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688sonarmen 04-14-2012 06:46 AM

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Nah, it's going to take time for Wainwright to come back. Everything else was fine in the game, bats were there. Relieving pitching was there. But I think it's Oswalt that is a free agent right now, we might want to pick that guy up just in case Carp does not come back soon.

Wainwright is going to be mentally messed up from it though, dropping the home opener after the WS ceremony that he was out for.

qwerty1500 04-14-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1615970)
Nah, it's going to take time for Wainwright to come back. Everything else was fine in the game, bats were there. Relieving pitching was there. But I think it's Oswalt that is a free agent right now, we might want to pick that guy up just in case Carp does not come back soon.

Wainwright is going to be mentally messed up from it though, dropping the home opener after the WS ceremony that he was out for.

Okay ... we have a problem every fifth game.

Totally agree with Oswalt if he's still available ... not so much to fill in for Carp but maybe, more so, in case Wano keeps coming out and pitching like he did yesterday. From what I saw, really both of his starts, he has some major problems with location.

Not really sure what kind of run this team can make without our #1 and #2 guys in the rotation. Sorry, not very cheerful this morning.

688sonarmen 04-14-2012 03:54 PM

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Cards Win! (Thank God) Another Saturday game blackout on MLBTV but the bats came alive on an error that gave Holiday a single in the 1st, it was history after that. I hope there is a highlight of Yaddi stealing 2nd cause it sounded awesome!

qwerty1500 04-14-2012 04:50 PM

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A win helps. The bench looks like a bunch of interchangeable parts. The bullpen got the job done but Salas still makes me nervous.

688sonarmen 04-14-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1616306)
A win helps. The bench looks like a bunch of interchangeable parts. The bullpen got the job done but Salas still makes me nervous.

Same here, you never know what he is going to do. Interchangeable parts, good or bad?

qwerty1500 04-14-2012 08:55 PM

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Interchangeable parts, good or bad?

It was meant in a good way. The farm system seems to paying some dividends . . . . can't say they are the second coming of AP but the kids have a lot of talent and are making a real contribution.

688sonarmen 04-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Got it, this team is like piranhas. I just read the re-cap and Matheny might have something with giving equal playing time, it seems to be paying off.

688sonarmen 04-15-2012 05:12 PM

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Matt Carpenter!

qwerty1500 04-17-2012 09:55 PM

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Great game. Well pitched on both sides. Rookie comes through again. Seemed like the first real test for Matheny. I think he passed.

688sonarmen 04-18-2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1618994)
Great game. Well pitched on both sides. Rookie comes through again. Seemed like the first real test for Matheny. I think he passed.

Matt Carpenter! I wonder if MM will take Berkman up on his offer now, lol. There were a few close calls that went in our direction. The out at 3rd, depending on which direction it was shown from, 2 out of 3 looked like he was safe. But it was a pretty good game, maybe one day Holliday will start hitting runs instead of line drive bombs to the outfield.

688sonarmen 04-20-2012 05:16 PM

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Well, it didnt take long for Skip to get hurt.

688sonarmen 04-20-2012 07:48 PM

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Cards win! Probably should not have. A few bad calls on our side and man, the Pirates are a really, really sloppy team. Descalso knocked a HR. And I think it's time to stop making excuses for Matt Holliday, he is not right and continues to argue balls that are clearly in the strike zone.

qwerty1500 04-21-2012 07:22 AM

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Think Holliday's problem is physical or mental?

688sonarmen 04-21-2012 07:31 AM

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Think Holliday's problem is physical or mental?

Mental 100%. He choked the last 2 years in the Playoffs and we have seen him hit the crap out of the ball when there is no pressure. I think he is going through a full fledged slump.

kelmac07 04-21-2012 08:13 AM

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Beltran is raking!! Where the hell was that the six years he was in NY? :bh :bh

688sonarmen 04-21-2012 09:01 AM

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Beltran is raking!! Where the hell was that the six years he was in NY? :bh :bh

Yeah, not to rub it in but every time he slams one I think "If only Mac could see this" :r

688sonarmen 04-23-2012 09:04 PM

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Well crap.

qwerty1500 04-24-2012 05:18 AM

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Well crap.

What he said ..........

688sonarmen 04-24-2012 03:25 PM

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Ok, I'm done pouting. It was a great game, Garcia was in the form that we expect from him and it sucks that he got the loss. I don't want to jinx anything but Holliday seems to be out of his slump but I have to say I don't know if it's his attitude or bad luck but calls seem to go against him while he is batting. Mott just could not hang with the Cubs batters, I think the walk he gave up set the tone for the rest at bats, he could not find the strikezone after than. I had a post preloaded as I was watching the game thinking we would get the win, but "Well Crap" pretty much summed up the game :)

qwerty1500 04-24-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1623479)
Well crap.

.... again.

and I still wasn't over the Blown Save on Monday.

688sonarmen 04-25-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1624236)
.... again.

and I still wasn't over the Blown Save on Monday.

Wow, the Cards really should have won this game. 2 blown plays by the umpires, I mean 2 really obvious outs and the Cubs were called safe on them. Good for MM for standing up to the BS.

688sonarmen 04-25-2012 09:48 AM

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Just to clarify. The "Run" at home http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/vid...82569&c_id=stl

And the "Safe" play at 2nd. This is not even arguable. http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/vid...82569&c_id=stl

Anyways. Waino is getting better. His curve ball had the classic movement we are used to seeing. Holliday is still struggling even with the 2 run homer he belted. And the Cards left way to many on base. The only positive thing I can say is it's good to be a Cubs fan right now.

688sonarmen 04-27-2012 09:00 PM

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13-1 that should bring the AVG's up. Tyler Green needs to take a permanent trip back down to the minors, he has had his time and is not contributing offensively or defensively to the game. But after that crappy series with the Cubs it was a good night of baseball!

qwerty1500 04-27-2012 09:46 PM

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13-1 that should bring the AVG's up. Tyler Green needs to take a permanent trip back down to the minors, he has had his time and is not contributing offensively or defensively to the game. But after that crappy series with the Cubs it was a good night of baseball!

Totally agree about Tyler ... guess Tony was right.

Glad that Jay is back in the line-up. He kicked off the big inning and the team just seems to play better with him in there.

And, what's the deal with Westbrook? He doesn't even seem like the same pitcher that made us cringe every start last year. The wife says he reminds her of Danny Cox ... quite a compliment in my book.

Got the biggest kick out of watching Yadi play 2nd.

688sonarmen 04-27-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1626550)
Totally agree about Tyler ... guess Tony was right.

Glad that Jay is back in the line-up. He kicked off the big inning and the team just seems to play better with him in there.

And, what's the deal with Westbrook? He doesn't even seem like the same pitcher that made us cringe every start last year. The wife says he reminds her of Danny Cox ... quite a compliment in my book.

Got the biggest kick out of watching Yadi play 2nd.

Damn, was Yaddi at 2nd? How did I miss that, I saw him at 1st. After the 8th I was barely watching the game, something about being up 11 runs:D

Guess that 20lbs for Jake is a much bigger deal than he would like to let on. Again tonight he was painting the corners:tu

qwerty1500 04-28-2012 08:42 AM

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Damn, was Yaddi at 2nd? How did I miss that, I saw him at 1st. After the 8th I was barely watching the game, something about being up 11 runs:D

The box score says 1st. Saw him scoop up a grounder and throw the runner out at 1st ... must have been the pitcher covering? The camera showed him with this big grin on his face after the play ... looked like he was having a great time. Guess he must have been on 1st after they moved Carpenter to 3rd ... had the same attention problem you did at that point ... duh ... me bad.

qwerty1500 04-28-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1626581)
Guess that 20lbs for Jake is a much bigger deal than he would like to let on. Again tonight he was painting the corners:tu

Oh forgot ... Everybody is talking about the 20 lbs. The TV guys said that he has stopped tipping pitches like he did last year.

But, I wonder?

Saw the stats on the starting rotation when I was poking around for the box score: ERAs ... 0.99, 1.30, 1.33, 2.49 and 7.32 (guess who - but hopefully improving). The AP story on the game says that the startrers' 12 wins are the most in MLB.

Don't think McGwire gets enough credit for what we are seeing at the plate. I wonder if, maybe, Lilliquist deserves some of the credit for what we are seeing on the mound?

688sonarmen 04-28-2012 01:43 PM

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http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...55068728_n.jpg

Congrats to Yaddi for his 4th gold glove and the 1st platinum glove. He had a hell of a game today going 4 for 4 with a 2 run home run!

688sonarmen 04-28-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1626770)
Oh forgot ... Everybody is talking about the 20 lbs. The TV guys said that he has stopped tipping pitches like he did last year.

But, I wonder?

Saw the stats on the starting rotation when I was poking around for the box score: ERAs ... 0.99, 1.30, 1.33, 2.49 and 7.32 (guess who - but hopefully improving). The AP story on the game says that the startrers' 12 wins are the most in MLB.

Don't think McGwire gets enough credit for what we are seeing at the plate. I wonder if, maybe, Lilliquist deserves some of the credit for what we are seeing on the mound?


:r Yes, I believe tipping pitches may have a little more to do with it. Loshe had a "rough" outing today, but the bats backed him up. If they could only do the same for Waino the ERA would not be so high, kind of reminds me of a starter last year.

qwerty1500 04-29-2012 03:53 PM

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Base running ..... Ugly.

688sonarmen 04-29-2012 04:20 PM

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It was a ballsy move at the end, could have paid off. Could have paid off if someone other than T.G was running.

688sonarmen 04-30-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1496431)
No way St Louis. will be a better team without him. :2

:r

Powers 05-01-2012 08:26 PM

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Figured y'all would appreciate this one:

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...320/IFUUjW.jpg

:r

688sonarmen 05-02-2012 02:35 PM

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Nice one Kenny, I mean Michael:D

In all seriousness it is pretty alarming that he is hitting around .223. I really thought he would be taking off by now.

688sonarmen 05-03-2012 04:35 AM

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Beltran 2 HR's 7 RBI's sick. Pirates pitching was pretty sick as well, depending how you look at it.

qwerty1500 05-04-2012 05:19 AM

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Pirates pitching was pretty sick as well, depending how you look at it.

Funny how things change. 17 strike-outs. That was ridiculous.

688sonarmen 05-04-2012 08:23 AM

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Funny how things change. 17 strike-outs. That was ridiculous.

Last year the trend was piling on runs with 2 outs. This year we seem to have a no sweep clause:D

qwerty1500 05-07-2012 06:28 AM

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Think Wano has it back on track?

688sonarmen 05-07-2012 02:38 PM

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It's looking like it. The velocity is still down but he has found his movement again.

qwerty1500 05-09-2012 10:44 PM

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Looks like we finally swept somebody. Going to the game tomorrow night. Hope they can keep this streak going for at least one more game.

688sonarmen 05-10-2012 04:34 AM

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Looks like we finally swept somebody. Going to the game tomorrow night. Hope they can keep this streak going for at least one more game.

Finally! Looks like Berkman will be back on Friday, wonder what thats going to do with the rotation, Craig is pretty hot right now!

I know I don't have to tell you to have fun there:tu

qwerty1500 05-10-2012 06:34 AM

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Finally! Looks like Berkman will be back on Friday, wonder what thats going to do with the rotation, Craig is pretty hot right now!

I know I don't have to tell you to have fun there:tu

I guess that too many bats in the lineup is a nice problem to have. Suspect that Craig and Beltan will see a little more time on the bench. I'm also hearing that Beltran may see a few games in center field. It's a shame that neither of them can play second base.

Btw, we're going to the game Friday ... duh. Anyway, it will be the first game for us this year. We have some good seats and we're really looking forward to it. We also hear that they are retiring LaRussa's number that night.

Starscream 05-10-2012 05:40 PM

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I guess that too many bats in the lineup is a nice problem to have. Suspect that Craig and Beltan will see a little more time on the bench. I'm also hearing that Beltran may see a few games in center field. It's a shame that neither of them can play second base.

Btw, we're going to the game Friday ... duh. Anyway, it will be the first game for us this year. We have some good seats and we're really looking forward to it. We also hear that they are retiring LaRussa's number that night.

Maybe I'm showing my baseball ignorance, but Beltran in Center field? Isn't he a bit too old to cover that much ground and have that much speed? He's a hitter, but is he that good of a defensive outfielder?

qwerty1500 05-10-2012 06:04 PM

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Maybe I'm showing my baseball ignorance, but Beltran in Center field? Isn't he a bit too old to cover that much ground and have that much speed? He's a hitter, but is he that good of a defensive outfielder?

Not ignorant at all. Center field is Beltran's natural (old) position. He's a decent outfielder with good instincts. But, age isn't as big a problem for him as his knees ... that's why they have been playing him in right field. Defensively, he's no where near as good as Jay but the club wants to keep his bat in the lineup.

688sonarmen 05-10-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500 (Post 1634822)
I guess that too many bats in the lineup is a nice problem to have. Suspect that Craig and Beltan will see a little more time on the bench. I'm also hearing that Beltran may see a few games in center field. It's a shame that neither of them can play second base.

Btw, we're going to the game Friday ... duh. Anyway, it will be the first game for us this year. We have some good seats and we're really looking forward to it. We also hear that they are retiring LaRussa's number that night.

Jon Jay is right at home in center, unless he needs a day off they should keep him there IMHO. Hopefully Molina is better and can play tomorrow, that's one guy the Cards can't go without for long.

I still have hopes of catching a game in August when I head home to Ky. Are there any give aways tomorrow?

kelmac07 05-10-2012 06:45 PM

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I see Beltran is still on fire...wish he would have done half of that in NY.

qwerty1500 05-10-2012 06:49 PM

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Jon Jay is right at home in center, unless he needs a day off they should keep him there IMHO. Hopefully Molina is better and can play tomorrow, that's one guy the Cards can't go without for long.

I still have hopes of catching a game in August when I head home to Ky. Are there any give aways tomorrow?

Haven't heard when Yadi will be back. Whenever it is, it won't be soon enough.

The wife tells me that our game is Tony LaRussa bobble-head night.

688sonarmen 05-10-2012 07:55 PM

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Haven't heard when Yadi will be back. Whenever it is, it won't be soon enough.

The wife tells me that our game is Tony LaRussa bobble-head night.

The scuttlebutt is Friday for Yaddi. A Tony bobble head:r

688sonarmen 05-12-2012 06:59 AM

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Man what a game! How was it? Even though we did not get the W it was fun to watch past the 1st inning. For one I'm sure Mac is happy with Beltrans performance ;). The strike zone was more than a little off for the entire game but both sides suffered from that. I really had game 6 fever when the bases were loaded for the 1st time near the end. But the Braves are a very good team and will make for a great series this weekend!

qwerty1500 05-12-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1636154)
Man what a game! How was it? Even though we did not get the W it was fun to watch past the 1st inning. For one I'm sure Mac is happy with Beltrans performance ;). The strike zone was more than a little off for the entire game but both sides suffered from that. I really had game 6 fever when the bases were loaded for the 1st time near the end. But the Braves are a very good team and will make for a great series this weekend!

The good: Beautiful evening to be at the stadium. Great seats. Enjoyed the LaRussa ceremony. Exciting game. The Cards kept coming back ... the bats are a threat up and down the lineup. Watching Matheny make some good lineup moves with pinch hitters. And, of course, Beltran ... the wife pointed out that he hit more HRs last night than Albert has hit so far this season.

The bad: Hoped to see Berkman ... they say his calf is still sore. Yadi's two passed balls ... maybe he wasn't ready to come back. All those hits into the right-field corner early in the game ... Beltran wasn't even getting close to catching them ... knees? And, leaving the bases loaded over and over in the last couple of innings. Tempted to include the Card's pitching on this list but I won't; the Braves earned this one.

And the ugly: The Tony bobble-head. He wasn't wearing sunglasses. It looked like he was about 6'4" and weighed 140 ... they call it a "figurine." And the absolute worst part ... his head doesn't even "bobble."


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