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It's an epic battle in the book... they could make this crazy...

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Great! I hope they don't let their audience down, like they have done in the past.

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I suspect that far more people are watching the show than the amount of folks who have read the books.

If you don't know the books, you can't be too disappointed if the show isn't following them 100%.

:)

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I haven't read the books but one of my friends has read all of them, another the first two and both say the idea/story of his books is great but don't think Martin can write well. They enjoy watching the show more & say the dialogue of the show is much better :2

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I am personally glad I have not read the books. I understand them to be dry and overly-detailed. The show is not, haha.

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Game of Thrones-inspired Troop Auction lot: HERE

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Vin, you are one MESSED UP YANKEE! LOLOLOL

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Haha! That's awesome Vin :noon

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Not a bad episode but again it suffers from focusing on a few characters instead of the whole. Many were not in this episode.

No spoilers so I'll elaborate when everyone seems to have caught up.

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Great episode! :tu

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:tu

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+1

great episode

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Strange I guess I am somewhat alone then or maybe just overly critical. I can't understand why Daenerys Targaryen had zero screen time again. The dragons and whatnot have interested me as to where they will go with it and IIRC with the last 2 episodes she has 1 minute of screen time. The dragons haven't had much screen time either and they were the BIG introduction at the season 1 ending...how deceiving.

Also Jon and the wildlings do not show up in this episode. No one in karth or whatever is in the episode. Also IIRC Rob Stark wasn't in the episode or Lady Stark. Arya Stark wasn't in the episode.....I could continue on but really the only key people in the episode were the Lannisters and Stannis's army. So I have to say....filler episode for the second week in a row.

This show REALLY needs more then 10 episodes per season, they are leaving out people all the time. I can't understand how with SO many key characters you have so few episodes. They are trying to tell an epic story with many people and trying do to it in 10 episodes with a few filler episodes here and there.

I also didn't find the battle to really be on an epic level. The ships getting taken out was really cool but after that it really felt small scale. Definitely not the massive army I was hoping for.

I had also assumed there would be more wellfire or whatnot. The ship was loaded but I figured they would be throwing it down on Stannis's army as well.

Seems like the Lannisters had half a plan and Tyrion had to improvise.

Not really a rant but I'm done.

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I wouldn't recommend calling anyone in the Boston area a Yankee. It won't go over well (think baseball).

There are really just too many different story lines to do all of them justice.

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Epic!! :tu

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From what I have gathered, Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons are not all that relevant in the second book, therefore not getting screen time. Some one correct me if I'm wrong.

I agree that they need more episodes. But, this episode was titled blackwater. It was all about the battle. And I can see where some viewers would be disappointed with it. I loved, for one fact only...they didn't skip the scene! Many other battles have happened where we see the start, and then the end with no actual battle scene. It was awesome to actually see some gory battle action.

I think you might be forgetting that the show is based on the book, so if a character is not getting screen time, it is simply because they are not getting book time. I have heard from people who read the books that you can go hundreds of pages before circling back to a particular character.

With all that being said, the show is called Game of Thrones, I would hardly call this last episode filler, as it was a major fight for the throne.

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I guess I was stating from the fact that the last scene in season 1 was Daenerys Targaryen and the dragons that it would only make logical sense they have a decent bit of time in season 2. However this is not the case, as I said....deceiving and a bit disappointing.

Also, I deemed it filler because who didn't know the Lannisters would prevail? I never read the books but I knew that battle was over for Stannis before the episode aired. So why waste 10% of the season on it? Maybe I just prefer a good story to some action violence I could see in THOUSANDS of movies that has all been done before.

I really think all of the problems and my complaints lie in the small seasons for such a big show. Aren't the ratings enough to allow for 2 more shows budget? Even if it's mostly story and nothing big and expensive?

Or maybe I just like to b!tch a lot and should just enjoy the show for what it is not what it should be....:hm

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Who could have called that Ned Stark would've gotten his head chopped off at the end of Season 1? I've always heard that the books, and thus the show, are anything but predictable :2

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I think you nailed the issue right on the head there.

The battle at Blackwater was a HUGE part of the book - the tension leading up to it, the preparation leading up to it, the actual battle itself, and then all the character story lines that were affected by the battle - the fact that they dedicated an entire episode to it isn't surprising really.

The problem is though, that there is SO much in the book to cram into 10 episodes that you will feel like you're missing out on some things when you don't see most of the characters in one episode. Sure in the books you might go for half a book without hearing from one of the characters, but if you haven't read the books it can easily make the show feel like it's missing pieces. I personally didn't miss Jon, Daenerys, Robb, etc...because I knew they'd be back and the story was busy focusing on Stannis/Tyrion/Sansa.

I know this isn't the way it should be, but I feel like anybody who is watching the series should read the books, and anybody who read the books should watch the series. The show SHOULD be able to stand on its own in terms of comprehension of story lines and characters, but it is so much easier to understand it if you've read the books. Since I've read the books I'm just sitting back and enjoying seeing the visuals of all the things I remember, and whatever they're missing from the books I just fill in from my memories. The problem right there is if you haven't read the books you don't have that information :(

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over detailed, yes, but nowhere near dry. :tu

Muahahahaha! This lot rocks. Having Vinny as your personal Jaqen? Priceless...

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I haven't read the books and am thoroughly enjoying the show. I can't believe that it's almost the end of season 2. My wife wants to re-watch season 1 and 2 again to make sure we are filled in on characters and story lines.

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I am personally of the opinion that Danerys should just bring her pale a55 over to my house and make me a sammich.
I'd be all like "Hey....Danerys....why don't you....get in the kitchen and make me a sammich, got dammit!"

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I'm reading the books right now and a friend and I were talking about one of the nice things martin does is to back up two pov from the same place (Tyrion followed by Sansa for example). It's nice because if you get really into one storyline you just keep wanting more. That being said my friend and I also agreed sometimes characters get lost for too long and you find yourself checking a few chapters ahead just to make sure you'll get to hear more about the characters that tend to get left out for a while. So i guess it's a love hate thing for me but i definitely understand why they decided to do the entire episode at kings landing. The season finale should be pretty great also. Theres a lot going on that was not mentioned in Sundays episode.

As a side note the 5th book is called a dance with dragons so be patient and im sure more dragon fun will come.

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ADWD is a great book so far. In other news, are you coming to the upstate NY herf Saturday?! :D

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I wish. I had a great time last year. I have finals coming up though and then graduation. Have a great time at the herf and hopefully i'll be able to makr it next year

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So it isn't just me? Good, I didn't think I was going crazy yet.

It seems the general consensus is WE WANT MORE GAME OF THRONES!

Now how do we make this happen? :D

:tu

Maybe the dragons could toast the bread and she could just make sandwiches :banger

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If I'm bringing her over to my house, it wouldn't be for her to make me some sammiches. LOL

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bazinga!

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Word.:xxx

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Did NO ONE get the Cartman reference?? My god you people with your Ephones and you Emo-pods and cargo shorts.
Get with the 90s, man.

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Seriously?! @ season ending. Yaaaaaawn...

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For various reasons, I missed the last half of Season 2. Thankfully, I was able to catch them all of the episodes yesterday on the marathon one of the HBO channels was having. I like most of it and there were clearly several story lines (and characters) that were cut from the book. I liked how Blackwater was done, but wish they would have done more. As for the season finale, I thought it was good, especially with Jon Snow, Tyrion and Danerys story lines. The producers could have done more with the other story lines, but the ending shot with Sam and the White Walkers was a good set up for next season.

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White Walkers are :banger

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This I must agree. I was waiting for something epic to happen at the end and it just didn't deliver. In fact I waited 2 days to watch it just because I knew it wasn't going to deliver.

This show has many ups and downs. I'll always watch it but it definitely could be MUCH better.

Everything was quite predictable.

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It had every single character in it at least!

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This is true :r

Hopefully down the road they can budget for a few more episodes in future seasons. Or make it a 90 minute show :dr :dr

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Not true, the brother (who took over winterfell) his sister.....she wasn't in it or if she was I missed her.

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Ugh, this series is driving me crazy since it misses so much from the book. Heck, the entire ending with Danerys was wrong- I thought in the book that she sells one of her dragons for a army of unsoiled, and then she has the dragon burn all of those "leaders" of the city, and then sacks the city with her new army of unsoilled. Am I wrong with that? Seems to me that they need to have the unsoiled army somehow placed int he series since it was a decent part of the book.

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The sister was in the book, but I do not believe she was the one that picked her up. It was the kids Theon's uncle (I think) that picked him up at the dock, mocked him, etc. Sister did not come up until they got closer to the castle I think.

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She goes to Qarth before she goes to Astapor to get her army of Unsullied in the books, so the show isn't wrong in that fact.

However, they have deviated SIGNIFICANTLY from the books with the Qarth storyline. I'm hoping they get back on track with the Astapor/Unsullied storyline, I really liked it.

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Ah, I knew I was missing something! Thanks for setting it straight, and for fixing the names I have done- unsoiled vs. unsullied.

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lol @unsoiled :D

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In the audiobooks, Ray Dotrice pronounced it un-solid...

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I caught one of the last episodes of the season on free HBO yesterday... Made no sense to me, because I never watched the show before! :bh

Reminded me of Lord of the Rings meets the Walking Dead! :tu

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That's funny you should say that Sky, in that the last scene made me sarcastically remark to no one but myself,
"Dang, are zombies SO popular that we have to end season two of GOT with a zombie horde?" Love the show,
but wtf?

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To be fair the book with that scene was written in 2000, and the Others are pretty specifically "frozen winter zombies" just with a different name, so I'm not so sure it was cashing in on zombie popularity so much as just a coincidence :)

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Oh! So the zombie thing is new! I may have to get HBO!:sh

Zombies are nothing new, however it doesn't hurt to throw them in for good measure!:tu

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Haha, I know they aren't playing the zombie card....but I had to say it. Interesting that Season 2 ends about the
way Season 1 Started.

Before I ever saw a show, I looked up G.O.T. on the yousetube and saw the first scene of the first episode where the
guys get overwhelmed by the WWs. I was HOOKED! But I had no idea that it was the very first scene. Once I saw
that scene play out after popping in the Episode 1 DVD, I was like "Oh yeah, it's ON now.

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Yeah, I kind of like how the entire series is started out with the WW's but then completely focuses on other stuff. It kind of puts you in the mindset of most of the people in the book, which is "eh, there's all this other stuff going on, we don't need to worry about fairy tales" and then suddenly it's like "BAM - SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO THE WARNINGS!" :D

I think there is going to be some major poop going down up north and it will be a pretty big focus in the next couple books that will make the struggle for the throne seem small in comparison.