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PeteSB75 03-12-2009 02:42 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 284455)
No idea what soft tissue work is....I think I starting this program in late Dec..There are some days that my shins feel fine and others where a short jog hurts.
Do you stretch every time you run? Preferably after, when everything is fully warm and more pliable.

Mugen910 03-12-2009 02:56 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
I try to usually...but not for very long...

PeteSB75 03-12-2009 03:01 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 284512)
I try to usually...but not for very long...
10 minutes should be enough to hit pretty much everything.

zemekone 03-12-2009 03:19 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 280796)
why? they require strong hams, quads, glutes, spinal erectors, traps, lats, and the ability to use them all basically at the same time.

seems like a better overall strength indicator than the bench.

then again, my vote goes to deadlift. it always goes to deadlift. :D :ze
i know this is late, but the deadlift is a true indcator of strength...

BigFrank 03-12-2009 04:52 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 284455)
No idea what soft tissue work is....I think I starting this program in late Dec..There are some days that my shins feel fine and others where a short jog hurts.
Soft tissue work would be foam rolling, massages, etc. I think stretching is even considered soft tissue work???

If you started in late Dec. We will say it's been 3+ months. Take a week off. During ya week off, relax, do some stretching etc. No lifting or jogging. A pure week off. I think it will do you good.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zemekone (Post 284530)
i know this is late, but the deadlift is a true indcator of strength...
Agreed :ze

icehog3 03-12-2009 05:06 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zemekone (Post 284530)
i know this is late, but the deadlift is a true indcator of strength...
No sissy squats? Good mornings? Dumbbell lunges?


;) :r :r

King James 03-12-2009 05:33 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zemekone (Post 284530)
i know this is late, but the deadlift is a true indcator of strength...
what about bicep curls....

Ironfreak 03-12-2009 05:53 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 284610)
No sissy squats? Good mornings? Dumbbell lunges?


;) :r :r
Dumbbell lunges are the devil..

Chris. 03-12-2009 07:05 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
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Originally Posted by Ironfreak (Post 284677)
Dumbbell lunges are the devil..
They are definitely a good workout, lol. I like good mornings too. I never do deadlifts. guess I need to start.

Mugen910 03-12-2009 08:20 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 284519)
10 minutes should be enough to hit pretty much everything.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 284593)
Soft tissue work would be foam rolling, massages, etc. I think stretching is even considered soft tissue work???

If you started in late Dec. We will say it's been 3+ months. Take a week off. During ya week off, relax, do some stretching etc. No lifting or jogging. A pure week off. I think it will do you good.
I took a week off somewhere within the 3-4 months I have been running...I think I was just run down. OK so today I popped a few tylenol and started off really slow on the treadmill...then eventually worked my short little legs up to a comfortable speed. So the 7 miles tonight felt really good. I made sure I stretched after and will massage the legs to keep them loose. :tu

I know I didn't have speed on last nights run so I'm wondering if it was just a bad night or the extra +1% on the incline killed me. :hm

Mugen910 03-14-2009 04:35 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
17-18 miles (I don't think the GPS accurate) today around the Charles River in Boston..Felt great and had some speed too. :wo

BigFrank 03-15-2009 10:19 AM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Glad ya felt good during your run Bao.

Sat and Sun off days for me. I feel like a bum. I have 1-2 more weeks in my current training program. Then I think it's time to re-evaluate things. Meet still looks like a go in May, all things considered.

icehog3 03-15-2009 11:02 AM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Been on the Gaspari SuperPump250 for a few days now. I was so thoroughly unimpressed that I went out and bought some Muscle Tech Na NO Vapor. We shall give that a week and see.....

PeteSB75 03-15-2009 03:19 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Continued the full-body from starting strength today.

Squat
45x5
95x5
135x5
185x5
240x5 3 sets

Press - standing, overhead
45x5
65x5
95x5
105x5 3 sets

Deadlift
95x5
135x5
155x5 3 sets

Pull-up - assists, not quite able to do an unassisted
3 sets

icehog3 03-15-2009 03:39 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Hit back today, didn't have much gas after hockey and working until 3AM last night, but I tore it up anyway.

Did pull-ups, varying my grip from ultra wide to close grip. Got 20 the first set, was down to 9 by set 7.

Light bent-over rows, 205 for several high rep sets.

Cable rows with an angled close grip, 285 for sets of 14 down to 8.

Super wide pulldowns, sets at 240 for 15 reps.

I earned my sirloin burger and whole grain rice today. :r

BigFrank 03-15-2009 03:45 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 288246)
Been on the Gaspari SuperPump250 for a few days now. I was so thoroughly unimpressed that I went out and bought some Muscle Tech Na NO Vapor. We shall give that a week and see.....
Ive heard similar things about SuperPump. Not much to mention about MT's junk either.
Been back on Shock Therapy and loving it. Best method so far has been 1 server, with extra Beta-alanine, simple carbs and BCAA's pre-workout. Then during workout I sip 1/2 serving and carbs w/ BCAA's. Been a great combo so far.

icehog3 03-15-2009 03:57 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 288590)
Ive heard similar things about SuperPump. Not much to mention about MT's junk either.
Been back on Shock Therapy and loving it. Best method so far has been 1 server, with extra Beta-alanine, simple carbs and BCAA's pre-workout. Then during workout I sip 1/2 serving and carbs w/ BCAA's. Been a great combo so far.
Might have to give that a try next, Frank. I have had two good workouts with the MT, but I know that other factors can be involved, so I will give it a few more days before I decide if I truly like it.

As for the SuperPump, I have been disappointed with every Gaspari product I have ever tried....shame on me for trying another.

Mugen910 03-15-2009 08:26 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Did a 5k race around the boston metro area today...I actually just jogged since i didn't want my buddy's wife to be left behind. It was a nice pace to get the juices flowing in the legs. :tu Tomorrow is cross training and lower body. :wo

Hope everyone had a great weekend session...

Tom that sirloin burger sounds :dr

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 288189)
Glad ya felt good during your run Bao.

Sat and Sun off days for me. I feel like a bum. I have 1-2 more weeks in my current training program. Then I think it's time to re-evaluate things. Meet still looks like a go in May, all things considered.

Me too Frank....I was so relieved to be able to run that far and not worry about my shins.

icehog3 03-15-2009 08:48 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 288894)
Did a 5k race around the boston metro area today...I actually just jogged since i didn't want my buddy's wife to be left behind. It was a nice pace to get the juices flowing in the legs. :tu Tomorrow is cross training and lower body. :wo

Hope everyone had a great weekend session...

Tom that sirloin burger sounds :dr




Me too Frank....I was so relieved to be able to run that far and not worry about my shins.
It was, Bao...so I had another. :)

Congrats on the run, Brother!

King James 03-15-2009 08:52 PM
Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 288599)
As for the SuperPump, I have been disappointed with every Gaspari product I have ever tried....shame on me for trying another.
weird.... I like superpump and WF did nothing for me


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