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MedicCook 11-02-2009 10:19 PM

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This postseason really shows how amazing Mo is as a closer. And he is doing it at 39 years old.

kelmac07 11-03-2009 04:44 AM

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Pedrp "Who's Your Daddy" gets the call Wednesday.

BigAsh 11-03-2009 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 628863)
This postseason really shows how amazing Mo is as a closer. And he is doing it at 39 years old.

39?...coulda swore I saw him high fiving the Mick back in the day....:r....seems like he's been there forever....

feznuk 11-03-2009 09:22 AM

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Not too worried about Pedro getting the call for game 6. He pitched well in game 2, I just think Charlie let him go too far. I'd like to see him get through 5 or 6 without too much damage. The pen is real shaky, but they have to step up. Even if they have to pitch one guy per inning.

I don't trust Madson without a big lead. He just doesn't seem to have the zip on his ball. The Yankees hit him hard last night. I think Teixeira got a little anxious and helped Madson out.

Hopefully Utley stays hot and Werth picks up with Pettitte where he left off in game 3.

VirtualSmitty 11-03-2009 09:37 AM

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I feel pretty good about this next game. Yanks get the DH back so Matsuis bat is back in the whole game and without Burnett pitching we've got Posada in the whole game too. Pedro doesn't go deep into games and the way the Phillies pen has been that could hurt late in the game. If we can get a solid six or seven innings out of Andy and bridge the gap to Mo it's over.

yourchoice 11-03-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 629414)
If we can get a solid six or seven innings out of Andy and bridge the gap to Mo it's over.

That's the key right there...if Pettite can go six or seven solid innings. I'll say it again...it will be interesting to see how he is on 3-days.

Did you see the stat FOX put up on the history of pitchers on 3-days rest who pitched against pitchers on regular rest in the playoffs? Something like 12-37 or thereabout. That helps give the Phillies hope.

VirtualSmitty 11-03-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 629457)
That's the key right there...if Pettite can go six or seven solid innings. I'll say it again...it will be interesting to see how he is on 3-days.

Did you see the stat FOX put up on the history of pitchers on 3-days rest who pitched against pitchers on regular rest in the playoffs? Something like 12-37 or thereabout. That helps give the Phillies hope.

I did see that. But Andy Pettitte is 3-1 with a 2.88 era in the post season when pitching on short rest. And if he does as bad as Burnett did they still have Chad Gaudin in the pen for long relief.

Blueface 11-03-2009 10:09 AM

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Here is an interesting article on Andy on short rest.

http://www.newsday.com/columnists/wa...rest-1.1564479

MedicCook 11-03-2009 11:20 AM

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Let's Go Yankees.

yourchoice 11-03-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 629470)
Here is an interesting article on Andy on short rest.

http://www.newsday.com/columnists/wa...rest-1.1564479

Thanks for the link Carlos...interesting.
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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 629573)
Let's Go Yankees.

:r I'm onto your thinking. :r

Blueface 11-03-2009 12:36 PM

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Between two fantasy football leagues and the World Series, I am sure glad I can put my heart back down my throat for one night.
May I rest in peace and if not, may my .25 Xanax address that.:D

shilala 11-03-2009 12:48 PM

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I just saw this headline...
"Title hopes not so bright for Yanks after Game 5."
I thought, "They're going home to win one game out of two. It'll take nothing short of an act of God for them not to win. Did this guy hit his head on something?"
The title was so stupid I didn't read the article.
That said, Go Phillies!!!
(I wanna watch 7 games) :)

BigAsh 11-03-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 629671)
Between two fantasy football leagues and the World Series, I am sure glad I can put my heart back down my throat for one night.
May I rest in peace and if not, may my .25 Xanax address that.:D

:r:r

floydpink 11-03-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 629680)
I just saw this headline...
"Title hopes not so bright for Yanks after Game 5."
I thought, "They're going home to win one game out of two. It'll take nothing short of an act of God for them not to win. Did this guy hit his head on something?"
The title was so stupid I didn't read the article.
That said, Go Phillies!!!
(I wanna watch 7 games) :)

I just intercepted this message;
"Dear Phillies, get that trophy all nice and polished and head on down the Jersey Turnpike and don't stop until you get to the Bronx, we're gonna bury you real soon."

floydpink 11-03-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 629729)
I just intercepted this message;
"Dear Phillies, get that trophy all nice and polished and head on down the Jersey Turnpike and don't stop until you get to the Bronx, we're gonna bury you real soon."

I belive it was signed by Joe Girardi

ade06 11-03-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 629729)
I just intercepted this message;
"Dear Phillies, get that trophy all nice and polished and head on down the Jersey Turnpike and don't stop until you get to the Bronx, we're gonna bury you real soon."

I think that it would be hard for the Phillies to "head on down" the Jersey Turnpike and make it to the Bronx, considering NY is north of Philly. :D

floydpink 11-03-2009 01:50 PM

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Whatever direction it is to the Bronx doesn't matter, the dagger is ready to go right in the Phillies' heart

yourchoice 11-03-2009 10:01 PM

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A serious question for the Yankee fans...

Do you think Girardi should have pitched Gaudin when up either 2-1 or 3-1? 660 The Fan fades in and out in my car down here, but from what I can tell, some think he should have pitched him to put his best arms on regular rest. Personally, at 2-1, I don't think he should have, but once at 3-1 I do. Of course I don't know much about Gaudin other than, for the playoff roster, he is apparently their 4th starter.

VirtualSmitty 11-03-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 630529)
A serious question for the Yankee fans...

Do you think Girardi should have pitched Gaudin when up either 2-1 or 3-1? 660 The Fan fades in and out in my car down here, but from what I can tell, some think he should have pitched him to put his best arms on regular rest. Personally, at 2-1, I don't think he should have, but once at 3-1 I do. Of course I don't know much about Gaudin other than, for the playoff roster, he is apparently their 4th starter.

Hard to say. I'm surprised they haven't used him other than once all playoffs, he was good for us after we got him from the Padres. I was watching Girardi's press conference and he said the reason for not using Gaudin was because he had only pitched once in the last 27 games so he may be rusty. I don't think he could have worse then Burnett did yesterday though, so yea I guess I think they should have used him.

Blueface 11-04-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 630549)
Hard to say. I'm surprised they haven't used him other than once all playoffs, he was good for us after we got him from the Padres. I was watching Girardi's press conference and he said the reason for not using Gaudin was because he had only pitched once in the last 27 games so he may be rusty. I don't think he could have worse then Burnett did yesterday though, so yea I guess I think they should have used him.

I too would have used him.

floydpink 11-04-2009 11:38 AM

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I wish my boss was reluctant to make me work on 3 days rest....:D

Should be a great game, and I am still sticking by my Yankees in 6 prediction.

How fitting it would be with Petit getting the win and Pedro the loss.

I was in Disney yesterday and caught all kinds of flack about my Yankees shirt. It must be vacation in PA because the place was a sea of Phillies jerseys.

shilala 11-04-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 631211)
I wish my boss was reluctant to make me work on 3 days rest....:D

Should be a great game, and I am still sticking by my Yankees in 6 prediction.

How fitting it would be with Petit getting the win and Pedro the loss.

I was in Disney yesterday and caught all kinds of flack about my Yankees shirt. It must be vacation in PA because the place was a sea of Phillies jerseys.

I think it's "jump aboard the Phillies bandwagon just because we wanna see the Yanks lose" fever.
You can pretty much substitute any NL team for the "Phillies" in that sentence for any given year. :D
Andy Petite kicks ass. I have no idea how the Phils are gonna win tonight, and I wouldn't bet on them, but I can't wait to watch it play out.
Win or lose, I'd like to see Chase Utley drop at least two more in the cheap seats. :tu

Starscream 11-04-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 631244)
I think it's "jump aboard the Phillies bandwagon just because we wanna see the Yanks lose" fever.
You can pretty much substitute any NL team for the "Phillies" in that sentence for any given year. :D

That's why I'm pullin' for the Phillies.:banger Not just b/c it's the Yankees (although that has some to do with it), but because I'm a National League fan. It sucks to see them lose the All-Star game year after year, so it's good to see them win a World Series every now and then.

feznuk 11-04-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 631244)
Win or lose, I'd like to see Chase Utley drop at least two more in the cheap seats. :tu

:tpd: But I'd be surprised if they try to pitch to him tonight. I think they are going to come inside hard. Pettitte better be careful though...With his quick swing Utley can turn on the inside ball so there is going to be little room for error. I wouldn't doubt it if he gets plugged at least once tonight.

I'm expecting Pettitte to pitch around Utley and take his chances with Howard since his performance has been pathetic so far. I think that's the key to the game right there....If Howard can deliver then the Phils have a realistic chance at winning tonight.

Werth hit Pettitte hard in game 3 so hopefully he will do the same tonight.

It's going to take a lot of runs to win this game and both sides have demonstrated they can do that in a hurry.

I would love to see this go to a game 7 if only to see how Charlie plans to get through 9 innings of pitching tomorrow.

Go Phils!:tu

Starscream 11-04-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by feznuk (Post 631284)
I would love to see this go to a game 7 if only to see how Charlie plans to get through 9 innings of pitching tomorrow.

:tpd:
No matter who wins, I want to see a seven game series. There won't be anymore baseball on for a while, so we better get all we can get while it lasts.

BigAsh 11-04-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 631244)
I think it's "jump aboard the Phillies bandwagon just because we wanna see the Yanks lose" fever.
You can pretty much substitute any NL team for the "Phillies" in that sentence for any given year. :D
Andy Petite kicks ass. I have no idea how the Phils are gonna win tonight, and I wouldn't bet on them, but I can't wait to watch it play out.
Win or lose, I'd like to see Chase Utley drop at least two more in the cheap seats. :tu

.....Milwaukee? :r would be nice for a new "Mr. October" to arrive

The Poet 11-04-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 631360)
.....Milwaukee? :r would be nice for a new "Mr. October" to arrive

It's November on my calendar, my friend.

As for the Gaudin question above, I don't see it as a big deal. I feel more comfortable with Andy tonight on short rest than AJ on full rest. Yet if I was Girardi I'd have both Gaudin and Acevas warming up from pretty much the get-go. This will not bother Andy, since he does not let things get into his head.

Bruins Fan 11-04-2009 02:08 PM

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Should be a good one, this could be Pedro's last game? He may not have the 96 mph fast ball, but he knows how to pitch,and will go down in baseball history as one of the greatest pitchers of all time.:D

floydpink 11-04-2009 03:33 PM

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floydpink 11-04-2009 03:36 PM

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Ok, so if it goes 7, is it gonna be Cliff Lee vs CC Sabathia? Or will the Phillies go with Cole Hamels?

yourchoice 11-04-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 631546)
Ok, so if it goes 7,...

I like how you're thinking. :D

yourchoice 11-04-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 631211)
I was in Disney yesterday and caught all kinds of flack about my Yankees shirt. It must be vacation in PA because the place was a sea of Phillies jerseys.

Actually they were probably (South) NJ people...this week public school kids in NJ have off W-F for Teacher's In-service. For that reason I'm surprised you didn't see just as many Yankees' jerseys, hats, etc.

My friend took his family there last year this time during the school break and he said it was Southern South Jersey with all of the Phillies garb. :r

yourchoice 11-04-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 631546)
Ok, so if it goes 7, is it gonna be Cliff Lee vs CC Sabathia? Or will the Phillies go with Cole Hamels?

I don't know what Charlie would do. I would start either Hamels on a very very short leash, with the first two out of the pen (if he struggles, even just a little bit) being Happ and Blanton. I would even pull him after 4 if he allowed no runs but struggled with his command or was being hit hard. Late inning set-up/situational relief being Park, Durbin, Eyre and Madson and use Lee as the closer. No Lidge at all. On two days rest I wouldn't trust Lee's stuff for more than 35-40 pitches, but even one pitch could be too many. I still would use him as the closer (like the D-Backs did with Johnson). If they used Madson or Park as the closer I would be okay with that too. But that's me....shrug.

And there's a lot of talk about how many saves Madson blew this year. The thing is that stat is kind of skewed because if you lose a lead in the 7th, 8th, or 9th inning you are charged with a blown save. Situationally, losing a lead in the 8th is a lot different than in the 9th, especially when you're typically starting the inning in the 9th nine times out of 10. Admittedly, he still wasn't very good as a closer, but that stat they keep throwing around is misleading, IMO.

The Poet 11-04-2009 04:04 PM

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I don't expect it to be an issue, Joel - AARPedro ends it tonight. :ss

yourchoice 11-04-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 631584)
I don't expect it to be an issue, Joel - AARPedro ends it tonight. :ss

AARPedro....that's funny! :r

feznuk 11-04-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 631584)
AARPedro ends it tonight. :ss

Now that there is funny.:r

Hopefully dead wrong, but funny!

Starscream 11-04-2009 06:13 PM

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After the family issues Pedro's had lately, I hope he pulls a W tonight. He deserves it.

Scottw 11-04-2009 06:34 PM

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MATSUI Motherf***er!!!!

BlackDog 11-04-2009 06:37 PM

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I'm pulling for Philly, but Pedro just looks flat. He needs a shot of vitamin B-12.
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bvilchez 11-04-2009 07:09 PM

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I don't see Pedro coming back out. He's done for the night.

BlackDog 11-04-2009 07:15 PM

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Someone buy Pedro a one-way ticket to the Dominican.
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bvilchez 11-04-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 631855)
Someone buy Pedro a one-way ticket to the Dominican.
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It's Dominican Republic......and I wouldn't count him out for another few seasons.

VirtualSmitty 11-04-2009 08:00 PM

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Matsui is Godzilla tonight. Nice to have that DH back.

floydpink 11-04-2009 08:07 PM

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Matsui MVP.

Get the champagne ready......:tu

bvilchez 11-04-2009 08:10 PM

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Don't jinx it!!!!!!

bvilchez 11-04-2009 08:11 PM

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Told ya!!!!!

MedicCook 11-04-2009 08:29 PM

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Let's go Yankees!!

floydpink 11-04-2009 08:39 PM

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3 more outs, then the buzzsaw comes in. :su

Smoking a Monte out on the patio and a red snake slithered across, about a foot from me. Hope it wasn't an omen....

BlackDog 11-04-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bvilchez (Post 631857)
It's Dominican Republic......

Not clear what your point is??

Starscream 11-04-2009 08:45 PM

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It looks like the fat lady's tuning up...:hn


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