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Shawn hines 12-16-2011 06:46 AM

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Can you get in the stores or something that you have to order?

wayner123 12-16-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1504237)
Can you get in the stores or something that you have to order?

You would probably be better off getting gum arabic. It's what the Cuban rollers use and most likely what other major manuf. use as well. It can be bought at health food stores as well as online.

wayner123 12-16-2011 07:43 AM

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Alright, just ordered the leaves. And now I need to get some gum arabic and I'll be set. This is going to be fun.

BlkDrew 12-16-2011 01:23 PM

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On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane

akumushi 12-16-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1504670)
On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane

Sweet, I'm excited bout the 42's. How long are you going to make them? A 6.5" cuban style lonsdale would be boss!

ApexAZ 12-16-2011 02:49 PM

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I feel 90% better today, so maybe I can smoke and review a Roxy on Sunday.

Can you tell me what's in the test blend?

Homebrewer 12-16-2011 02:51 PM

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This guy has a nice how-to series:

http://www.ehow.com/video_4953129_wrapping-cigar.html

BlkDrew 12-16-2011 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Homebrewer (Post 1504771)

This is also great as well
http://www.tobacconistuniversity.org/campus.asp

under the tobacco college, the second column has wrapping videos, bunching videos ( the different styles) and binding videos.

Quote:

Sweet, I'm excited bout the 42's. How long are you going to make them? A 6.5" cuban style lonsdale would be boss!
I think the mold will only be 5.5 at most. so if i have to trim the foot the longest i could get would be 5-5.25

akumushi 12-17-2011 06:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1505207)
This is also great as well
http://www.tobacconistuniversity.org/campus.asp

under the tobacco college, the second column has wrapping videos, bunching videos ( the different styles) and binding videos.


I think the mold will only be 5.5 at most. so if i have to trim the foot the longest i could get would be 5-5.25

Nice. Coronas are great too! :tu

BlkDrew 12-17-2011 09:54 AM

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I hate FedEx, they lost my mold

Blak Smyth 12-17-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by akumushi (Post 1505317)
Nice. Coronas are great too! :tu

This!

Andrew that is terrible that your mold was lost!

BlkDrew 12-17-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1505492)
This!

Andrew that is terrible that your mold was lost!

Oh I *****e d out FedEx

maninblack 12-17-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1505442)
I hate FedEx, they lost my mold

A$$holes!! :su

BlkDrew 12-17-2011 01:18 PM

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bored, wrapping up some remaining 5x50, which were bound with a CT shade, and dominican blend filler.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1058.jpg

schollianmj 12-18-2011 06:51 AM

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so when are you going to offer sampler packs? maddie here, CT there... as yet Im not stuck on one type, I tend to bounce to everything i can find and would really like to snatch a 5er from ya.

BlkDrew 12-18-2011 07:26 AM

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Are you looking for a one of each kinda thing?

irratebass 12-18-2011 08:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schollianmj (Post 1506025)
so when are you going to offer sampler packs? maddie here, CT there... as yet Im not stuck on one type, I tend to bounce to everything i can find and would really like to snatch a 5er from ya.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1506047)
Are you looking for a one of each kinda thing?

That's exactly what I am hoping for too. When I get the cash this is my order

schollianmj 12-18-2011 08:46 AM

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yes. one of what ever you have to offer. set up a few taster pack 5ers and Im sure they would be bought. I can pay pal you the money now. :)

BlkDrew 12-18-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by schollianmj (Post 1506072)
yes. one of what ever you have to offer. set up a few taster pack 5ers and Im sure they would be bought. I can pay pal you the money now. :)

the only ones i have in stock now are

CT premium shade with dominican filler (Limited Quantity)
Havana Prime with dominican filler (Limited Quantity)
Maduro With Dominican filler

The problem is, it is difficult to carry a large variety of wrappers. they take a lot more care in storage than the fillers and only having one mold at the time I can only do 10 cigars per batch.

I am going to start wrapping them in newspaper after being pressed to help increase production.

schollianmj 12-18-2011 09:14 AM

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ok, well with what you got, how about 2 maddies, 2 CT, and a Havana Prime? :) Basically, I am wanting and willing to help support you and your rolling, and wanting to try these.... :) But if not, what can you do for a 5er now, and how much would they cost shipped to 22655?

BlkDrew 12-18-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by schollianmj (Post 1506089)
ok, well with what you got, how about 2 maddies, 2 CT, and a Havana Prime? :) Basically, I am wanting and willing to help support you and your rolling, and wanting to try these.... :) But if not, what can you do for a 5er now, and how much would they cost shipped to 22655?

I have a current list going. my last final exam is on monday, after that i will able to start increasing inventory. When i started rolling i was juggling a lot, I had work which was full time nights, school every day until noon and i had to fit sleep in there at some point.

now that school is done, i will have a solid 4-5 hours a day i can commit to rolling. I will start selling again once i increase inventory and let them rest a week or so.

akumushi 12-18-2011 10:18 AM

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Nice, did that last 5/50 pick have a pigtailed cap? :tu

BlkDrew 12-18-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by akumushi (Post 1506141)
Nice, did that last 5/50 pick have a pigtailed cap? :tu

When i apply the wrapper i have not perfected the continuous flag, so i pigtail them all, and trim it close to the head and apply a faux triple cap, i find it it much easier this way until i can perfect a continuous cap. ;s no pigtails yet.

Shawn hines 12-18-2011 01:37 PM

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Drew, this thread has push me to the point of trying too roll myself....I hope that you won't mind if there is another picture thread on here at some point....

I was in Kuwait today when the last convoy crossed out of Iraq, your cigars were fired up.... Thank you for them, it means a lot to us. I have talked to a few of the guys about your rolling and we are wanting to try it out for sure now that me might have some us time. I am heading back south to Bahrain so things are looking up for Christmas.

BlkDrew 12-18-2011 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn hines (Post 1506225)
Drew, this thread has push me to the point of trying too roll myself....I hope that you won't mind if there is another picture thread on here at some point....

I was in Kuwait today when the last convoy crossed out of Iraq, your cigars were fired up.... Thank you for them, it means a lot to us. I have talked to a few of the guys about your rolling and we are wanting to try it out for sure now that me might have some us time. I am heading back south to Bahrain so things are looking up for Christmas.

I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

Maybe the forum creator can give us our own section... "Rolling your own"

I'm glad everyone is safe. Heard it on the news. I hope you guys have a great Christmas over there.

Shawn hines 12-18-2011 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1506237)
I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

Maybe the forum creator can give us our own section... "Rolling your own"

I'm glad everyone is safe. Heard it on the news. I hope you guys have a great Christmas over there.

Alright so I will post as it goes...BTW congrats on having this thread take off like this I am number 376... And more to come I am sure

Everybody today was like a bunch of kids, the base I have been at is FULLED up with people that are taking HOT showers and getting good food in their bellies:tu

hdryder 12-18-2011 04:28 PM

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I been following this thread for a couple weeks now & i gotta tell ya that you roll a damn nice looking smoke and it looks like you learned the process in a very short time. Keep up the great pictures bro cause I love looking @ them.

Cheers

Richard

Marlon K 12-18-2011 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1504670)
On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane





WOW!!!!!! I am on the list Thanks and you pick 5 - 50 for me

CoreyD 12-19-2011 12:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1506174)
When i apply the wrapper i have not perfected the continuous flag, so i pigtail them all, and trim it close to the head and apply a faux triple cap, i find it it much easier this way until i can perfect a continuous cap. ;s no pigtails yet.

Hehe its funny you say this ,however I do have piggies....
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1506237)
I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

I got pictures here and there but I'm shy and lately just reading others posts on the board absorbing and still trying experiments, however theres some guys at work loving the guinea pig role and right now reviews are 70/30 on liking them with many changes made throughout the project series. Resources keeps the hobby to a small hobby window,so like you having few molds and resources of time and leaves coming in keeps it to just a fun way to relax. With me being a perfectionist I will tell you its hard to make cigars for more than just your palet and eye. Some mistakes launched my rustic series idea and I'm just happy to be doing what I originally set off in this hobby to do. Now to find different farms, ages, etc crops.
I do say this Andy, keep up the great work. and I'll post pics of my press I made after that Pm awhile back telling you of my idea, I broadened it and it works great.

kingcobradude 12-19-2011 12:52 AM

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could you put me on the list to buy a pack from ya?

CoreyD 12-19-2011 07:12 AM

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As promised Andrew.
My modified invention
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/013-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/012-1.jpg
and some eye candy for Mac. My first Madurro roll with some double ligero.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/009-1.jpg
Now heres where some of my maddies are now.They look darker in person.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/017-1.jpg

Blak Smyth 12-19-2011 07:14 AM

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NIce work Corey, keep us updated on your progress brother!
Thanks for sharing!

chaase321 12-19-2011 07:18 AM

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Looks like a good start Corey!

CoreyD 12-19-2011 07:21 AM

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Example of my Piggies off my recovery series
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/019-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2006/018-1.jpg

kelmac07 12-19-2011 07:42 AM

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How do they taste Corey?

Blak Smyth 12-19-2011 07:43 AM

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Loving the pigtails brother!

CoreyD 12-19-2011 07:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1506885)
How do they taste Corey?

well draw was an issue at first then to much kick now I seem to have the full with full medium with medium and mild with mild all with '98 Nic fillers and '99 ecudorian sumatra binder all with different wrappers from havana to conneticut to different madduros. So to ask me how they taste they all have a different profile depending on how much,what of and size etc. But I do like them theres something to each one I like.
By know means is this part of the hobby cheaper than buying a box of good cigars the way the sales have been going on stuff lately but I originally got into the cigar hobby to do this part of it for my personal enjoyment. I am at the point where I grab these instead of the whats left in my mad jump last november-june purchases.

My next batches are some nic/dom mixes all with the sumatra binder. Its going to be my go to Binder. I like the extra zing. My draws are good , need to be more consistant on my old figudor sizes . The mold is vintage and I want to do them justice. The other Mold I have of an undisclosed ring guage is loaned by the local B &M owner whom probably wants it back soon hehe and that will cut out my regular formed rolls I have been using to make skinnies to churches with.
As far as the Madurros go, up close in picture they look wrinkly but up close in person the 2 kind of madurros look great with some minor changes needed on cosmetics but I kind of like the rustic look. The over powered ones I have some put aside to see how they marinate however I have 2 boxes of mixed from day 1 to now unmarked so its going to be a mystery grab each time except knowing what the wrapper is.
But like I said some tweaks all different with some similarities all a learning curve that I can't really calculate until they marinate into eachother with some rest time even though they are aged they haven't melted into eachother as a stick. As Todd says they're green give them 6 months. Only I need to keep my hands outa the boxes and the gifting lowered.
Sorry this is all drained on but I am very tired got home 1.5 hrs ago from some long hours at work. I worked 37 hours since fri night.

wayner123 12-19-2011 08:15 AM

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Corey,

Where are you getting the sumatra binder tobacco from?

BlkDrew 12-19-2011 10:11 AM

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Great job on the progress Corey. They are really starting to look better as seen with the pigtail capped ones. I have found blending to be easy with the dominican fillers, with the Nicaraguan fillers you have to be really precise, but once you get it, it is a great stick.

what do the molds look like without anything in them? just looking to see what you're working with.

maninblack 12-19-2011 11:24 AM

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Wow. Are you on caffeine 24/7?:r
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyD (Post 1506900)
well draw was an issue at first then to much kick now I seem to have the full with full medium with medium and mild with mild all with '98 Nic fillers and '99 ecudorian sumatra binder all with different wrappers from havana to conneticut to different madduros. So to ask me how they taste they all have a different profile depending on how much,what of and size etc. But I do like them theres something to each one I like.
By know means is this part of the hobby cheaper than buying a box of good cigars the way the sales have been going on stuff lately but I originally got into the cigar hobby to do this part of it for my personal enjoyment. I am at the point where I grab these instead of the whats left in my mad jump last november-june purchases.

My next batches are some nic/dom mixes all with the sumatra binder. Its going to be my go to Binder. I like the extra zing. My draws are good , need to be more consistant on my old figudor sizes . The mold is vintage and I want to do them justice. The other Mold I have of an undisclosed ring guage is loaned by the local B &M owner whom probably wants it back soon hehe and that will cut out my regular formed rolls I have been using to make skinnies to churches with.
As far as the Madurros go, up close in picture they look wrinkly but up close in person the 2 kind of madurros look great with some minor changes needed on cosmetics but I kind of like the rustic look. The over powered ones I have some put aside to see how they marinate however I have 2 boxes of mixed from day 1 to now unmarked so its going to be a mystery grab each time except knowing what the wrapper is.
But like I said some tweaks all different with some similarities all a learning curve that I can't really calculate until they marinate into eachother with some rest time even though they are aged they haven't melted into eachother as a stick. As Todd says they're green give them 6 months. Only I need to keep my hands outa the boxes and the gifting lowered.
Sorry this is all drained on but I am very tired got home 1.5 hrs ago from some long hours at work. I worked 37 hours since fri night.


irratebass 12-19-2011 01:24 PM

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Great start Corey, keep us updated on your progress.....I do dig the pigtails

BlkDrew 12-19-2011 02:55 PM

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Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

irratebass 12-19-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1507418)
Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

Very fair :su:su:su:su:su

maninblack 12-19-2011 03:29 PM

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That's BS Andrew!! Sorry to hear.

chaase321 12-19-2011 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1507418)
Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

I say you give us the address! We'll :sl:gary:su We don't want you waiting around on molds, we need Drew up and rolling more sticks!! :tu

BlkDrew 12-19-2011 03:40 PM

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FedEx states that it may not even have been picked up. Even though it shows a pickup scan when you track it. FedEx doesn't know where it is. Every time I call them they just say there were no updates, bull get off your ass and look for the package.

I have asked the company to send me a replacement mold in the meantime and they basically said no. The 42x5 is the second to last one in inventory. So that is where it stands

schollianmj 12-19-2011 03:45 PM

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How did you pay for said mold... if it was with a credit card, call teh card company and file a complaint.

BlkDrew 12-19-2011 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schollianmj (Post 1507485)
How did you pay for said mold... if it was with a credit card, call teh card company and file a complaint.

Postal money order. My main issue is with FedEx right now, if the company doesn't make it right, then there will be a problem there.

Crownedone 12-19-2011 05:29 PM

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Corey, I love the rough look to the smokes. Keep up the great work.

ApexAZ 12-19-2011 08:56 PM

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Andrew,

I smoked both sticks today. Loved them both! Had some draw issues on the nic, but the blend was nothing short of amazing. I posted the review in the NC review forum.

The test blend was not as complex, but also very good and had no burn or draw problems. Thanks for the trade! I'm so glad I got to try them. I don't know if I have the time or patience to roll any myself, so please do continue in your endeavor so that I can buy some more in the future!

Again: Awsome!


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