phillips and Frazier is the biggest problem. They just don't care, so why should we? Ticket sales will drop next year if the complacent attitude from this team continues.

chippewastud79 10-03-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1887640)
Votto saying that getting on base is more important than driving runs in is a big part of the problem. That's two hole hitter mentality, not $200 million mentality.

His mentality, coupled with a 0-4 in the only game that mattered, speaks volumes about how drastically over-paid he was this season. At first, I thought that Votto was a bargain at $200+ million, now it appears as if it is a giant waste of money. When was the last time a $200 million player actually lived up to the contract though? :sh

Brian D. 10-03-2013 01:30 PM

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Is it time for "a sense of urgency" yet?

Brian D. 10-03-2013 01:36 PM

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Next year during the broadcasts, a new sponsor is coming on board, to make a donation every time the Reds leave a runner on base.

The promotion will be called "Stuck on first", sponsored by Gorilla Glue. :ss

elderboy02 10-03-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D. (Post 1887852)
Next year during the broadcasts, a new sponsor is coming on board, to make a donation every time the Reds leave a runner on base.

The promotion will be called "Stuck on first", sponsored by Gorilla Glue. :ss

:r Good one! :tu

chippewastud79 10-04-2013 06:54 AM

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No more Dusty. Maybe the Reds will get a manager with some fire, who won't allow lackadaisical crap. Joe Girardi is available, or maybe Barry Larkin wants to come to the dugout. :hm

elderboy02 10-04-2013 09:43 AM

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I hate to see Dusty go. It isn't his fault Votto, Bruce, Phillips went 1/12 the other day. Oh well, hopefully they get Barry Larkin as manager and Sean Casey as hitting coach :)

chippewastud79 10-04-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1888084)
I hate to see Dusty go. It isn't his fault Votto, Bruce, Phillips went 1/12 the other day. Oh well, hopefully they get Barry Larkin as manager and Sean Casey as hitting coach :)

No, but he has to be partially to blame for having the most talented roster in the NL Central, failing to win the division or even hosting the wild card game, and fizzling at the end of the season every year they made the playoffs. The "Players coach" moniker can only get you so far. :hm

Apparently, Jim Tracy now resides in Cincinnati, and Tony LaRussa is still available as well. Luring Girardi away from the Yankees will be an impossible task, with the Cubs likely to offer him whatever he wants, and I think he still ends up back in pinstripes. As much as I would like to see how Barry could do as a manager, and how much hype/excitement it would bring to the Reds, I feel like hype is where it would end. :2

688sonarmen 10-05-2013 05:47 AM

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Sorry to see Dusty go.

chippewastud79 10-05-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1888292)
Sorry to see Dusty go.

As a Cardinal fan, I am sure you are. ;)

Brian D. 10-05-2013 12:12 PM

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A reporter should ask Reds owner Bob Castellini if there is "a sense of urgency" to find a new manager. :D

(Sorry, non-locals, that quote about urgency is from a question Dusty Baker replied to going into the final week or so of the season. It appears Baker's answer didn't help his chances of staying employed.)

Anyhow, I vote for Tony Perez, the Reds only kept him around for 44 games after they hired him as manager last time. Not nice, and the front office never gave any sort of understandable reason. Yeah, I like to hold a grudge every so often..:tu

Brian D. 10-22-2013 10:55 AM

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Reds set to announce pitching coach Brian Price as new manager later today. I will let those with more baseball acumen discuss if this example of promoting-from-within is a good idea.

elderboy02 10-22-2013 11:41 AM

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I am indifferent about the hire. I would have liked to see Larkin or Paul O'Neill in there, but Price should be fine.


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