Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Mississippi state is hanging with LSU, barely. I didn't see that one coming. LSU might be a bit worse for wear after last week too. I still don't think Mississippi state can win, but it isn't a complete embarrassment like their last two games.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

At least you can watch it....no cable in my house. But Miss State is still a capable football team, just woefully
inconsistent. That's all coaching; bama has great players and great coaching and they keep them motivated and
performing at a high level. You can get very close with just talent. But you can't play well all the time that way.
MSU is completely capable of beating the tigers tonight. But LSU is in business to make it happen in the 4th qtr.
Watch for the relentless running game to just wear em down. Make no mistake, LSU can RUN the ball.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

That sucks, we got cable specifically for the games after one week we weren't able to watch anything we gave a crap about online, ESPN sucks sometimes. Mettenberger looks like the real deal, he isn't having as good a game as last week, but way better than in the early season.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies. :r

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

:r:r:r

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Two things regarding the end of the game.

WTF was McCaron thinking throwing into coverage...again?

Who jumps offsides on a punt?

Killers of mistakes...

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

The mistake that actually caused the GAME TO END and shut the door for good was a simple error that cannot
be said to have cost bama the game. No more than the fact that bama was charged with a foul for an illegal hit and
then the very same thing happens and A&M gets off scott free. I have said it here too many times to count,
you HAVE to win the game so convincingly that no error can cost you the game. Or else you do not "deserve to win."
bama fans here made it plain they felt they deserved to win, but that's FANDOM. That is not one of my usual comments
intended to rile fans. If you fail to win the game going away, you cannot fault a over-anxious kid for jumping into the
neutral zone. When bama lost to LSU in the regular season last year, it was not the kicker who lost the game.
It was the kicking game as a whole that failed the tide, as did the un-characteristic bad decision by Ol' Nicky to put his
kicker in an impossible spot. An irony is that les Miles turned around and gave it right back to Saban this time
around...yards longer than his kicker's career best...foolishness.

It seemed to me that the game was lost on conditioning. The kid Manziel is a freaking EEL. You can't win if you
can't breathe. Chasing him around for 60 minutes is almost impossible. OK, sure, LSU did it, but that's LSU, lol.
We are just awesomemer that other teams. :D Another possible reason bama lost is because Nick Saban does not respect
the no-huddle offense and has said as much. And it is obvious that he did not prepare his team to have to chase a
greased pig. I think it was a coaching let down after a tough victory against LSU. I said that nick saban won the game
for the tide last week and I think he lost the game to the Aggies.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

:gary

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Sorry, Greg, I am willing to do almost anything to get the Gators back in the top 4. ;s

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I would just like to thread jack, that is all

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Since you're jacking...Bet some cigars they don't win the National Championship? ;)

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I don't even think we played badly, except in the first quarter. Not counting that we held them to 9 points and scored 24. We just couldn't come back from our defense rolling over in the first 15 minutes. Honestly the fact that we made it close speaks to the quality of the game that Bama played. After the disaster in the first quarter it was just too little, too late.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Its all relative. Of course you played badly, you lost, lol. But you didn't play TERRIBLY.
But what's relative is you are bama. You could compete with any team in the country.
This week though, it wasn't a penalty here, a turnover there. It was another near-whippin'.

Its like when the Saints beat the Colts in the Super Bowl. There was 'no way" they could win,
but, and here is the parallel for me, Manning goes to the well too often with a pass he has thrown 1200 times
and the Saints player steps in front of it and goes to the house. This late in the season, everyone has seen
everything bama does when it HAS to have 5 yards, and you got burned on it. A&Ms defender steps right in front
of it and basically ends the game. Great film study by the Aggies and smart players defending with their backs to the wall.

As has been stated before, Nicky hates the no huddle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to defend it
when there is this much on the line. I now no longer believe Nick Saban is going to be there forever. In fact
I believe he will be gone this year or the next. He once stated that it is a lot more fun to build a program than
to maintain it. He has built it, now he not only has to maintain it, he is getting criticized at home for nearly losing
to LSU and losing to A&M when he had the team to beat in both cases. There are rumblings on message boards,
and we all know Nicky's personality. He does not like to be criticized by the roundheads. I think the fun is gone
for Nicky at Tuscaloosa. He is going to bolt for a better gig, claim it was just the money, but I think it is too tough
to keep a national champion on the field year in and year out, which is of course what you guys expect now.

Isaiah, I disagree with some of your statements, none FULLY, but a little of all of it. It is NEVER too late for bama
to come back from a bad 1st quarter. You have the top team in the country by most SEC accounts. It is a travesty
that A&M is muddling down in 8th place, but I guess they can't leap LSU who beat em already, and there are all the
teams above bama that haven't stumbled, but UF almost got beat by ULL, cripey, how are they above LSU and A&M?
Well, its easy, LSU lost to UF. But that shows how messed up the BCS system is I guess. After beating bama, no one
can argue that A&M couldn't beat anyone above them. I guess its just the bad luck of the season so far. It has hurt
almost everyone in some way. Cept for those "undefeateds" Still, what's fairer than the current setup?

------

One thing for sure, EVERYONE wants to move on to the next game and forget what has happened over the past
two or three weeks, lol. it ain't over yet for bama.....we'll see how they respond.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I don't think just because a team lost they played badly, sure that first quarter was lousy, but after that our defense had their number and held them to 9 the rest of the game. It put the whole game on the offense which couldn't quite do it, almost, but not quite. We can blame Saban's coaching or Yeldon's fumble or AJ's interception, but fact is our defense didn't adjust fast enough and that's why we lost.

IMO that game is one we can be proud of, sure we lost, but everyone loses sometimes. Everyone acting like Bama is composed of Herculean demi-gods led by Zeus himself and should beat everyone by 100 points is just nonsense. They are a bunch of college kids led by a human coach, just like everyone else.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I respect the way you break it down.
For the record, there are a lot of the demi-god variety here. It keeps me hopping.

I agree that you can't blame the fumble or the pick, but the coaching, to me, is fully on the table.
At least to the degree that coaches mold the talent, and the talent was not able to contend with Manziel.
He could not be contained, he could barely be tackled, and rarely by the first person that had a shot.
That was not the first quarter, that was all game long. That is the defense, though, WE definitely means the
team, so you got it half right, haha. I saw passable quarterback play, and a decent running attack.
In the 4th quarter, QB play was top notch.

But on the defense specifically, I was entertained by Gary Danielson saying that the bama defenders were
trying to tap out and the coaches were telling them they had to stay in the game. I know that was just an
observation, your average viewer isn't going to SEE that. But I thought it was ironic that they were gassed, and
the coaching staff made them continue to play on. I am not sure why, character building or lack of depth.
Just not sure what the hell was going on. I have argued with the staunch demi-god crowd that bama does
not have the depth that LSU has, last year I got drubbed because of it, but LSU handled Manziel and bama could
not get it done for whatever reason. Did bama have competent players ready to come in? I sure don't know.
To me that IS coaching....whether it is strength and conditioning, coaches trying to prove a point or punish
players, who knows. But all of the individual mistakes, as you stated, were not the thing that led to a defeat.
I have to call it coaching. Same reason we lost to bama.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I also do realize that bama was awfully banged up, and these are just big, strong kids
after all. They had all they wanted out of LSU the week before. Hell, like I said, maybe
everyone just wants to move on.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I thought the defense performed exceptionally well after the first quarter, sure they were tired, but they were going 90 miles an hour no huddle out there, anyone would get tired. I think offensively we could have done a better job, and the defense could have showed up earlier, but once they got in the groove they were really beyond reproach.

I also think we passed too much, like Saban bought into the Heisman hype about AJ and felt obligated to use the crap out of him whether it worked or not. Same thing happened with LSU. I'm half convinced that pick was because Saban wanted AJ to have the game winning TD again.

In some cases the score of a game doesn't actual tell the story of which team was better, or even which team played better. Had Bama run in that last TD and won the game everyone would be talking about what an awesome come from behind game, and Bama owned the field for 3 quarters, forgetting the first quarter entirely. As it is the last 3 quarters are forgotten and everyone is acting like A&M walked all over us for 60 minutes and Bama defense was just weak and overrated and couldn't defend itself out of a wet paper sack.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

That was indeed an exciting game! I was pumped after the first quarter, but then had flash backs of all last year when we couldn't finish a game. It was another, "Oh no, here we go again" moment.

I also thought that if Bama continued to pound the ball that you guys could have smashed our defensive line. It's a good thing AJ kept on tossing the ball.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Naw, bro. I don't buy that at all. Plain and simple, Bama's D just isn't as good as it was last year. In fact, not even close. Stats cover up a bunch of shortcomings.

We didn't deserve to win this game. We were outplayed, outschemed, and frankly, outcoached. It happens. And just like last year, we need help from elsewhere. We'll see how the others do with the target on their back and the pressure squeezing their chests.

Carry on...

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

A&M was effective enough for 4 quarters to keep the score so close that a last minute pick
effectively ended the game. You were NOT walked over by any means, but you guys did not
come even close to owning the last 3 quarters. If you had you'd be in the BCSNCG no problem.
But I still need to read Rizzle's post, I bet he is telling you what I am telling you now. Just ignore
me. I love to argue LSU or bama. The asylum is stone dead these past 18 months.
Call it something to do.

Going into the game, I gave A&M's defense NO CREDIT. I said so here. NOW? I am thinking
they were pretty damn stout to hold off bama.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Boy you said a mouthful there. THIS is to me the essential ingredient to the near loss in Baton Rouge
and the loss at home. Kids are not cut out for this kind of pressure, scrutiny, criticism....Bama played
a TOUGH game and suffered a heart-breaking loss. NOW is the time to relax, tiptoe through the 'gimme'
end of the season and watch the pressure attack the teams they NEED to lose. Bama has a lucky charm
in their pocket, look what happened last year. In a way there was NO WAY they should have been
allowed into that game to roast LSU's a55. And in another way, there is no way they should be denied
the berth. That's a lucky charm. We'll see how it works out for em in these two weeks. Will they lose
again in 2012? I highly doubt it.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

You were likely as confused as I was, bama was KILLING us running the ball.
A smart coach who was NOT out-thinking himself, would have finished the
game from that point with NO MORE PASSES, lol. But in the end, LSU lost
BECAUSE he passed and LSU out-thunk their own selves. But I am sure that
bama could have run on every down and obliterated A&M. When your foot is
on the neck of your opponent, you do not let em up.

I UNDERSTAND that in Saban's mind, he had to pass to keep the defense honest.
But when you are bama, you ought to allow the defense to PROVE they can stop
the run before you even CONSIDER honest-keepin' a strategy.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

JEEZ, another of the always close, undecided til the end, Ole Miss versus LSU football games.
Ole Miss played a giant football game, had the LSU secondary looking like high schoolers after what
looks like a very nice bit of film study exploitation. Couple that with another whale of a game standing tough
and tall in the pocket by Zach Mettenberger and you have a slim victory by the Tigers, won appropriately with
a daunting running attack. ALL THE best to the Ole Miss Rebels, I hope they get bowl eligible next week.
They deserve it, but they are going to have a TOUGH time with Miss State up. HELL of a game by Ole Miss.
They had LSU's number big time, we were lucky to win.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Grats to LSU, game was much closer than most would have guessed. Everything else pretty much business as usual in the SEC.

I think the big winner this Saturday was Bama. Could be Bama ND in the championship?

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

It would be a pleasure to see Notre Dame play a real football team for a change. Frankly, I think over 1/2 the teams in the SEC could beat them handily.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Wow, there is gonna be a shake-up in the polls!!! Dame may be #1 and they suck!!

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

It would be a pleasure seeing them crushed in the BCS playoffs.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

"Hopefully", BAMA Will Oblige, Brother!:banger:D:tu

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I Hope So, Brother!:banger:D:tu

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

BAMA / ND would be a game for the ages.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

My opinion on ND exactly.

Let's talk chaos - if ND loses to Southern Cal and Florida beats their 4th top 10 opponent at FSU next week (toughest schedule in the nation y'all), we'd very likely have another all SEC national championship :=:

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Do you feel that pressure?

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Go Bulldogs?

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Hopefully Florida will get back in and oblige, Greg! ;) :r

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

:tf:D

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Derek Dooley is officially gone:

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/201...medium=twitter

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I think this has as much possibility as a Bama/ND game.:tu

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

5 SEC teams in the top 10 (AP poll)! Go SEC!!!

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Living in Athens is going to be interesting the next couple of weeks.

Bama can't overlook Auburn and Georgia.

I hear Miami's nice in early January.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

:tu

Agreed. Despite Auburn's record, that game is NOT a gimme. Bama has been here before, and been upset before by a otherwise poorly playing Auburn!!!!

And Georgia is definitely NOT a gimme!!!!

But I know for a fact that Miami is nice in January!!

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Commentators on the BCS Countdown said that Notre Dame would currently be an underdog to any SEC team in the BCS top ten.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Yep. two great players does not a champion make.
They could beat most of us in a test taking contest, I bet, though.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Good god I've never seen anything as bad as the Iron Bowl was this year. Auburn went undefeated two years ago and now they are the second worst team in the SEC.

Chizik might be out but I think he'll get another year, he is the only coach to win a NC at Auburn for 60 years, I don't think they'll fire him so easily.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Gator chomp the Semi-holes. :D

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

OK, one more....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...t_original.gif

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

I think for the sake of not being like every other bad team in the SEC, dumping coaches, you might be right.
But Auburn seems to have pulled off a one player miracle, not CHIZIK, but that silly 'flying boy' quarterback for hire.
Obviously this is a pundit opinion, there were other factors in that championship year, maybe many, Fairley, etc.
But Chizik is no Bear Bryant. He's not even a fly on angry old Les Miles.

Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012
 

The SEC looked good yesterday, boys! :banger

Florida's victory in Tally-nasty was extra sweet. Top 10 matchup for the first time since 2000 and 9 out of 10 national pundits I saw said the Gators had no chance. #1 defense my @ss, they hadn't played anybody over there in the ACC ("Almost Collegiate Conference") and my Gators smashed 'em in the mouth :tu

And the one and only time I'll ever root for Lane Kiffin he can't come through, dammit.

But seriously guys - imagine if Ohio State wasn't on probation and we were to have an OSU-ND national title? I'd rather sponge-bath my Grandma than watch that :pu