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Obviously a rank amateur that hasn't taken that many shots of guns in action. Definitely luck to get such awesome pics of a Thompson's brass in almost perfect synch in mid air.

Roland, go get some more practice taking pics of other people's guns. :rolleyes::cool2:;)

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Ironic how I was thinking the exact same thing. Never met a gun enthusiast who isn't glad to talk about his guns as well as his right to bear arms.

Full of sarcasm and attitude for such a newbie as well.

I've vowed to limit the amount of times I call BS, but since you did...... Bravo!

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Okay, okay... I like guns a little, and sometimes I take some pics of people shooting guns...

You guys saw through my charade! Bravo! Well played!:D

:cb

-Roland.

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Well played>?? I doubt you even took the pics. I'll even guess you googled them and went through a lot of work organizing them and posting them hoping someone would be impressed.
Quite possibly copyrighted material as well.

Poorly played, and might I suggest introducing yourself in the new inmate section??

You wasted your first 4 posts making a jackass of yourself, but fortunately did it in the firearms thread, not a trade or pif thread.

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*shrug* all those pics are absolutely from the same location, probably even the same day...

also his screen name lends itself to him being a gunslinger.

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Sweet pics. As far as ammo goes.. ammunitiontogo.com is where it is at. Pretty solid prices and one of the best ammo selections I have ever seen.

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They jacked the price way up on ammo, and mags. Basically anthing that could be construed as an assault weapon.

example our low price $7.00
List Price $3.50
Your Savings -3.50 -100%

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The store and range I use is huge and they have a lot of buying power and great prices. Lately, though, certain brands and ammo are in short supply.

Smaller Glocks, for example, are on backorder.

I'd imagine I'll find the Gold Dots soon enough.

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Wow. ooookay.

Just for the record, I love to shoot guns, and have been since I could hold one. I also find shooting a camera fun too. Trust me when I say, I own all the copyrights to the images I posted.

Sorry if I ruffled anyones feathers.

Some more just for fun...

Someone always calles "photoshop" on this one...
http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/196589531_suJU3-L.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/197172873_7Wp8R-L.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/197325804_jR8KX-L.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/164049420_5NRHN-L.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/165108310_tWTf3-L.jpg

-Roland.

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I love those photos Roland! Welcome!

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sorry Roland. Good pics and glad to see some nice firearms.

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Was this even necessary?

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No worries.

I should have used more smilies!

;)

:D

:cb

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It's not you Roland, nor your lack of smiley faces, and it wasn't necessary Jordan. It's ME, I am an asshole most of the time and should think before I post ALL the time. Again, I am sorry for my stupid post. Amazing they gave me a concealed weapon permit, huh????

Anyway, for those who use guns, I was wondering if anyone feels there is any merit to carrying a speedloader for a revolver? Personally, I find it cumbersome and doubt I would ever use it.

Lastly, does anyone have any experience with Crimson Trace laser grips?

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Don't worry about it floyd. Everyone makes mistakes.

Speedloaders - I have a few of them. I don't carry them on a regular basis. I too find them cumbersome. I only carry them on certain occasions (going to the range, going to very bad neighborhoods).

Crimson Trace Laser Grips - I have them on my Glock 23. I abosolutely love them. I also carry my G23 and they do not get in the way. I actually find that they help me grip the gun better. I like the ability to think that if I ever had to lay on my side and shoot my gun, I could just use my laser to find my target. I think it would be hard to line up the sights horizontally. Also, imagine trying to line up your sights with one hand.

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I don't think I would carry a speed loader for a revolver. If I was to carry a revolver (I'm thinking about a S&W 340PD) it's because I want to drop it in my pocket and forget about it. A speed loader would be more poop in my pockets/on my belt. I normally carry a Glock 23 and a mag or two.

I have used Crimson Trace a few times. They're based here in Beaverton, Oregon and they have been to a few matches that I have been to. One time, they used a Sig in .45ACP as a "pick up gun" and it was equipped with the grips. I didn't really even notice the laser because I was using the sites (it was daytime). I have seen people use them with great effect in night matches though.

-Mark.

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No worries floyd ;)


As for the speedloader, I can't help but think of Boondock Saints.

("There's 9 bodies genius, what were you gonna do? LAUGH THE LAST 3 TO DEATH? FUNNY MAN" :r)

Some say if you need more than 6 shots, you don't need a handgun, you need a SWAT team.

The odds of you needing more than 6 shots are 1 in a million instances where you'd need a gun. My philosophy is if you're already preparing for that 1 in a million chance where you might need a gun, what's the harm in preparing for that 1 in 1 trillion chance you'll need more than 6 shots ;) :r

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Malfunctions happen. Even though my XDm holds 17, if the first round jams or double feeds and I must perform a failure / clearing drill, I will need a 2nd magazine or I'm out of action.

And that isn't a good thing.

I will not be shot for lack of shooting back.

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With an autoloader, I agree. But with a small 5 or 6 shot revolver... Not so much.


-Roland.

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I've been told that he average gunfight, or incident, imvolves 3 total shots, takes place under 7 yards, and lasts less than 10 seconds, so if anything, I might try out those speed strips, which don't take up much space at all.

I like the Crimson Traces, but really like the new grips the're putting on the S&W Airweight 642 I carry. I'm almost positive they make a model with the traces on them, so maybe I should hold one before plopping down the $250 for the grips.

They are definitely a nice modification and, if nothing else, the psychological effect of a laser on a badguy's chest might avoid a situation I hope to never actually be in, but am prepared and practicing to be in if needed.

I'm glad that there's a firemarm thread here as it is one of the first I go to lately, especially after drinking.:r

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That's precisely the reason I traded in my Kel Tec P11, the lightest 9 mm made.

It was very concealable, but misfed at least once every 10 rounds. I was in forum that encouraged new users to put 200 rounds through it before trusting it as well as taking a dremel and polishing the feed ramp and doing light sanding inside the slide, etc. They call it a "Kel Tec fluff and buff". The problems I mentioned are common in Kel Tecs.

Combined with the large amount of plastic and 9 pound and very long trigger pull, it wasn't a gun I wanted to trust with my life, no matter how easy it was to carry.

I've always been a fan of revolvers due to the lack of buttons, moving parts, safeties, etc, as well as the fact they go "bang" EVERY time you pull the trigger.

I couldn't be happier with my Smith and Wesson J Frame.

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well if you do want to carry a speed loader for a revolver, don't forget the speed strips that you can use versus the traditional speed loaders. just like anything else it takes practice to use them properly, but i have seen reloads done pretty quick with the speed strips.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=243389

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Those two look good Catfish. I've been looking at some Glocks, the G30 and G36, in .45 for when I apply for my concealed carry permit in a few months. But I liked the looks of those SA's also.

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My first and best possible piece of advice to anyone considering their first handgun:

Find a range that allows you to rent / shoot several models of weapon before you spend $400 - $1000 on a gun only to find you are uncomfortable holding it to fire it.

Even though most models available have many of the same / similar features you may be desire, the MOST important aspect of a gun ( ESPECIALLY one used for personal defense / concealed carry ) is the degree to which you are comfortable operating it.

The grip centerline to barrel angle makes some weapons feel very different to bring on target comfortably to an individual.

Also, the width of a grip makes certain guns feel more or less comfortable to a shooter.

In my personal case, the grip to barrel angle of a 1911 is perfect. The Springfield XDM's angle is very close to that of a 1911. Also, for being a high capacity automatic, the grip width is very narrow. A feature I find extremely valuable as my hands are not very large.

There are many, many aspects to an automatic or even a revolver to consider when buying a gun. The best thing you can do is be patient and explore your options before dropping the amount of money you will for a gun.

Remember, like anything else, as soon as you walk out of the place you purchased it from, the weapon is now considered used and very rarely will you get what if not more than you paid for it should you choose to sell it.

Any questions you have, please ask. Any answer I can't give I'll be more than happy to direct you to a place you can find one.

Good luck on your search and I hope you find something that is comforting, if not comfortable to carry.

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That's great advice Catfish. I like Glocks a lot and love Sig Sauers. Glocks never feel right in my hand though and Sigs are a bit too pricey for a second gun.

I would advise anyone thinking a getting a concealeled weapon to take the class and file the papers now. Once you get the gun and start wanting to carry it, the 90 day wait for the permit will seem like a lifetime.

Start the process now, even if you're not sure what firearm you want to carry.

Also if you find a small Glock, like a G19 available on the shelf, you're lucky. I never see them and I go to a very large dealer. Then again, I can't even find short barrell Speer Gold Dots that aren't backordered.

PS. That XDM 40 is really nice. I shot one.

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Alright, Im on the hunt for ammo. Particularly .308 and 30-30. I went to that ammunitiontogo.com and I had some 30-30 in my basket and when I went back last night my basket was empty and there was no 30-30 in 150 gr. even mentioned on the website. Does anyone know anywhere that still has ammo?

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I found a pretty good website for ammo

http://outdoormarksman.com

They have reasonable prices and seem to have a good stock. Also they have 2 different warehouses for east and west coast orders.

I bought Federal 30-30 at 13.99 a box
and
Federal .308 at 17.50 a box

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Thanks for that advice Catfish, it sounds good. I've only ever fired a Glock .45 and a .357 magnum, double-action only, but the Glock was extremely accurate and easy to manage for me. But I may try out some more at a range, that definitely couldn't hurt.

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I was searching and searching for Speer Gold Dot short barrel and ammunitiontogo was the only place I found it. They sent me a confirmation that also said it will be up to 9 days before they even ship it due to the extremely high sales volume.

Ammunition To Go
------------------------------------------------------
Order Number: 97258
Detailed Invoice: https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catal...order_id=97258
Date Ordered: Monday 23 February, 2009

The comments for your order are

Thank you for your order. Due to an extremely high number of orders, your product will be shipped out within 9 - 12 working business days.

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I received my LTC in the mail today, much much faster than I expected (only took about 4 weeks versus the estimated 10-12 week wait I had heard as of late).

I'm quite happy. :)

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I assume you mean your CCW permit?

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License to Carry I believe he means.

Did you do the electric fingerprints at a police station? If so, that's why it went faster.....

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I had my order all ready to go at ammunitiontogo.com but I went back today to check out and I kinda got screwed over and thats when I searched for ammo prices. I hope the same thing doesnt happen when I go to check out at outdoormarksman.com

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hey floyd




http://east.outdoormarksman.com/adva..._description=1



Im not sure if its any help but they have speer gold dot

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Thanks brother, I appreciate it, but just ordered 20 and that should hold me over.

I am still trying to decide whether or not to get the Crimson Trace grips and am told the cheaer model isn't worth it and you need to get the $300 ones, which is kinda pricey.

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My ammotogo order shipped in 3 days despite that disclaimer, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm pumped. Should be here this week... 500+ 9mm rounds some tracers to feed the Bushmonster.

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No, in order to own or purchase a handgun in Mass you need a LTC. Shotguns and rifles can apply for a FID, but it's still a complicated and long process. Because I live in Boston, they deny concealed carry to 99.9% of applicants (that's an entirely different conversation), but I can easily pick up a NH CCW now. I've got family up there and visit often.

Floyd, only my right index was digitally scanned, which is used in addition to a PIN when purchasing firearms from a FFL. They did the standard ink printing for the background/criminal check.

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I know I said earlier (way earlier) the guns that I owned. Well here's some gun p*rn. Here's the pistols.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1408
Overview

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1409
Duty Weapon Glock 23 with high cap magazine

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1410
Walther PPKS .380 issued as backup

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1413
S&W .38 airweight

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1414
Old .22 Husqvarna passed down from my grandfather to father to me

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Here comes the long guns.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1415
Shotguns, small one is a H&R .410, Remington 870 12 gauge and my new and never shot Benelli 3 1/2" Magnum Super Nova (DU Edition)

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1411
H&R 3" 12 gauge single-shot slugmaster and a Marlin .22 bolt action

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1412
Remington Wingmaster 760 30.06 and my T/C muzzleloader

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My Remington 1100 should be here this Friday. Woo hoo

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Got a tax return burning a hole in my pocket, so I went out and bought the Crimson Laer Trace grips for my S&W 38.

After reading and reading, it seemed that ponying up the extra hundred bucks for the 405 model was the way to go as the 305 model seriously compromises pocket conceal due to its size. The grips on the 305 are a lot longer than the others as well, which maked the gun larger.

The guys in the tactical department at the store/range were slow, so they installed the grips for me. The sights ligned up perfectly, so it was time for a range test.

I wouldn't normally use 148 grain jhps for target practice, but the store has had them on sale and they're only a couple bucks more than the cheap stuff and I always like to practice with real life ammo if it's affordable.

I bought three silouettes and started at 7 yards. I am normally a decent shot, but with the laser, I put everything directly on the center red X.

Further distances and aging eyes are normally where my challenges start, but dang, 25 yards and my little snubbie is still dead on.

I'm not sure if the CT's are gonna help in a tense situation, but they certainly won't hurt, especially in low light.

All in all, this is a very cool thing to add to a gun and I really am glad I did.

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Congrats on the laser grips purchase Floyd! They are awesome!

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Thanks for the crimson trace review.

I may get some one day, but for now I am too cheap and more importantly I want to continue to improve using the standard sights before upgrading to them so I'll just be that much better.

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I'm sure I don't need to remind you of this but i've seen it before so I'll say it anyways. Make certain you still practice w/o the laser. Just like the highest quality weapon can malfunction, so can lasers. Getting comfortable with that "point-and-click" accuracy of a laser can be addicting and lure you into relying on it.

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My brother is a Sgt up North and constantly reminds me to not forget how to shoot and I won't.

Catfish, thanks for the link, just became a lifetime member of NRA!!!

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Outstanding!

A couple guys here wanted to join but are lazy. I signed em up for the "no magazine" membership, eeheheheheh. WTF... Only $10 apiece to add another member to the numbers!!

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I only have the factory photo of my pistol. It's also my avatar. Here's the larger version...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...um/kimber2.jpg

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Nice! I am also a lifetime member of the NRA. I love being able to vote in the annual elections.

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Nice weapon, 357.

Be careful around boats!

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Thanks,


but, boats?