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A C&R license is different from a standard FFL. The C&R allows collecting of firearms more than fifty years old, and isn't geared toward public sales.

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I have heard there is also a home FFL as well that is geared towards the more modern collector that may do some trading but does not have a store front. I am currently trying to get all the details about this one. If its real I will post details here.

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Thanks for the info on the home FFL and the C&R. I never knew of that. Steve

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I have never heard of a "home ffl" I have the type 3 ffl and work part time for a type a 7


Usage
Type 1 Title 1 dealer or gunsmith other than destructive devices. Can also deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 3 tax stamp.
Type 2 Title 1 dealer doing business as a pawnbroker.
Type 3 Licensed collector of Curio & Relic (C&R) firearms.
Type 6 Licensed manufacturer of ammunition and reloading components other than ammunition for destructive devices and armor piercing ammunition.
Must also register with the Department Of State under the ITAR Current registration costs start at $2,250 per year.[1]
Type 7 Title 1 manufacturer of firearms and ammunition, who may also act as dealer; may not manufacture or deal in destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, or armor piercing ammunition. Must also register with the Department Of State under the ITAR Current registration costs start at $2,250 per year. Can also manufacture & deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 2 tax stamp.
Type 8 Importer of Title 1 firearms and ammunition. Must also register with the Department Of State under the ITAR Current registration costs start at $2,250 per year Can also import Title II NFA firearms with class 1 tax stamp.
Type 9 Dealer in firearms, including destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, and armor piercing ammunition. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To deal/broker any DD with an explosives content (e.g. flash-bangs) requires an additional Federal Explosives License[2] as a Dealer of High Explosives.

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Bill, a C&R doesn't have to be 50 years old, I have many many 90's weapons that are C&R


-Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;

-Be certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest;

-Derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

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Yeh I'm just going for my C&R FFL. There are many people who have run their 01 FFL out of their home. It's difficult in some places though due to zoning restrictions. Just gonna get my 03 FFL so I can order some C&R stuff online without having to deal with a transfer at an 01 FFL. I'm wanting an m48 mauser, Swiss K11 or K31, Tokarev pistol, maybe a Garand when I have the money. But for it only costing $30, I figure why not; it costs almost that much for one transfer.

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Maybe it is a type 1. I will have to find the website and see what it said again. I just remember it saying that it was easy to get your FFL with this one and it could be from home, no need for a store front.

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that's a regular 01 ffl. same as a store front ffl. same ffl. it's easy to get if you make sure you get the zoning approved by the zoning board

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While I'm familiar with the wording, I've never personally known anyone who was able to purchase anything other than older milsurp weapons with a C&R license. Now you have me curious. What recently manufactured weapons from the nineties fall under C&R regulations that you've been able to purchase? I may have to reconsider picking up a type 03.

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CZ-82
P64
Polish P82 (to be added soon)

As with any imports this just a snap shot of right now, they come and go.

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Plus facilities & posted store hours etc etc. & retail store...

I know here is Pa in the gun show capital of the world ha-ha; you used to be able to apply for a 01 for gun show sales only. Pretty sure these are hard to get if not impossible anymore.

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No store front needed. How could online sites sell online only?

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My father in law has this type, He cannot have a actual commercial building/"store front". He sells from his home and online only. I don't know the nomenclature of his FFL, If it's real important I could ask.

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Doesn't matter to me as I'm only going to get the 03 C&R FFL.

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Here are a few things I just deciphered from BATFE regarding home FFL licensing. in order to have a class 01 FFL you need to show store hours and have a store front or if you want to be seen by appointment only then you need to acquire gunsmith certification or if I understand this right you need to have your firearms instructor certification and you can operate your home as a warehouse. I started my search here http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/ and keep in mind all of these are captioned with you must comply with state zoning and licensing laws as well as the federal laws.

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Anyone have experience with the 9mm Springfield XDm? Pros/cons?

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Yea, which one the 4.5 or 3.8? What are you intending do with it carry and target shooting.

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3.8". Will be used for the range and home

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Hello fellow shooters. Happy to say that I qualified as an Expert in the rifle portion of the USCG Marksman Test today.
http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/...2/PC031482.jpg
Our service weapon is the M16, where we are evaluated at three positions (prone, sitting, standing) at slow fire and rapid fire. The three qualifications you can receive are Basic (140/200), Sharpshooter (160/200), or Expert (175/200). I scored 178 :)

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That's awesome Rob

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Congrats!
More bling for your rack!

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Now I can at least call it a rack...it was just one lonely National Defense Medal :r

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:tu great job Rob.

Well I think a few more days of wiping down the rifle stock with BLO and then a couple days of drying and she will be done. Pictures to come when it's all back together.

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Nice, Great job on the expert medal

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I have the XDm 4.5 in .45 ACP. Only drawback I Have had so far after about 200 rounds was occasionally the larger JHP 220 gr. didnt want to feed. Took it to my local gunsmith and the next day it worked great. He just polished the feeder ramp. 500 rounds later and no issues at all. I did go back to the 180 gr gold dots for defense carry. I can get almost 1150 fps if I home load without risking the frame from too much pressure.

To be honest I expected to be a little disappointed going from a Sig 256 in .357sig to the XD in .45 ACP but with the exception of the greater recoil both due to caliber and lighter frame it has performed very well.

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I have this done on all my guns.

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Seems like a toss up between the Glock 19 and XDM 3.8. I'll have to find a local dealer with the XDM in stock and see how it feels.

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I own both, my G19 is my favorite.

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Me, as well. I had a really inconstant feed problem on my daily carry (XD .45 ACP) until I did a little polishing on the feed ramp.

Since then I've paid attention to that on all my new guns when I get them. It really has made a big difference on my .22LRs, as I think that soft lead tends to catch burrs and rough spots more than jacketed rounds would.

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Fear not, Rob. In a couple years you'll be cursing every time you have some event or inspection and you have to go check DA just to make sure your rack's up to date. It'll seem like it happens all at once.

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Hi gang!

If anyone is interested in the book "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson [Hardcover]" (c) 2001, I just listed one on Amazon in very good condition for $16 (plus shipping). Here is the link to the used listing page:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...condition=used

I'm selling for the group called "Friends of the Tigard Library". The book is very nearly in new condition.

I can't sell it to you directly, you have to go to Amazon if you want it.

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No, but i'm probably the biggest XDM.40 fanboy on this site. Nothing but good things to say.

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You can mark me as one of the biggest fans of the XD in .45

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Just got a call from the gun shop and my XD9 came in today. Can't pick it up until next Friday arggg (darn CA 10 day waiting period). Already ordered a safe, Talon grips, and 10 boxes of Federal range ammo.

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Does the waiting period start when you ordered it or when it comes in?

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Cheaper Than Dirt has XDM mags for $5 less than the Springfield site.

Happy Birthday to me!!!

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Victory for the NRA and Illinois brothers:tu
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,7034171.story

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Saw that today too. That's awesome

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Unfortunately it starts when the gun comes in

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That's what I figured. It would make too much sense that you have already waited several days/weeks for the thing to get to the shop. Gotta love politics/bureaucracy

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Steve, at least in fl it's only 3 days on handguns without a permit

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The worst part is that they use the same verification system the states that have instant verification use. They dont learn anything more in those 10 extra days.

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:lr :lr :lr

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almost got a headache from reading that article... if I had to read one more claim of for the "for the public safety" without a single shred of evidence to back it up.... even the court judges said the burden of proof wasn't met!

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True dat!

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When I bought my first gun, the HSC was good for life and it was a 15 day waiting period.

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Old man :p

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I guess it can be good living in the sticks here in Indiana. No waiting period, lifetime concealed carry permit, shooting range less than 2 miles from the house and state hunting property 4 miles the other direction. Now if I just had a log home I would be in heaven.

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Not a first, but my most recent find...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...n%20Marlin.jpg

Marlin Zane Grey Century Anniversay Edition, an early Fathers Day present from my wife...bummer I don't get it until Fathers Day though.

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Still a really sweet looking rifle...