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ksknnr 09-03-2015 08:51 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2052017)
Not like him? Are you kidding? I LOVE playing Super Bowls against him.

Looks like he has bigger fish to catch than a suspension. That would only cost him salary for four games. Looks like 50% of all he owns is at risk.
https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/new-i...d-for-divorce/

I would be more worried if I was her, she makes way more than he does,

markem 09-03-2015 09:14 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Personally, I like Fran Tarkenton as a quarterback.

mosesbotbol 09-03-2015 11:38 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Deflategate hasn't been easy on him. Even he is human.

shilala 09-03-2015 11:52 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
I figured these guys would settle for 2 games. Huh.
There's a 40 page ruling on this, and the few findings I saw were just plain stupid on the NFL's part. They can appeal till the cows come home, it's unwinnable.

And by "just plain stupid", I mean the NFL wouldn't let Brady's lawyers depose a witness or share evidence.

Now, tell me this...
With all the lawyers at the NFL's disposal, they had to tell Goodell how this would play out if he didn't play ball.
It was unwinnable.
To me, it seems he played it that way on purpose. Almost had to. He is not a stupid man, not by a longshot.

Just another "keep the NFL in the spotlight in the offseason" contrived soap opera, if you ask me.

Blueface 09-03-2015 12:15 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Interesting article in USA Today citing judge's verbiage in ruling.

Says:
"Brady had no notice that a “general awareness” of misconduct by others could lead to discipline."

Say what?:lr

Weelok 09-03-2015 12:54 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Deflate the hate!

Brady and Patriots for Super Bowl champions again!!!! Yes!!!!!!!

ksknnr 09-03-2015 12:58 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2052071)
I figured these guys would settle for 2 games. Huh.
There's a 40 page ruling on this, and the few findings I saw were just plain stupid on the NFL's part. They can appeal till the cows come home, it's unwinnable.

And by "just plain stupid", I mean the NFL wouldn't let Brady's lawyers depose a witness or share evidence.

Now, tell me this...
With all the lawyers at the NFL's disposal, they had to tell Goodell how this would play out if he didn't play ball.
It was unwinnable.
To me, it seems he played it that way on purpose. Almost had to. He is not a stupid man, not by a longshot.

Just another "keep the NFL in the spotlight in the offseason" contrived soap opera, if you ask me.

you are absolutely right with the spotlight on the offseason, you wouldn't even know we had three (four if you count soccer) sports teams in town by listening to the sports radio since this started.

AdamJoshua 09-03-2015 01:21 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
His real punishment is having to throw properly inflated balls and watching them bounce off of his recievers hands as well as watching the running backs fumble at a rate closer to the league average, not the improbably low average they have had over the last 7 years.

dave 09-03-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
^^^

That's exactly why I don't understand the complete disdain for Goodell. NFL is national topic of conversation and/or news almost every day. We're still a week away from the first game of the season.....and all off-season we have NOT been talking about concussions or outrageous ticket prices.....or even wife beaters, child beaters or cell-mate killers. Seems to me he's getting the job done even if cheaters get away with one.

Stephen 09-03-2015 01:47 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 2052004)
To bad for all the haters..Know on for another Super Bowl Run!!

Not with that secondary you're not.

Stephen 09-03-2015 01:50 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
double post.

Stephen 09-03-2015 01:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2052017)
Looks like he has bigger fish to catch than a suspension. That would only cost him salary for four games. Looks like 50% of all he owns is at risk.
https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/new-i...d-for-divorce/

Meh, even if true, she has a higher net worth than he does.

Blueface 09-03-2015 02:24 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 2052103)
Meh, even if true, she has a higher net worth than he does.

Holy crap!
Nearly three times as much as him.
Who would have thunk it,

dijit 09-03-2015 02:27 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2052077)
Interesting article in USA Today citing judge's verbiage in ruling.

Says:
"Brady had no notice that a “general awareness” of misconduct by others could lead to discipline."

Say what?:lr

That means every high school and college as well as professional athletics program will necessarily need to revamp their rule books to include, "if you are dumb enough to get caught then there will be punishment commensurate with the degree of the cheating."

If they dont then it is proof that sportsmanship is dead and its all about the money.

Tio Gato 09-03-2015 02:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
I just give thanks that it's over. My wife worships Tom and is totally thrilled. I think if I had a Tom Brady mask on when she gets home I'd get lucky big time.:noon

AdamJoshua 09-03-2015 02:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3e&oe=567B9D2E

Dave128 09-03-2015 02:54 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
:r :r Love it, Adam!

Blueface 09-03-2015 03:04 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2052129)

I have just pissed in my pants.:lr

I am stealing that from you.

RJrocker 09-03-2015 03:07 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tio Gato (Post 2052128)
I just give thanks that it's over.

:tpd:

Blueface 09-03-2015 03:39 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tio Gato (Post 2052128)
I just give thanks that it's over. My wife worships Tom and is totally thrilled. I think if I had a Tom Brady mask on when she gets home I'd get lucky big time.:noon

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJrocker (Post 2052134)
:tpd:

:r

You guys obviously did not hear of the forthcoming appeal.
However, NFL will not fight for a stay of the judgment in the meantime, meaning he will play for now.

Fat lady has yet to sing unfortunately.

Blueface 09-03-2015 04:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Back at you Scott.
Your turn.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ae5a321d69.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...e558467147.jpg

Stephen 09-03-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2052114)
Holy crap!
Nearly three times as much as him.
Who would have thunk it,

Between endorsements and modeling gigs, top supermodels make serious bank.

mk05 09-03-2015 09:04 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Preeeettty sure most people knew this was all a publicity sham. So what if this cost the NFL a couple million dollars? The league and ownership splits ~$9B annual revenue. I think once Brady was not afforded proper due process, everyone knew this was completely bullsht.

All Deflate-gate did was use a very public and well-liked figure, tack on an obviously ridiculous charge to troll people into following it, and watch people frustrate themselves over it; and most people did. NFL finally found a way to stay relevant through the dry summer months, Patriots made great sales of NEP products, and furthermore, Tom Brady may finally realize his political ambitions with this win. How was this not a win, win, win?

icehog3 09-03-2015 11:03 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
I believe the children are our future.

Subvet642 09-04-2015 12:08 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 2052138)
:r

You guys obviously did not hear of the forthcoming appeal.
However, NFL will not fight for a stay of the judgment in the meantime, meaning he will play for now.

Fat lady has yet to sing unfortunately.

Yeah, and we know Goodell always wins on appeal. What's he batting, 0 for 4? :wo

shilala 09-04-2015 10:43 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Absolutely no way Goodell wins this appeal. Zero. None.
There's no way for him to undo multiple screw-ups the NFL and their lawyers made in the legal process.
The only plea they can make is "we didn't really understand the law involved, and decided it best to ignore our lawyers".

Carlos, that's your Fat Lady in a sparkly mumu singing "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" right there. :lr

Also, cake is better than pie.

icehog3 09-04-2015 01:28 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2052261)
Absolutely no way Goodell wins this appeal. Zero. None.

Agreed, 100%.

Blueface 09-04-2015 03:08 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2052261)
Absolutely no way Goodell wins this appeal. Zero. None.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2052284)
Agreed, 100%.

I just want to make I follow this as I am slow.

So..........100% chance that there is a 0% probability of prevailing, 99.9% of the time?:r

;s

Blueface 09-04-2015 03:10 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
I am such a sucker for nostalgia.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...c96b2339ea.jpg

Subvet642 09-11-2015 12:03 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2052094)
His real punishment is having to throw properly inflated balls and watching them bounce off of his receivers' hands as well as watching the running backs fumble at a rate closer to the league average, not the improbably low average they have had over the last 7 years.

Brady threw four TD's against the Steel Curtain. :hm
If that's real punishment, give us more! :lr

icehog3 09-11-2015 12:11 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Not nearly as much punishment as revivng this thread. ;) :lr

pnoon 09-11-2015 09:24 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2053046)
Not nearly as much punishment as revivng this thread. ;) :lr

:tpd:

shilala 09-11-2015 09:35 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Gronk whooped our ass soundly last night.
The pain.

Bruins Fan 09-21-2015 01:42 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
TB 12 hangs 466 and 3 TD'S over the the big blowhard Rex Ryan and the over hyped Bills.
Tom Brady with out a doubt the greatest quarterback that has ever played in the NFL.
Pats are on a mission this year, scorched earth baby!!!:D

dave 09-21-2015 02:24 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Without a doubt?

I won't deny he can be in the conversation....but won't give you 'beyond doubt' or discussion

Bruins Fan 09-21-2015 02:39 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
4 rings 6 appearances and he is not done yet still going strong.
Love him or hate him proof is in the record.

shilala 09-21-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 2054447)
4 rings 6 appearances and he is not done yet still going strong.
Love him or hate him proof is in the record.

By that logic, Brady can never eclipse The Great Terry Bradshaw who earned 4 Super Bowls in 4 appearances. Right?
Bradshaw threw an INT for every TD he ever threw.
Aaron Rodgers throws td's at a 4/1 ratio.
Rodgers has a ring and has reached the postseason 7 of his 7 years as a starter.

Would I put Brady in a "top ten of all-time" argument? Hell yeah. He's amazing.
The best, best ever, or even best playing right now? No.
I'm pretty certain when Rodgers hangs his shoes up he'll replace every single question mark with a period. God willing.

AdamJoshua 09-21-2015 04:40 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
I love me some Terry, but let's face it he was not winning superbowls because he was an amazing QB, he was being dragged to the finish line by some incredibly teammates.

Quote:

Of course, Bradshaw won those Super Bowl rings because he was on the best teams, not because he himself was the best quarterback. Although Bradshaw does have two Super Bowl MVPs to his credit, the 1970s Steelers won Super Bowls first and foremost with their defense. People forget that in 1974, the year the Steelers won their first Super Bowl, Bradshaw was only the starter for half the regular season, and the Steelers actually had a better record in the games he missed than the games he started. People forget that if Bradshaw hadn’t played so badly in so many playoff games, the Steelers could have won more than four Super Bowls: Among Bradshaw’s postseason stat lines were a 5-for-10, 80-yard, one-touchdown, two-interception game in a loss to the Dolphins, a 12-for-25, 167-yard, two-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Raiders, a 14-for-35, 176-yard, zero-touchdown, one-interception game in another loss to the Raiders, and a 19-for-37, 177-yard, one-touchdown, three-interception game in a loss to the Broncos.
Though, yes I know what you are saying, Scott.

icehog3 09-21-2015 04:41 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Cam Neeley for President! :D

Bruins Fan 09-21-2015 04:58 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2054456)
Cam Neeley for President! :D

I'll second that:r

AdamJoshua 09-21-2015 05:02 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
He's been President since 2005...technically.



Edit: but Brady still sucks

shilala 09-21-2015 05:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2054455)
I love me some Terry, but let's face it he was not winning superbowls because he was an amazing QB, he was being dragged to the finish line by some incredibly teammates.

He was awful, Ads. Just plain awful.
I love me some Terry, too. I was being sarcastic when I probably shouldn't have.
But 4/4 still beats 4/6.
Bradshaw didn't lose any Super Bowls. So he's way better than Brady, obviously. :D

icehog3 09-21-2015 09:16 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Bradshaw for the win! :wo

Subvet642 09-21-2015 10:02 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2054495)
He was awful, Ads. Just plain awful.
I love me some Terry, too. I was being sarcastic when I probably shouldn't have.
But 4/4 still beats 4/6.
Bradshaw didn't lose any Super Bowls. So he's way better than Brady, obviously. :D

Yeah, but by the end of this season, Brady will be 5/7. ;) Probably 8/10 by the end of his career; unless someone whines about the weather machine Belichick keeps in his secret volcano lair. :D

shilala 09-21-2015 10:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
4/4 is still 100%. 8/10 is not. :D
I don't see the Pats winning another Super Bowl until they address some major holes.
They're always prepared and sh1t-hot right now, but when the rest of the teams catch up in 6 weeks, they look beatable.
The Steelers and Bills played bad ball, and NE just slipped by.
And that's a bad argument because a win is a win, period. They're just thin and the bench is very shallow. A couple injuries is going to hurt them.
Were it not for Belichick, they'd be in trouble already.
He's easily the best coach in the game. By a long-shot.

Subvet642 09-22-2015 05:42 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2054542)
4/4 is still 100%. 8/10 is not. :D
I don't see the Pats winning another Super Bowl until they address some major holes.
They're always prepared and sh1t-hot right now, but when the rest of the teams catch up in 6 weeks, they look beatable.
The Steelers and Bills played bad ball, and NE just slipped by.
And that's a bad argument because a win is a win, period. They're just thin and the bench is very shallow. A couple injuries is going to hurt them.
Were it not for Belichick, they'd be in trouble already.
He's easily the best coach in the game. By a long-shot.

I haven't been happy with their defense in a long time and the offense can't do everything. I miss Tedy Bruschi!

shilala 09-22-2015 12:43 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
They still just keep getting it done, Darren.
Remember when Tom didn't have anyone to throw the ball to a couple years ago?
Didn't take them long to fix that.
A couple more losses and I think Brady's head would have exploded. :lr

Subvet642 09-22-2015 11:54 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2054590)
They still just keep getting it done, Darren.
Remember when Tom didn't have anyone to throw the ball to a couple years ago?
Didn't take them long to fix that.
A couple more losses and I think Brady's head would have exploded. :lr

Yeah, I remember. There would have been heads exploding all over New England. Still, they allow too many points.

mosesbotbol 09-23-2015 04:47 AM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 2054671)
Still, they allow too many points.

This worries me the most. We can't just keep playing "Let's out score the other team" style of football. Give them a 2-3 more weeks and I think we'll see a defense more in control (I hope).

Bruins Fan 09-23-2015 01:06 PM

Re: Tom Brady
 
Per. Tom E Curren


FOXBORO -- It has to be driving the folks at 345 Park Avenue slightly bananas that the player they worked so hard to keep off the field has been the league’s best through two weeks.

The Patriots are 2-0 and Tom Brady -- out on parole, as it were -- leads the NFL with 754 yards, seven touchdowns passes, and hasn’t thrown a pick.

Interestingly, despite having the best performances in the AFC over the first two weeks, Brady’s been brushed past for the conference’s Offensive Player of the Week honors both times.:confused:

I would love to see Goodell get hit by a truck!!


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