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Zanaspus 11-30-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iRiSh (Post 662602)
ive just recieved a box of chairman cigars but i dont have a cutter to cut them as they have a ring gague of 60.

does anyone have any ideas on how to cut them succesfully with out ruining them?

having 25 of them i would be as well to buy a cutter, ive searched ebay over here and most of them are for 22mm max cigars. any links for cheapish ones

thanking you in advance

What kind of cutter do you have? Even cutters made for smaller RG sticks can be used to cut fatter sticks. Wedge the end in there and "shave" what littel cap you can. Alternatively, a punch works on any large RG.

SilverFox 11-30-2009 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iRiSh (Post 662602)
ive just recieved a box of chairman cigars but i dont have a cutter to cut them as they have a ring gague of 60.

does anyone have any ideas on how to cut them succesfully with out ruining them?

having 25 of them i would be as well to buy a cutter, ive searched ebay over here and most of them are for 22mm max cigars. any links for cheapish ones

thanking you in advance

You could also just use a knife.

CUTTING CIGARS WITH A KNIFE

Whynot 11-30-2009 09:41 PM

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I bought a cheap 3 finger case that came with a swiss army knife that had some cigar scissors on them. I think the biggest I have cut was a 56, but they look like they could handle much larger. Check out some scissors.

MrOneEyedBoh 12-01-2009 10:52 AM

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I started a thread I had some questions in but I'll post it here.

the color of the smoke. I've seen smoke yellow-ish, smoke with a blue tint, and gray smoke. what does the color of the smoke indicate? does that have a relation to the strength or taste/flavors you'll experience?

icehog3 12-01-2009 11:03 AM

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I have never noticed any correlation between the color of the smoke in relation to the flavor or strength of a cigar.

MrOneEyedBoh 12-01-2009 11:29 AM

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What does the smoke color indicate? the age of the tobacco or maybe quality?

icehog3 12-01-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 663866)
What does the smoke color indicate? the age of the tobacco or maybe quality?

My opinion?

Absolutely nothing.

T.G 12-01-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 663866)
What does the smoke color indicate? the age of the tobacco or maybe quality?

Same thing as any other burning material, it's combustion qualities that's all.

MrOneEyedBoh 12-01-2009 11:39 AM

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oh. Alright. Thanks

icehog3 12-01-2009 11:41 AM

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Oh. You're welcome.

T.G 12-01-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 663898)
Oh. You're welcome.

oh. LOL.

mosesbotbol 12-01-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 663790)
I've seen smoke yellow-ish, smoke with a blue tint, and gray smoke. what does the color of the smoke indicate? does that have a relation to the strength or taste/flavors you'll experience?

Yellow smoke I would stay away from.

bobarian 12-01-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 663913)
Yellow smoke I would stay away from.

Yellow snow I can understand.;s But what does yellow smoke indicate?

iRiSh 12-01-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 662650)
Take one of the cigars with you to a local shop and check the cutters. Most likely the RG of the cap is slightly less than 60rg. You can also use a very sharp knife or a razor blade(be careful) to cut your cigars. Or there is always caveman style, just bite off the cap! :2

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Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 662651)
How about using a punch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanaspus (Post 662652)
What kind of cutter do you have? Even cutters made for smaller RG sticks can be used to cut fatter sticks. Wedge the end in there and "shave" what littel cap you can. Alternatively, a punch works on any large RG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 662756)
You could also just use a knife.

CUTTING CIGARS WITH A KNIFE


thanks for the advice, im looking at getting a large scissors like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fashion-Round-...item3ca4ff7706

mosesbotbol 12-01-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 663926)
Yellow snow I can understand.;s But what does yellow smoke indicate?

Bolivian flake is mixed in.


In all seriousness, I do not know what yellow smoke in a cigar would mean, but I have never ever seen yellowish smoke coming from a cigar. Most likely it would be a mineral or chemical whithin the cigar that burns yellow.

bobarian 12-01-2009 01:14 PM

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That makes sense. I have only seen gray or bluish gray smoke from my cigars.

T.G 12-01-2009 01:44 PM

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Lighting tends to play a big factor in what color the smoke appears.

At dawn and dusk, a light gray or white smoke will often appear yellowish or slightly amber in color.

Chris. 12-01-2009 02:01 PM

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I've seen white, gray, brown, slightly blue. I think it depends on the intensity of your puffs and how close together they are. And if the cigar is maduro or not. ;)

Snake Hips 12-01-2009 08:43 PM

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The only thing I've ever noticed was where it was coming from. The smoke from my mouth and what's coming from the head is a different color than the smoke emanating from the foot. Just different things in the smoke I guess.

MrOneEyedBoh 12-02-2009 10:20 PM

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The light thing makes sense.

Another one is, I thought at some point on here I seen a "Flavor Wheel" or something similar for cigar flavors. Does anyone know where I can get that at?

Also, on my way home from work I smoke. And I was wondering, how does one get these flavors out of a cigar? What makes tobacco taste like flowers ect? Like what mechanics in the tobacco give it that flavor? Tobacco does not taste like flowers, ya know?

theonlybear4CORT 12-02-2009 11:12 PM

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http://www.milfordtobaccoshop.com/images/cigarwheel.gif

MrOneEyedBoh 12-02-2009 11:31 PM

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/\ I think that is it. Thanks.

Kreth 12-03-2009 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 666342)
Also, on my way home from work I smoke. And I was wondering, how does one get these flavors out of a cigar? What makes tobacco taste like flowers ect? Like what mechanics in the tobacco give it that flavor? Tobacco does not taste like flowers, ya know?

There's a few variables: type of tobacco, the curing/fermenting process, and where it was grown (mineral content of the soil can affect the flavor).
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dragon0708 12-06-2009 03:27 PM

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Why do some newly purchased cigars seem to be a little wet and difficult to smoke? What is the easiest way to dry them out? Put them on the corner for a few days or just leave them in the humi for several weeks before smoking?

AD720 12-06-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon0708 (Post 670484)
Why do some newly purchased cigars seem to be a little wet and difficult to smoke? What is the easiest way to dry them out? Put them on the corner for a few days or just leave them in the humi for several weeks before smoking?

A lot of vendors will ship wet in, what I guess, is an effort to make sure they don't dry out in transit.

IMHO the best thing to do is to leave them in your humi and let them slowly acclimate as going from dry to wet or wet to dry really rapidly can cause cracked wrappers and other burn problems.

Try draw testing your smokes before lighting them. If you pull it out, clip it and it doesn't draw put it back in the humi or dry box for a day or two.

dragon0708 12-07-2009 01:33 PM

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I never thought about putting the cigar back into the humi if the draw is still tight. I will try that. Thanks for the advise. :D

muhren 12-10-2009 12:47 PM

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So, I seem to have amassed a great deal of cigars and can't smoke them as often as I like withe the cold weather. Here is the question!

Best way to store and separate them so the flavors mingle 'correctly'?

i.e. by wrapper type, by brand, by wrapper country, Puros together? etc.

I don't want an anejo picking up some CI legend flavor because its sitting next to it.

Let me know please!

Thanks!

M

Snake Hips 12-10-2009 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muhren (Post 675598)
So, I seem to have amassed a great deal of cigars and can't smoke them as often as I like withe the cold weather. Here is the question!

Best way to store and separate them so the flavors mingle 'correctly'?

i.e. by wrapper type, by brand, by wrapper country, Puros together? etc.

I don't want an anejo picking up some CI legend flavor because its sitting next to it.

Let me know please!

Thanks!

M

I wouldn't worry about it. Flavor "mingling" is either entirely mythical or requires decades to happen. Cigars won't adopt the attributes of cigars in close proximity to them; I have trouble believing that flavor can be carried through air before the stuff is even burned, or transferred by contact.

NCRadioMan 12-10-2009 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muhren (Post 675598)
So, I seem to have amassed a great deal of cigars and can't smoke them as often as I like withe the cold weather. Here is the question!

Best way to store and separate them so the flavors mingle 'correctly'?

i.e. by wrapper type, by brand, by wrapper country, Puros together? etc.

I don't want an anejo picking up some CI legend flavor because its sitting next to it.

Let me know please!

Thanks!

M

May I ask where you got this false info?

dragon0708 12-10-2009 06:39 PM

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How about an Acid Kuba Kuba or Cold Fusion Ice Tea with the rest of your smokes in a humi? I have all my Acid cigars in a separate humi from all others.

CigarNut 12-10-2009 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon0708 (Post 675947)
How about an Acid Kuba Kuba or Cold Fusion Ice Tea with the rest of your smokes in a humi? I have all my Acid cigars in a separate humi from all others.

Infused cigars should be stored away from "regular" cigars.

muhren 12-10-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 675718)
May I ask where you got this false info?

The false info being what?

icehog3 12-10-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by muhren (Post 676081)
The false info being what?

That cigar flavors "mingle", with the exception (the time it is true) being infused cigars.

muhren 12-10-2009 08:50 PM

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Excuse my simpleton reference here...I have been smoking for years (LOW quantity) and have since started to really taste the flavors profiles in the cigars. I went to the library and borrowed 'A complete Idiot's Guide to Cigars' An idiot has gotta start somewhere! :tu

As it turns out, I should have read ahead! I was stuck in concept from Page 160:
"The cigars in the marrying room are packed closely together so that they have a chance to share flavors and mellow with hundreds of nearby stogies!"

As it turns out...this is during the aging process prior to being packaged. It is part of the 'marrying time' The author suggests that by the time it gets to me, the aging and flavors have already been completed.

I'm just digging into the book...it makes me feel good to own some quality cigars. I suggest picking up a copy! BUT, read it completely first before asking questions. :ss

M

icehog3 12-10-2009 08:52 PM

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No worries, Mike, lots of people learn from the questions posed here, not just the person asking, so you might have done others a service. :)

DavenportESQ 12-10-2009 09:18 PM

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Is it True, if you don't use it you loose it?

icehog3 12-10-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 676169)
Is it True, if you don't use it you loose it?

Actually if you don't use it, you lose it. Loose is more like the way that mumu fits you. ;)

muhren 12-11-2009 04:45 PM

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I have just finished 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to Cigars' AND

I'm looking for another good resource book. I signed up for the Pearlman '09 version of another thread, but can any vets recommend another good read with some specifics on location and/or geography and the flavors they can impart?

Thanks!

M

T.G 12-11-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by muhren (Post 677103)
I have just finished 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to Cigars' AND

I'm looking for another good resource book. I signed up for the Pearlman '09 version of another thread, but can any vets recommend another good read with some specifics on location and/or geography and the flavors they can impart?

Thanks!

M

Perelman's Cigar Cyclopedia is more of a statistical referance than anything else. While it does have some other information in it, it's main purpose is to simply list current production cigars, their sizes, the country of manufacture, the countries of tobacco origin for the cigar and some manufacturing notes on the cigar. It's not really much of a flavor guide.

Rather than another book, is to take Perelman's and look up the cigars you are smoking and see what the tobacco origins are for those cigars. Eventually, you'll start tasting some similarities and patterns. But, keep in mind, that there are many variables in tobacco growing and simply changing something as mundane as afternoon shadows on the tobacco plant can make two pieces of tobacco grown only a few miles apart taste radically different.

NCRadioMan 12-11-2009 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muhren (Post 677103)
I have just finished 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to Cigars' AND

I'm looking for another good resource book. I signed up for the Pearlman '09 version of another thread, but can any vets recommend another good read with some specifics on location and/or geography and the flavors they can impart?

Thanks!

M

The Ultimate Cigar Book by Richard Hacker. It's a damn good read.

http://richardcarletonhacker.com/cigarbooks.html

MrOneEyedBoh 12-11-2009 05:15 PM

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On cigars that crack. Can a cigar crack when smoking if its rolled too tightly? The cigar I smoked today started to crack about 1/3 of the way Into It. Like all over as the cigar burned down. its weird because it from my vino 65 temp and 65 rh with the usual fluctuations as it cycles. I have pulled other smokes from the vino and no problems. Could a thin wrapper cause it to be ultra fragile and be more prone to cracking?

Chris. 12-11-2009 06:08 PM

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I think it might have more to do with temp changes and thin wrappers. Maybe it got bumped in that particular spot during boxing? Were you smoking it outdoors?

Snake Hips 12-11-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 677126)
On cigars that crack. Can a cigar crack when smoking if its rolled too tightly? The cigar I smoked today started to crack about 1/3 of the way Into It. Like all over as the cigar burned down. its weird because it from my vino 65 temp and 65 rh with the usual fluctuations as it cycles. I have pulled other smokes from the vino and no problems. Could a thin wrapper cause it to be ultra fragile and be more prone to cracking?

Where were you smoking it? This happens a lot when the ambient air where you're smoking is really dry; the tobacco toward the burning end expands (you can see this if you look at a cigar you've been smoking, particular thin and/or box-pressed cigars - they get larger toward the burning end) and the wrapper gets dried out quickly in the dry air and tends to crack.

MrOneEyedBoh 12-11-2009 10:05 PM

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/\ yep. It looked like it was flared at the end. I was driving in my car and it was cold out. I had the heat on but low and the window cracked.

And the wrapper looked pretty thin compared to some other ones I've smoked.

Perfecto 12-12-2009 11:48 PM

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Alright.....well kick me stupid! I just found you guys and would like to elbow in and mingle with the crowd. I not only like to smoke gars but I also like to dibble in trading off a few here and there to help support mine and yours addiction. So I'm looking for the WTB/WTS section for damn good cigars and I know I'm being over looked. I go to the rules section for the retailers and find this..... Default Rules for this room
This is a hobby board. We have WTB/WTS sections for members to transact business in and they should not post here ..... unless told to do so by the admin team based upon the nature of their participation.

So where is it located?
I can see them for coffee..tea and pipes but no gars!

OK start kicking..........

NCRadioMan 12-12-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfecto (Post 678558)
Alright.....well kick me stupid! I just found you guys and would like to elbow in and mingle with the crowd. I not only like to smoke gars but I also like to dibble in trading off a few here and there to help support mine and yours addiction. So I'm looking for the WTB/WTS section for damn good cigars and I know I'm being over looked. I go to the rules section for the retailers and find this..... Default Rules for this room
This is a hobby board. We have WTB/WTS sections for members to transact business in and they should not post here ..... unless told to do so by the admin team based upon the nature of their participation.

So where is it located?
I can see them for coffee..tea and pipes but no gars!

OK start kicking..........

Hang around, post a little bit and get the feel of the place and get to know some members and all kinds of doors will open. :tu

icehog3 12-12-2009 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfecto (Post 678558)
Alright.....well kick me stupid! I just found you guys and would like to elbow in and mingle with the crowd. I not only like to smoke gars but I also like to dibble in trading off a few here and there to help support mine and yours addiction. So I'm looking for the WTB/WTS section for damn good cigars and I know I'm being over looked. I go to the rules section for the retailers and find this..... Default Rules for this room
This is a hobby board. We have WTB/WTS sections for members to transact business in and they should not post here ..... unless told to do so by the admin team based upon the nature of their participation.

So where is it located?
I can see them for coffee..tea and pipes but no gars!

OK start kicking..........

You will see it soon with a little participation and patience. Remember when you do get access, there is no buying, selling or trading of Cuban cigars at Cigar Asylum. Welcome and enjoy your stay, it's a great place to hang out.

Ranger_B 12-12-2009 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfecto (Post 678558)
Alright.....well kick me stupid! I just found you guys and would like to elbow in and mingle with the crowd. I not only like to smoke gars but I also like to dibble in trading off a few here and there to help support mine and yours addiction.

Welcome to the asylum. You might want to take a gander at the NST. Here is the link:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14254 . Correct me if I am out of line here TOE but the whole purpose behind this one is to build some experience and some trader feedback. As you will see the longer you are here this is a great place to sample and share yours and others experience in this hobby of ours.

icehog3 12-13-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger_B (Post 678567)
Welcome to the asylum. You might want to take a gander at the NST. Here is the link:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14254 . Correct me if I am out of line here TOE but the whole purpose behind this one is to build some experience and some trader feedback. As you will see the longer you are here this is a great place to sample and share yours and others experience in this hobby of ours.

You're not out of line, Frank, thanks for the assist. :)

Perfecto 12-13-2009 12:11 AM

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I like it already.........I feel like trap doors are everywhere......I think I feel Ninja mode coming on!
Hey.. thanks for quick responses guys.

Puff on........


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