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IBQTEE1 04-24-2017 10:25 AM

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This is so cool to read. Not a big honey fan but it is an amazing process.

massphatness 04-24-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 2122267)
What happens to the queen if you didn't find her? Would she not find her way back into the hive?

Kinda' unknown -- she wasn't buzzing around. She was literally walking across the ground in front of the hive. She can fly, so maybe she would have just flown back in the hive.

Under different circumstances, it the hive was more established, it wouldn't be a big deal. Queens die; life happens. When she goes, the worker bees simply create a new queen. But they need an egg that the previous queen laid, and the egg has to be a certain age. With my hive, I don't know if there would have been proper eggs from which to choose.

All eggs start with the potential to be queens:

* If the queen doesn't fertilize an egg, it will develop into a drone (male) bee. All queens are female.

* In the beginning all eggs are fed this goop called royal jelly -- it's produced by the bees from special glands in their head. After 3 days, the workers switch to feeding the eggs a honey mixture EXCEPT if they're making a queen. Fertilized eggs destined for the throne are fed ONLY royal jelly. Eggs weened off the royal jelly develop into regular female worker bees.

pnoon 04-24-2017 12:14 PM

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Vin said "royal jelly"

:r

longknocker 04-30-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 2122296)
Vin said "royal jelly"

:r

Interesting Article About "Royal Jelly".
https://www.wired.com/2015/09/royal-...bee-queen-bee/

Don Fernando 04-30-2017 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2121758)
ARE THOSE ****ING BEES???

HOLY ****!!!

I'm a little jittery, please excuse my outburst.

Bees, Gurkhas, is there anything you're not afraid of??

sigsauer 04-30-2017 08:26 AM

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any pics?

massphatness 04-30-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2122709)
Interesting Article About "Royal Jelly".
https://www.wired.com/2015/09/royal-...bee-queen-bee/

Cool article - thanks for the info

More pics early next week. I have to check the feeder frame and possibly remove it now that flowers have started to bloom. Also need to check on how much comb has been built out in the frames. That will determine if I need to add another box.
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icehog3 05-01-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 2122711)
Bees, Gurkhas, is there anything you're not afraid of??

The Dutch? :D

massphatness 05-01-2017 04:41 PM

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Opened up the hive today to check on two key things:

#1 - Did the girls have enough sugar syrup in the feeder frame?

#2 - How much progress had they made on building out frames of honey comb?

Flowers are just starting to bloom in this area, and while I "think" there's enough natural nectar and pollen to be had, the feeder frame was just about dry. We refilled it just to be sure the bees had an ample supply of carbs. Pollen patty is getting worked through as well. My thinking is we can eliminate both in the next week to ten days.

Cool to see how much progress they're making on drawing out frames of comb. Of the 9 frames that are in the hive currently, it looks like they've made significant progress on filling the front & back of about 3.5 of them. The number would be higher if they had been working on frames instead of free-form building the comb in the space where the queen cage had previously been. But from what I can see, they are right on schedule.

I had posted pics of bee eggs previously. As the days have gone by, those eggs are now further developing in the larval stage. You can see bee larva in the comb in this photo. It's the curled up grub-like white mass at the bottom of the comb. The different size larva, I assume, indicates different ages with the larger larva having developed from eggs laid earlier in the process than the smaller ones. Educated guess on that.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2852/3...fa9feb05e4.jpg

Another interesting thing in the photo above is the relative size of a drone (male) bee to his chiquita worker bee counterparts. The drone is the big, burly fellow in the top quarter of the photo with the massive girth and huge eyes.

At some point in the larval stage -- around day 7 or 8 after being laid as an egg -- the bees will ensconce or "cap" the comb. It's kinda' like a caterpillar going into it's cocoon. The rest of the development process takes place over the next two weeks within the capped comb where the larva will pupate and metamorphosize into an adult bee.

You can see the capped comb in this photo.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2941/3...3c92a4bed6.jpg

The capping is made of the same bees wax as the comb itself, and while it appears very light & yellowish here, as the queen re-uses the comb for subsequent bees it will darken over time until it becomes almost black.

Super happy to see the bees are raising a lot of new siblings. The population of the hive has been slowly decreasing since the bees arrived. That's because it takes about three weeks for a new bee to form, but it looks like we're maybe 10-12 days from reversing that as new bees should start emerging around then. Really hoping I can grab some video of a bee eating it's way out of its cell.

And while this has been going on, the bees have also been making honey. They have to -- it's what they eat. The process is pretty complex and involves mixing nectar and pollen and water in the right amounts, then fanning it with their wings until it achieves a ratio of about 80% sugar and 18% water. Remaining 2% is made up of minerals, proteins, and some bee parts. :)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/3...de26a57884.jpg

The honey is capped just like the brood is capped. Capping the honey allows the bees to safely store it until they need it for food down the line.

massphatness 05-01-2017 04:58 PM

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You'll recall I panicked not being able to locate the queen bee during my initial hive inspection. No such problem today! Ms. Thing was right where she should be: in the middle of the hive at the center of activity.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4182/3...c94676f5_z.jpg

The apiary that sold me the bees marks their queens with a colored dot. The marking helps me to more easily pick out the queen in a vibrating mass of bees on a frame, but also it references her year of birth. I just have the one hive, but if I had several, I'd want to keep track of the age of my queen because as they get older, they begin to slow down the rate of egg laying, and it might be time to introduce a new queen to that colony. The colored dot system is supposed to be consistent among apiaries, so all yellow dot queens should be from 2017. Queens hatched in 2018 will be coded with a red dot. 2019 will be green.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4189/3...bece7be6_z.jpg

pnoon 05-01-2017 05:21 PM

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So cool.

G G 05-01-2017 05:27 PM

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:tu

markem 05-01-2017 05:27 PM

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Very cool, Vin.

G G 05-01-2017 05:28 PM

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We have bees that are placed all over the woods here by beekeepers. A friend of mine had his own a few years ago, not sure if he still has them or not.

longknocker 05-01-2017 05:34 PM

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Awesome!:D:tu

Greentud 05-01-2017 06:53 PM

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Wicked pissa stuff.

markem 05-01-2017 07:04 PM

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massphatness 05-01-2017 08:20 PM

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Truth
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BigAsh 05-02-2017 07:07 AM

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Damn son, you're "all in" on this...Nice...

Don Fernando 05-02-2017 07:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2122786)
The Dutch? :D

we are a pretty peaceful people, so there is no need to be.


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