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poormanswatch forum is a great resource for gens under $1000 and many under $500.

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Moses, a quartz is a quartz is a quartz. Sure, some have better looking finish, at a steep price bump, but no one wears a watch upside down with mechanism exposed. People traditionally paid more for a name since it implied quality, but quartz simply implies accuracy (and a much better one than any mechanical movement), I really don't see how a nicely finished Rolex quartz keeps any better time than a $50 Casio quartz, so why pay more save for "name"?

Let me put it to you another way. Someone wants to gift you a watch, the choice is up to you. One is a Rolex with a quartz movement and the other one is with a mechanical movement (automatic). Which one would YOU pick? :-)
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Bob, there is a bunch of watch sites where you simply select your price range and then are presented with a number of choices. Let me know what you are looking for, I'll be able to better steer you around. I'd say google Orient and Invicta and see what comes up, they are the best deals to be had these days, IMO. Orient for automatic (mechanical) movement, decades of proven ruggedness, and Invicta for rugged quartz models. Orient should run in the $250-300 range and Invicta anywhere from $80 to $400 depending on model, some may even be automatic movement.

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The issue is in house movement vs Asian movement most of the time. There are things which some of the leading watch makers have done in quartz movements that make them run better and last longer. The quality of steel, the finishing of gears, etc, etc.

If I was gifted a Rolex, I wouldn't care what it had in it. If they gave me a choice, I would choose automatic, only because the resale value is higher. However quartz has it's advantages as well. No need to wear it all the time or have a watch winder comes to mind first.

That all said, I would go with either of your recommendations. As well as adding Citizens, Seiko (again the spring drive is phenomenal) and possibly Fortis.

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I see your point, but actually I am a fan of the Oyster Quartz. One of my favorite watches is the Omega X/33 which uses a quartz movement.


If you want the look and prestige at value price, or you want speicalized features, a quartz if a great way to go. Yes, automatics are more of a timepiece than a quartz, but most people wear a watch for its look and percieved value of branding.

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All I can tell you is you should visit 47th Street in NYC sometime and spend some time observing what they wear, these are people who can afford any watch out there. Not to pan Rolex, but along with Cartier and a couple more big names they are considered "jewelry", not watches. What people wear on 47th are AP, G-P, Vacheron Constantin, Patek, Breguet and some others, rarely do you see a Rolex and definitely not a quartz one if it happens. Again, not to pick on Rolex in any way, but its the last "big" name I think about when it comes to buying an expensive watch. Just my opinion, of course, with a couple of exceptions, one being the older Daytona with Primero movement (Zenith).

One advantage that Rolex does offer is the resale value since the general public knows little of the brands I listed above and Rolex does have a great marketing dept. If I had unlimited finds my list would be a short one, certain models from G-P, Ulysse Nardin and Jaeger le Coultre, and a couple from Patek and Lange (German). No Rolex.

As for quartz movement, you actually hit the nail on the head. Japanese are decades into quartz development and refinement and if anything, are heads and shoulders above when it comes to the technology. Don't forget that it is the move to quartz that almost killed Swiss watch industry in recent times. If one is buying a quality quartz piece I'd say the choice is between the Big 3: Seiko, Citizen and Casio and definitely not a Swiss one (although I do buy Invictas for the QPR).

Seiko developed an incredible movement recently, Spring Drive, it combines the best qualities of both worlds: accuracy of quartz and complication/refinement of mechanical. Pricey, but great looking watches with serious accuracy to boot.

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In my opinion, anything with valjoux 7750 movement.



Other good watches for under 600... hmm..

Hamilton is great for value
Orient
Swatch with 7750
Mido

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Just came yesterday!

I love the nine-eater!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture039.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture040-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture041-1.jpg

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So, how is it? Is it a sapphire crystal? How's the quality of the the strap? This model looks the most unique out of Robert's site.

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Sapphire crystal to the best of my knowledge. It sure as heck looks like a sapphire crystal.

The strap is decent quality. nothing to write home about, but still decent quality.

the watch is very unique to me.

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Valjoux 7750 for $500 shipped. Got one for myself.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26399

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that watch can be had on random daily deal sites for 250.00 - 300.00 about once a week.... Not to burst your bubble... but I'm more concerned if you are attempting to profiteer from buying something a month or so back (so people forget) on a daily deal site and then attempting to sell it for a profit.

Regardless, 500.00 for 7750 movement isn't a bad deal.

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Valjoux 7750 if you want a chrono, Eta 2824 or Eta 2836 for any other watch.

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I think the 7750 movement costs about $350 by itself.

One has to remember the watch companies are buying on scale, so they pay much less.

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If you know where to find them for that price, please let me know. I can only find them for $440 at the cheapest.

And while it's a nice movement, there are a number of in house movements that are far better. And be careful, the Asian 7750 looks identical, but costs far less.

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My manager told me about it, he said he was getting it somewhere online. I wouldn't think he would pork me, but you never know I guess. I'll see if he can show me where online.

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The problem with the Asian movements is they are all shipped "dry" no lube to speak of...plus there are several manufactures so matching gear sizes can be a challenge...tolerances vary a bunch.

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i have this orient watch and am happy with it. (paid ~100€)


http://uhr-forum.de/attachments/2835...deep_klein.jpg


I plan on buying a (dress) watch next year in the 300$ range with a black leather strap and roman numbers. i have my right now on the seiko premier line but they are a little out of my price range. need some recommendations.

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I was just about to mention Orient watches. I really like mine. I have the bigger version of the mako.

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That's what are our watchsmith said last year. I assume he buys them from Eta direct? He does work for Swatch Group when they have to fix an old movement that needs hand cut sprokets.

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Way to jump the gun :rolleyes:

Then you said for yourself that 500.00 isn't a bad deal. So....which is it?

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1. how is that jumping the gun?

2. 500.00 isn't bad for 7750... but if 500.00 is an inflated BOTL price, THEN I have a problem.

It seems as if whenever i post you are always there to say something... maybe you just have a crush on me??:rolleyes:

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I'd disagree on that pile of BS too but he probably drives a KIA and thinks it's actually the same thing as a Mercedes because an engine is an engine.

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http://www.julesborel.com/

7750 for $321.95 buy 5 or more and it's $289.76

page 77 of the manual for mechanical movements.

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Thank you for that. That might be a sale price as it seems the whole site is on sale, but still you have to email/call Borel to get the actual price. I have had his listed price vary by $100 when I called.

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New band for the Robert..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...tking/RU47.jpg

Not sold on it yet, just ordered an all black kevlar band...

on the left

http://www.broadarrow.net/elitesamp2.jpg

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I think it would look great on leather. Here is one I did for a guy on his IWC 3717:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...169/iwctt4.jpg


Similar styling to the Robert that you have.

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Just don't agree with what you have to say at times.

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And that makes you want to attempt to hunt me down on other forums?

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Never hunted you down. You just happened to be a member of a forum that I was on as well :tu

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You and a whole lot of other people... :r :r :r

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so I'm not allowed to look at your profile at another forum that I'm a member of as well? Any further comments can be taken to PM if you so feel the need.

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^^^ My thoughts exactly in regards to your first post above on this page...

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Anyone wanna bet a 5er on how long this thread will stay open? I say it's locked by 2:30.

I've learned all I can possibly learn anyway and never knew a quartz is a quartz and all watched are basically the same if they have a quartz.

RJT, if you're reading this, I want my money back for the Rolex!!!!!!

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You are right, im done arguing, more watches!!!

wore this today!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/triumph.jpg

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Would that be 2:30 on a quartz or on an automatic? :D

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Finally tracked down my manager before the holidays its $350 not $500, he said he wasn't sure what the price was and thought it would be around $500. I didn't give him the money for it. I'm just ordering it myself. www.beyondtherack.com. I signed up, it's free, and the sale ends tomorrow at Noon.

Here's the link to the exact watch. http://www.beyondtherack.com/event/sku/667/BUL26C04

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Never seen a watch without an hour hand before :r

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Now that's what i call "perfect timing"!!!

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Heck, even if you claimed February 3rd, I'd take that bet.

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Got my Maratac Elite Kevlar band (20.00 bucks, wow), i personally love the look of it, its exactly what i was going for.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture478.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture483.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture485.jpg

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And i also picked up this little guy, 44mm invicta. Will probably sell it though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture486.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture488.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture490.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ftking/IV1.jpg

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Seems like a good place to post this... I've got the bug for a celestial calendar watch. Something with a true celestial complication, i.e. moving Milky Way. I'm a big fan of Patek, but this one is a little bit out of my price range. Looking for something similar, but would like to save a few hundred thousand.:D

Has anyone come across any other brands making this complication?

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...ref-5106-w.jpg

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Moonphase and tide counter are about the best you'll do without getting too expensive.

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For a little over 300 bucks, I bought myself a Mido fun watch.

http://www.soochx.org/images/mido1.jpg

http://www.soochx.org/images/mido2.jpg

Larry

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Larry- Good for you, that's a nice watch! Mido is for someone who really appreciates watch making over fancy ads and prestige. That's a good watch for $300. I love their dive watches and have been close to buying one several times.

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Got this for Christmas from my kids :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...byissa/new.jpg

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Wife got me one of these for Christmas. Love it.

http://www.gemnation.com/images/watc...010.BA0818.jpg

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orange monster FTW, get SS band to set it off!!!

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trying to figure which bracelet to go with...