Re: Tom Brady
 

I've read the report and they were low. One of the problems is that the pressures measured before the game weren't recorded. Furthermore, the two gauges gave different readings as one had a bent needle. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but the sloppy evidence and low standard of proof remain inconclusive. The report in PDF is below:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.b2w&cad=rja

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What a bag job..this was a set up and the Colts were in on it.That alone violates NFL rules.

Tom did not have to give up his cell phone all the phones that were given up belonged to the Patriots..so if Tom text them it would be on the company phones.

They got nothing, Krafty Bob is pissed and heads will roll!!!

This is not over by a longshot.

Re: Tom Brady
 

A murderer, a cheater and a liar show up at a bar.
One bartender looks at the other and says "the Patriots are in town".

Re: Tom Brady
 

While I understand the point you are trying to make, Darren, I would hardly equate people on death row with their life in the balance to an NFL quarterback who makes 20 mil a year bring suspended for 4 games. That is what I meant by "real" issues.

And as has been pointed out for others, Brady isn't subject to any criminal penalties for the alleged indiscretion, so the burden of prove would be preponderance of the evidence, rather than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" of said murder suspects.

No real horse in this race, just mildly amused how wound up people on both sides get about a sports issue like this. Reminds me of the Cubs-White Sox people.

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My point above is that even high standards of proof fail. The standard of proof as displayed in the report doesn't rise above playground justice as it was based solely on the investigation, not a tribunal of any sort where both sides get to present evidence to an impartial adjudicator. It would be like the police deciding the guilt and punishment of whom they arrest. In this case the investigator, judge and jury were invested in a single entity. I think that's spooky on any level. He won't get paid during the suspension so four games adds up to 5 million dollars. The Constitution says:... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law... While it may not be a criminal penalty, It sure looks like one. Hell, the IRS has a higher standard.

Re: Tom Brady
 

Hope he can still live on that 15 million he has left. :)

We just have different thoughts on how important this is in the grand scheme of things, but I don't begrudge you your feelings, Darren. If they suspended Jonathan Toews for scuffing pucks, I'd probably have an aneurism. :r

Re: Tom Brady
 

How about the 50+ un-investigated abuse charges against NFL players, I think I've heard enough about Tom's balls.

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Re: Tom Brady
 

now THAT'S funny!!!!:r

Re: Tom Brady
 

Hey guys, you all need to clam down!

What difference does it now make! That's a quote.

It is what it is now and then what it will be, after the appeals are heard!

Re: Tom Brady
 

Hey everybody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

Re: Tom Brady
 

Local DJ said if they really wanted to punish people they would force Brady to play for Cleveland and Bill should have to coach the Jags. :lr

Re: Tom Brady
 

Screw that. Send Bill back to Cleveland with him. :r

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I think just for Darren et. al, the investigators should be granted subpoena power so they can get Tom's phone records, get all his texts related to this over the last 24 months. Put Tom, the EQM, the other cat & a few others in front of a grand jury and see how it shakes out.

I'm sure that Tom, his agent, the Pats ect. all would prefer the truth come out and clear Tom & the franchises name. Sure we'd see some "proof" then...unless this is a witch hunt...

Re: Tom Brady
 

You are right, except I think he may have used a private server and everything has been destroyed.
I may have facts confused.

Re: Tom Brady
 

Michael Vick, branching out.

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Brady is going to war..this guy kicks the NFL's ass!! :sl
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-pat...for-legal-team

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Tom Brady could do that better even with deflated breasts.

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Funny, I don't recall commenting one way or the other on this, "issue" but merely your overreaction to it.

Re: Tom Brady
 

http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploa...the-Bear21.jpg

(Yes, sadly enough I vaguely remember watching this show as a young kid. Don't judge me!)

Re: Tom Brady
 

Okay...Where was your beef with all this during Bountygate?