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emopunker2004 12-20-2012 04:42 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768553)
Got one of the last on Tuesday.
Armalite AR10 on the way.
Figure with that, I can pop them long before they hit the range for my AR15.
Should be in my hands soon.
Now for the difficult task of finding ammo and extra 20+ mags.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....l-308-762-nato
http://www.freedommunitions.com/cate...how=160&page=1

Both sites are good to go

spectrrr 12-20-2012 04:44 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768553)
Got one of the last on Tuesday.
Armalite AR10 on the way.
Figure with that, I can pop them long before they hit the range for my AR15.
Should be in my hands soon.
Now for the difficult task of finding ammo and extra 20+ mags.

NICE Carlos! I'm Jealous on that score!

I'm actively looking for an AR10 or an M1a myself...

Blueface 12-20-2012 04:48 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1768560)

Thanks.
Amazing how prices have shot up.

Blueface 12-20-2012 04:51 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1768562)
NICE Carlos! I'm Jealous on that score!

I'm actively looking for an AR10 or an M1a myself...

I remembered having visited Palmetto State Armory, whom I have bought ammo from, and decided to check to see if they had any left.
My friend got one and I think I bought the last one on Tuesday morning.
This is what I have coming.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...33ABC47A9F.jpg

Blueface 12-20-2012 05:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammo?
Seems majority of it is now made in the US.
This is a great price given current ammo prices/demand.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...mjbt-308a.html

emopunker2004 12-20-2012 05:20 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768576)
Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammo?
Seems majority of it is now made in the US.
This is a great price given current ammo prices/demand.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...mjbt-308a.html

The only Fiocchi I've uses was in .40 S&W but it's always worked great for me.

spectrrr 12-20-2012 05:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Hey Justin, did you notice that DSGarms makes cigars? :)
http://dsgarms.com/Category/360_1/DSG_Cigar_Co_.aspx

Ranger_B 12-20-2012 05:38 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I have run 9mm Fiocchi through a couple of my pistols with no problem. Price is always great with it.

emopunker2004 12-20-2012 05:39 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1768588)
Hey Justin, did you notice that DSGarms makes cigars? :)
http://dsgarms.com/Category/360_1/DSG_Cigar_Co_.aspx

:r I saw that. Not sure if they're any good. I'm sure the guys over on arfcom know.

forgop 12-20-2012 08:15 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Just filled out an application for a handgun permit and I've never owned one.

Trying to decide what to buy...I want something I can conceal and I can get in the $400-500 range and I'm ok with buying used. Not sure what I really care for as far as 9mm, 40/45, etc and thinking a 4" variety.

My brother recommended Springfield XD and Glock...what would you recommend?

jluck 12-20-2012 08:34 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1768698)
Just filled out an application for a handgun permit and I've never owned one.

Trying to decide what to buy...I want something I can conceal and I can get in the $400-500 range and I'm ok with buying used. Not sure what I really care for as far as 9mm, 40/45, etc and thinking a 4" variety.

My brother recommended Springfield XD and Glock...what would you recommend?

Start with a good 9mm, Ruger,Sig,Smith etc. There is soo many good ones these days.:2

Digs 12-20-2012 08:41 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1768698)
Just filled out an application for a handgun permit and I've never owned one.

Trying to decide what to buy...I want something I can conceal and I can get in the $400-500 range and I'm ok with buying used. Not sure what I really care for as far as 9mm, 40/45, etc and thinking a 4" variety.

My brother recommended Springfield XD and Glock...what would you recommend?

I prefer glock over the XD's

But I just got the new XDS .45 on Saturday love that its the same size as my G26 but in .45 it was only $549 otd

In this pic it's laying on top of my "baby glock"26

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...7b08f9c3aa.jpg

Digs 12-20-2012 08:44 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768576)
Anyone ever use Fiocchi ammo?
Seems majority of it is now made in the US.
This is a great price given current ammo prices/demand.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...mjbt-308a.html

It's fine fired thousands of rounds of Fiochi that's actual a little high my local cabelas usually has it for $10.99 a box (or they did)

big a 12-20-2012 08:54 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1768698)
Just filled out an application for a handgun permit and I've never owned one.

Trying to decide what to buy...I want something I can conceal and I can get in the $400-500 range and I'm ok with buying used. Not sure what I really care for as far as 9mm, 40/45, etc and thinking a 4" variety.

My brother recommended Springfield XD and Glock...what would you recommend?

I have a ruger Lcp and love it. I have a back pocket holster, just feels like I have two wallets. I have been looking at an lc9, xds, or s&w shield for an inside the waste option. All of these are in your price range or very close if you look around.

I like my glock and cannot go wrong with one. Just all I have seen or tried are not comfortable to carry. But just like cigars, everyone likes different options. Before buying see if any of your local ranges have some that you could rent before spending all the money.

Blueface 12-20-2012 09:26 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1768698)
...what would you recommend?

Just like a wife, booze or cigars, loaded question as so personal.
I have now learned what I had been told previously, feel them up, it's a personal thing. They all feel different to you than to me.
The XD is a great gun but thick and may not be what some like with the way the safety is set up. I thought I wanted one until I held it.
Glocks are fantastic, as I own a 21 and can attest but almost bought a 26 for concealed but also felt bulky.
Ended up with a Ruger LCP for true tiny concealed and a S&W Shield which is slim and incredibly low recoil and is truly my favorite. However, finding one is the challenge due to demand for it.
Gun shows or a large dealer are the best place to go.
Lastly, shoot it. Amazing how many you eliminate once you fire them.

BTW, that XDs is an amazing little, slim powerhouse but you sacrifice by having low capacity in mag due to caliber. Probably my next gun as is only XD that is slim.

Digs 12-20-2012 09:38 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768754)
Just like a wife, booze or cigars, loaded question as so personal.
I have now learned what I had been told previously, feel them up, it's a personal thing. They all feel different to you than to me.
The XD is a great gun but thick and may not be what some like with the way the safety is set up. I thought I wanted one until I held it.
Glocks are fantastic, as I own a 21 and can attest but almost bought a 26 for concealed but also felt bulky.
Ended up with a Ruger LCP for true tiny concealed and a S&W Shield which is slim and incredibly low recoil and is truly my favorite. However, finding one is the challenge due to demand for it.
Gun shows or a large dealer are the best place to go.
Lastly, shoot it. Amazing how many you eliminate once you fire them.

BTW, that XDs is an amazing little, slim powerhouse but you sacrifice by having low capacity in mag due to caliber. Probably my next gun as is only XD that is slim.


I just sold my LCP for something a little more powerful I don't feel like I have sacrificed capacity. The Xds is 5+1 the LCP is 6+1, heck I will give up one round to carry the.45 vs .380 :2

I have my LCP holsters for sale over on the WT/S thread :r

Blueface 12-20-2012 09:58 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1768762)
I just sold my LCP for something a little more powerful I don't feel like I have sacrificed capacity. The Xds is 5+1 the LCP is 6+1, heck I will give up one round to carry the.45 vs .380 :2

I have my LCP holsters for sale over on the WT/S thread :r

No doubt. Same here.
I now seldom use my LCP since getting the Shield.
I do love that XDs quite a bit and see it in my immediate future, specially since now seeing Bud's selling it for $599.

jsnake 12-20-2012 10:51 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Can anyone here tell me where I can find a bolt carrier group and 16" barrel for 5.56? Trying to finish a build and everyone is out of everything. I know a lot of local places might have parts though. Like around here I can still get high capacity magazines at normal prices. Please PM me if you know of anywhere that might have these in stock. I have spent 5 days searching the internet with no luck. Thanks!

big_jaygee 12-20-2012 11:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
i have a glock model 32 which is chambered in .357 sig. i love it. same ballistics as a .40s&w just a flatter trajectory and it has the same knock down power of a .357 mag just in a semi-auto platform. it is a necked down .40 so the same amount of rounds. it is the sub-compact model and i carry it everyday with no problems. since im a big fan of the glock i will not weigh in on whats better but i will say go for what fits better in your hand. if you can find a gun range that has loaner guns that will let you try them out.

emopunker2004 12-20-2012 11:13 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1768762)
I just sold my LCP for something a little more powerful I don't feel like I have sacrificed capacity. The Xds is 5+1 the LCP is 6+1, heck I will give up one round to carry the.45 vs .380 :2

I have my LCP holsters for sale over on the WT/S thread :r

How do you like it? I'm torn between that and a Taurus PT1911 w/rail

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768766)
No doubt. Same here.
I now seldom use my LCP since getting the Shield.
I do love that XDs quite a bit and see it in my immediate future, specially since now seeing Bud's selling it for $599.

Grabagun has them for less btw. $523 for the black

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake (Post 1768777)
Can anyone here tell me where I can find a bolt carrier group and 16" barrel for 5.56? Trying to finish a build and everyone is out of everything. I know a lot of local places might have parts though. Like around here I can still get high capacity magazines at normal prices. Please PM me if you know of anywhere that might have these in stock. I have spent 5 days searching the internet with no luck. Thanks!

Good luck. BCGs have been super hard to come by for the past couple months and now it's worse. You may want to go over to AR15.com and look in the equipment exchange for a bcg and barrel. Prepare to be buttraped though. BCGs are going for $300 each

emopunker2004 12-20-2012 11:20 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
barrels
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts...rels/index.htm

Digs 12-21-2012 04:30 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake (Post 1768777)
Can anyone here tell me where I can find a bolt carrier group and 16" barrel for 5.56? Trying to finish a build and everyone is out of everything. I know a lot of local places might have parts though. Like around here I can still get high capacity magazines at normal prices. Please PM me if you know of anywhere that might have these in stock. I have spent 5 days searching the internet with no luck. Thanks!

Windham weaponry has M4 barrels assembly's, my buddy ordered one Tuesaday.

Not sure on the BCG

Digs 12-21-2012 06:03 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Justin I personally wouldn't touch that Taurus with a 10' pole - to many mim parts. Kind of too different animals a 5" 1911 (well sort of, haha) compared to the xds with a 3.3" barrel. What are you looking for a range .45 or a carry .45?

To answer your question I like it, I shoot a lot in 2011 fired over 10k rounds. i do find the recoil pretty stout. It is almost identical in size to my glock 26 & 27 just thinner in the grip which makes it easier to conceal. Its a nice change I used carry my glock 20, then went to the little ruger LCP now I feel like a man again :r



Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1768784)
How do you like it? I'm torn between that and a Taurus PT1911 w/rail



Grabagun has them for less btw. $523 for the black



Good luck. BCGs have been super hard to come by for the past couple months and now it's worse. You may want to go over to AR15.com and look in the equipment exchange for a bcg and barrel. Prepare to be buttraped though. BCGs are going for $300 each


forgop 12-21-2012 06:45 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I may or may not have back ordered 4 more stripped lowers during the late night hours. If I did, that makes 8 stripped lowers from 8 different manufacturers are on order.

CigarSquid 12-21-2012 06:49 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I am looking at getting a Remington 870, prolly 18 inch barrel in a month or so.. Doing the research still.

emopunker2004 12-21-2012 07:55 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Dennis I have no problem with the MIM parts. I used to own a Metro Arms AC2 that was basically the same deal, and it ran great. MIM parts when done right are fine.

I want a carry and range gun. I know I can carry a 5" 1911 with a good holster as I did that before with the AC2. Decisions decisions.

dijit 12-21-2012 08:11 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big_jaygee (Post 1768783)
i have a glock model 32 which is chambered in .357 sig. i love it. same ballistics as a .40s&w just a flatter trajectory and it has the same knock down power of a .357 mag just in a semi-auto platform. it is a necked down .40 so the same amount of rounds. it is the sub-compact model and i carry it everyday with no problems. since im a big fan of the glock i will not weigh in on whats better but i will say go for what fits better in your hand. if you can find a gun range that has loaner guns that will let you try them out.

I had the .357sig in a sig 226 loved the round and the weapon. Reloading was a bear and it became very expensive to buy ammo. I did manage to make some defense rounds in 357sig that were pushing 1400 fps and my math says it was approaching 500ft/lbs knockdown while keeping the chamber pressure to around 43000 psi. Loved shooting those at the range! Everyone would stop to see what I was shooting.

emopunker2004 12-21-2012 08:32 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
NRA press conference on NRA.com at 1045 eastern 945 central

Blueface 12-21-2012 08:41 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1768851)
I am looking at getting a Remington 870, prolly 18 inch barrel in a month or so.. Doing the research still.

Take a look at the new Mossberg Flex that allows easy change of stock to any format and comes with rail.
Saw it in person at recent show and fell in love.

CigarSquid 12-21-2012 08:47 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768913)
Take a look at the new Mossberg Flex that allows easy change of stock to any format and comes with rail.
Saw it in person at recent show and fell in love.

For me, That is to much money. I can get the Remington, before the end of the year for 299.99. It will mainly sit in the house.. maybe see a range once a month or every other. I am more going for a home protection gun and fun. I Have never hunted in my life.

I would something that is decent, decent gun and decent on the check book.

Blueface 12-21-2012 09:09 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1768914)
For me, That is to much money. I can get the Remington, before the end of the year for 299.99. It will mainly sit in the house.. maybe see a range once a month or every other. I am more going for a home protection gun and fun. I Have never hunted in my life.

I would something that is decent, decent gun and decent on the check book.

I know everyone has a range/threshold of what they will spend but it is only $100 more and from that you have a cruiser, standard or tactical, all in one.

CigarSquid 12-21-2012 09:17 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1768930)
I know everyone has a range/threshold of what they will spend but it is only $100 more and from that you have a cruiser, standard or tactical, all in one.

Maybe I was viewing the wrong one. For 100 bucks more, I'd do it.

big_jaygee 12-21-2012 09:24 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1768882)
Loved shooting those at the range! Everyone would stop to see what I was shooting.

happens all the time... when i was getting my ccw the range master had to come over to see what all that noise was, apparently it is louder then the .40's and .45's that were being shot around me. :r and yes it is a smoking little round! :tu

bonjing 12-21-2012 10:05 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Brownells is still showing in stock for cmmg lower parts kit 308

Blueface 12-21-2012 11:40 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1768938)
Maybe I was viewing the wrong one. For 100 bucks more, I'd do it.

Yup.
Here it is at Bud's. I guess demand has made it go up a few bucks but still reasonable.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...8%22+CB+PG+SYN

spectrrr 12-21-2012 12:20 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1768973)
Brownells is still showing in stock for cmmg lower parts kit 308

just checked, CMMG 308 lower officially showing as discontinued now :)

Blueface 12-21-2012 12:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
No Armalite 308 20 round mags to be found.
If anyone has a secret place, well, lets make it not secret.:D

spectrrr 12-21-2012 12:39 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1768849)
I may or may not have back ordered 4 more stripped lowers during the late night hours. If I did, that makes 8 stripped lowers from 8 different manufacturers are on order.

I thought about ordering a Spikes stripped lower from DSGarms the other night ($89, cheap)... even added it to my cart. Then I realized I've never purchased a gun online and have no idea where to ship it near me. :tg


Well Carlos, I'll be at a show tomorrow, but no way in hell I expect to find any mags!

elderboy02 12-21-2012 12:52 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Whatever you do don't buy Taurus. I had bad experiences with Taurus and I was glad to sell mine.

MurphysLaw 12-21-2012 01:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1769051)
Whatever you do don't buy Taurus. I had bad experiences with Taurus and I was glad to sell mine.

I had a PT140 that was total junk, however my 605 .357 revolver was a nice little gun.

dijit 12-21-2012 01:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well since I have sold my .357 sig if anyone is interested I have some gold dot and and I think remington JHP rounds I dont need and about 200 Gold Dot bullets for reloading. PM me if interested

emopunker2004 12-21-2012 07:40 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1769051)
Whatever you do don't buy Taurus. I had bad experiences with Taurus and I was glad to sell mine.

Was it a Taurus 1911?

CigarSquid 12-21-2012 10:36 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1769014)
Yup.
Here it is at Bud's. I guess demand has made it go up a few bucks but still reasonable.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...8%22+CB+PG+SYN

I am not sure I want a pistol grip.. Never shoot one with that.

spectrrr 12-21-2012 10:58 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
pistol grip has it's purposes... but damned uncomfortable to shoot em :(


Went ahead and pulled the trigger on a couple of inexpensive stripped lowers. I have serious doubts they'll show up anytime in the next 18 months... but *shrug*

LostAbbott 12-21-2012 11:41 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Hey guys I am looking into getting a sub compact or whatever they are calling these days. I have shot a M&P 40c and am looking into the shield not sure if I want the 9 or the 40. Also looking at the Walther pps or the kahr pm. What do you guys think? Anyone you like better? Is there something else I should be looking into.

emopunker2004 12-22-2012 12:01 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I had a Kahr CM9 which I loved! I think Brian has the PM9.

Digs 12-22-2012 08:02 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1769250)
Was it a Taurus 1911?



Talk to any gun shop or gun smith, taurus has some of the highest rates of returns, I am just sayin :D

Digs 12-22-2012 08:08 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Hey Justin I don't want to come across as a gun snob....:r

MIM parts matter to me, they are used for one reason and one reason only and that's to save a buck! I have seen many mim parts just snap / break .

If I am surrounded by walkers the pistol I want on me hopefully will have no powdered metal parts :r:r


Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1768874)
Dennis I have no problem with the MIM parts. I used to own a Metro Arms AC2 that was basically the same deal, and it ran great. MIM parts when done right are fine.

I want a carry and range gun. I know I can carry a 5" 1911 with a good holster as I did that before with the AC2. Decisions decisions.


MurphysLaw 12-22-2012 08:16 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1769327)
I had a Kahr CM9 which I loved! I think Brian has the PM9.

I do, great little carry gun :tu

Pilon 12-22-2012 08:50 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Has anyone seen this?

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/fu...part-1C7404226


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