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replicant_argent 01-30-2010 07:49 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looks decidedly more AK-ish than Uzi-ish... but it shore is purty..:r
That surface is a fingerprint technicians wet dream I imagine.

http://www.helstongunsmiths.com/shop...icture-055.jpg

Mark C 01-30-2010 08:20 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 741531)
Have you tested it to prove the research though?

Patterns nice. My wife won't let me shoot in the house, so I can't test penetration, and I can't convince anyone to stand on the business end of the gun to test stopping power, so negative on that one also. Guess I'll just have to trust what others have done.

0002S 01-30-2010 08:35 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot17.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot22.htm



Interesting article and site

JE3146 01-30-2010 09:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 741606)
Patterns nice. My wife won't let me shoot in the house, so I can't test penetration, and I can't convince anyone to stand on the business end of the gun to test stopping power, so negative on that one also. Guess I'll just have to trust what others have done.

:r!

Get a chunk of drywall from Home Depot or something. That's what I did to test penetration. 2 layers with an air gap from some 2x4's provide a nice simulation. Just set up a piece of paper on the opposite end about 6 inches past that and have at her :D

Mark C 01-31-2010 06:30 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 741691)
:r!

Get a chunk of drywall from Home Depot or something. That's what I did to test penetration. 2 layers with an air gap from some 2x4's provide a nice simulation. Just set up a piece of paper on the opposite end about 6 inches past that and have at her :D

Would love to, but I haven't found a range nearby that would let me shoot anything other than paper targets and clays. Maybe I'll keep a setup in the car for the days when nobody's around. Since I think that rule is geared at 'reactive targets', maybe they wouldn't mind...

Here's another site for shotgun load info:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=7&t=109958

gettysburgfreak 01-31-2010 10:15 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 741576)
wow, the Mexican drug lords are not only well armed, but also gold plating their Uzis...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_3028.jpg

guess when the money piles up, you gotta find some way to spend it...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_2111.jpg


That picture reminds me of a picture they showed us here at the academy. It was a mexican drug lords house they raided and it had a room containing 230 million dollars worth of cash stacked up. Just plain ridiculous.

AAlmeter 01-31-2010 08:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
"Old Painless" does some great work. I have access to a great variety of shotguns and plan on doing a lot of shotgun testing for both hunting and home defense purposes once it gets back up into double digit temperatures here in Buffalo. I'll surely post results to this thread and if anyone has any suggestions/theories/questions they'd like tried out, I'll be sure to give them a whirl. The first one to go is the accuracy of a rifled slug out of a rifled barrel. OP touched on this, but if his results are repeatable, it could mean a lot to hunters in my area who are stuck with slugs only.

elderboy02 01-31-2010 08:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AAlmeter (Post 742647)
"Old Painless" does some great work. I have access to a great variety of shotguns and plan on doing a lot of shotgun testing for both hunting and home defense purposes once it gets back up into double digit temperatures here in Buffalo. I'll surely post results to this thread and if anyone has any suggestions/theories/questions they'd like tried out, I'll be sure to give them a whirl. The first one to go is the accuracy of a rifled slug out of a rifled barrel. OP touched on this, but if his results are repeatable, it could mean a lot to hunters in my area who are stuck with slugs only.

I love Old Painless' work. He is a great guy.

357 01-31-2010 09:19 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 742170)
That picture reminds me of a picture they showed us here at the academy. It was a mexican drug lords house they raided and it had a room containing 230 million dollars worth of cash stacked up. Just plain ridiculous.

They didn't find it stacked that way. It was hidden in the walls, etc. Here's the full story:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/drugmoney.asp

GreekGodX 02-01-2010 02:38 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So I wonder if anyone skimmed any cream off the top of that big pile 'o money :D

Deputy 02-01-2010 12:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I love guns. My first gun was a Glock 22....haven't looked back since!

Cigarcop 02-01-2010 02:03 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 742866)
So I wonder if anyone skimmed any cream off the top of that big pile 'o money :D


Ahhh, what I could do with just one row :(

gettysburgfreak 02-01-2010 06:07 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 742689)
They didn't find it stacked that way. It was hidden in the walls, etc. Here's the full story:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/drugmoney.asp



Thanks for the article, that was indeed the picture they showed us, pretty cool to read the full story.

M1903A1 02-02-2010 04:27 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 741576)
wow, the Mexican drug lords are not only well armed, but also gold plating their Uzis...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_3028.jpg

guess when the money piles up, you gotta find some way to spend it...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_2111.jpg

Reminds me of what somebody did to a 1941 Johnson rifle (a $3000+ collector's piece in good original form) that I saw at a show last fall. :pu :pu :pu

357 02-02-2010 06:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 743686)
Thanks for the article, that was indeed the picture they showed us, pretty cool to read the full story.

NP. It's a pretty crazy story. The guy got away...for a while.

Tikihut27 02-03-2010 03:47 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
My new toy from a show this past weekend. Always wanted one.

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/IMG_0024.jpg

Wolfgang 02-06-2010 12:28 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looking to help mt gun fund. Thought I would let you all in on it.

Spyderco Persistence FS

smokeyandthebandit05 02-06-2010 09:10 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I finally got my Del-Ton upper. It fits like a glove and the finish its pretty much perfect. There is only one spot by the flash suppressor that is very slightly showing thru but I would have to say its just from assembly and handling. Other than that I could not be happier. It took about 13 days total to order it, build it, and ship it from NC. :tu

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...DSC01056-1.jpg

elderboy02 02-17-2010 06:26 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 750320)
I finally got my Del-Ton upper. It fits like a glove and the finish its pretty much perfect. There is only one spot by the flash suppressor that is very slightly showing thru but I would have to say its just from assembly and handling. Other than that I could not be happier. It took about 13 days total to order it, build it, and ship it from NC. :tu

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...DSC01056-1.jpg

Nice!

elderboy02 02-17-2010 06:28 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Here is my latest purchase. AR15.com 2 years ago had the idea of making some lowers. 2 years later, they offered them to lifetime members 1st. I requested #69 :) Just picked this up today. Oh yeah, everytime they do the instant background check, I just am so happy I wasn't old enough to buy guns back in the day when you had to wait days for the background check.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0427.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0432.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0433.jpg


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