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I think Bama will win, but I only bet on a sure thing and NOTHING is for sure in the SEC.
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Keep scratching Les, you'll find your brain in there somewhere.......
How in the world does your kick team NOT see that they need to call off the fake? It's not like you have all the wrong personnel in there to kick the ball. Wasted 3 points. |
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Nonetheless, this Bama-LSU game is highly entertaining. Where has this Mettenberger been all season? |
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Go LSU! Making this a fun game to watch!
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Wow. Nice job LSU
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My God, what a game... Hard fought, well won. Nothing but respect for LSU, possibly with the exception of Les Miles who needs to be banned from calling special teams plays, he gave that game away.
Not that Alabama was any better, "Hmm third down, lets blitz with everyone and leave a man wide open downfield.". At one point I was yelling at my television "STOP BLITZING ON THIRD DOWN!". Every damn time, 20 yards, 30 yards, it was ridiculous. LSU was dominating us on both sides of the ball for most of the game, thank goodness for big plays. That said, ROLL TIDE! |
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Michael, I respect you and all, but where do you get this logic that a person who does not like to read someone
else's posts can't use the ignore button? The people in this thread that I ignore have been ignored since last year. Maybe its not cool to keep mentioning it, sure, but that's like saying 'using the red triangle to report a post is snitching.' Congrats to bama, Les Miles obviously thought the only way to win was to do the unexpected. (4 times):rolleyes: Had he been a little more confident in his team, it looks like he could have mopped the floor with the tide. Shame. But no changing the final score. Great effort LSU. No stopping the tide now. |
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Michael, don't sweat it, bro. I too had Brad on ignore last year. Took him off 6 months ago, but I just don't respond to any of the "baiting" stuff Brad post. That's the easiest way. The other person Brad has on ignore is NinjaVanish, which is a good thing for Brad, because Jeremy has a much better grasp on football than Brad does. So it's easier to ignore Jeremy than accept the imbalance in knowledge. Me, on the otherhand...... I'm really am just a redneck with limited knowledge, and hardly worth the effort of notice! And that really, really doesn't bother me..... Which I find tends to just make some people more upset!!! Back to the game..... I give this loss squarely to Les Miles. But really, it was more down to luck. If any one of his gambles had paid off, LSU would have won. The team itself played probably their best game of the season. The LSU offense well outplayed the Bama offense. |
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However, you now owe the troops a fiver!!:D |
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Beautiful. That's what Bama needed. They needed to know that they aren't invincible. I can't stamp my ticket to Miami quite yet but that makes me feel a looooooooot better.
ROLL TIDE!!! |
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Tom, if you will send me you addy, I'd like to send you a few sticks for playing.
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Well Said, Cliff!:D:banger:tu If The MadHatter Had Played Conservatively, They Would Have Won. Roll, Tide!:tu
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BTW, where did you and K watch the game last night? Fox and Hound? Or was the BBQ last night? |
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As far as being ignored goes, I guess I know who my next target is... |
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I freely admit I have at times baited people here in a passive-aggressive manner.
I do try to never strike first. If anyone here is currently on my ignore list, it is because you do the exact same thing but can't admit it here where people can read it. In 2010 and 2011, I allowed myself to be entangled in arguments where the other party used the same tactics I was using. Sort of an 'insult JUST to the edge of being moderated' and then back off with the football player move of throwing their hands up in the air in a 'it wasn't me' move. Today I ignore people who behave in that manner. A person cannot win, its quicksand. So if I am ever mis-characterized as ignoring for one reason or another, you can read right here why I do it. If someone ever tries to tell you that I ignore them and comes up with the reasons that I do it, I hope people will refer to this and see that I laid it out freely on the table. I got PMs quoting some things that were said from last night and today. I felt it was right to clear the air. |
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Let's go back to talking about football, I for one don't care if anyone is ignoring anyone else or why.
Alabama looked terrible this week, honestly their defense was brutalized, it had a lot to do with the coaches refusing to admit LSU had a good quarterback (For one game at least.) and was passing quick enough to avoid the pass rush. Hopefully it won't take 200 yards for them to notice the blitz isn't working next time. LSU looked good, really good, just not quite good enough. They are going to obliterate Mississippi State. A&M looked good too, getting through them is going to be hard, thankfully LSU smacked Bama around so they are unlikely to go in overconfident. I think Bama wins next week, not as soundly as against Miss St., but cleaner than the LSU game. Wtf has happened to Florida? They fell apart vs Georgia and nearly lost to Mizzou? They looked like the best in the SEC a couple weeks ago... Georgia has come alive, Bama will be playing them for the SEC championship unless both teams lose to Auburn, I find that unlikely. Georgia hasn't looked particularly good this year when facing quality opponents, if they play Bama they'd better do more than they did against Florida and USC. Then again Bama wasn't exactly impressive last night, could go either way. Auburn beat somebody, I forget who, yay for Auburn I guess. |
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I will get some cigars out to the Troop supporters this week, Cliff, that was fun. Congrats to 'bama for staying undefeated. :tu
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If not for that last offensive drive we would have lost, if Les Miles hadn't screwed up four plays we would have lost. We came within a hair of sending LSU to the SEC championship again and possibly excluding the SEC from the NC altogether. I don't think it would have happened if we had played a little more coverage, and a little less blitz, especially on 3rd down. I also think we gave it to AJ a bit too much, he was obviously rattled and having an off night, thank god for that last drive, but the rest of the second half was awful. I'm no expert though and it's easy to say that after the fact. |
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people have said that bama blitzed too much, which is true. but bama got the scare of their season much more because LSU ran the ball down their throats. LSU gashed bama whether they blitzed or not. Mettenberger did get the ball out quick, but he also displayed a TON of guts, never once seeming to be throwing off of his back foot. He looked into the teeth of the rush and threw the ball pretty effectively. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. AMAZING CALM and AMAZING PERFROMANCE by that kid. LSU lost because their coaching staff did not show enough faith in the game plan, just doing what they needed to do. Stupid gadgets....it was almost as if Tracy Wolfson goaded him into going back to that looney bin crap from 2-3 years ago. How utterly embarrassing for Les. The prevent defense on the last drive cost them the game. That plus mcCarron obviously said in the huddle, YOU WILL PROTECT, and for as long as you have to, you bastards. LSU was desperately trying to claw their way to AJ, and he never got a scratch on that last drive. LSU lost because of coaching decisions, and bama almost lost because of them. If you had just kept running the ball down our throats, WE would have been the team that got gashed. We couldn't tackle all night. And then suddenly, like they were throwing the game for a gambling debt, bama let off the gas. They went away from what was working. Sure, halftime adjustments made a big difference, but SO MANY 3 and outs? It was starting to embarass ME. It was something more, though. I DO believe that Saban and Miles are very similar. Sometimes in big games they are too scared of some boogeyman in their minds to just coach. The measure of the best, in the end though, is that Saban snaps out of it and coaches the end of the game. Les just looks shell-shocked. If he wins a close one in the end, its because his players bail him out. If they lose, its because they COULDN'T. One thing you can't do though is dwell on what might have been. That's why they play. If LSU had simply played the last drive the way they played the whole game, you guys would be eating your hats today....No way you win it. But you did. I was kind of shocked when Vern said "there is no reason to think bama can pull it out on this last drive, if the previous 55 minutes are any indicator". That's when I knew we were doomed. |
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Look, for anyone that PM'd Brad, let it go. He is who he is, I'm who I am, no rules here (or in life) say we have to be friends! It doesn't bother me, it appears it doesn't bother him. So it shouldn't bother anyone else. That being said, let's get back to SEC football My side thought from the game.... I'm glad I'm not an LSU fan who was in Death Valley last night. I think the highs, lows and then the really highs, followed by a last minute crushing blow would have been on the rim of personal insanity. I know that for sure, because I have gone thru it with Bama with several coaches in a row, not too long ago!!! I don't think this means LSU is a worse team. I think they are the second best team in the country right now. I sincerely think LSU would mop the field with Kansas or Notre Dame if they played. Bama'QB had a bad half, LSU,s QB had a bad half. When both have a good total game, I doubt either could be beat. And playing each other with 100% QB preformance all game.... Just what we saw last night. The team with the final drive wins. We've all seen those games. |
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haha, LSU's QB didn't have a bad half. LSU's QB had a breakout game, maybe some bad THROWS while the jitters
were flowing, but he did fine most of the night and all with bama blitzers RIGHT in his grill. The Tigers out-played bama in front of the whole SEC that cared to watch...bama won the game because they finally pulled their heads out of their butts and because Saban is a great coach and McCarron has tremendous character. Worthy of the Heisman, I doubt it. But he never got down and he led his team to victory. If he wins two BCS NCs, he will probably have the inside track, but I am not so sure about his chances in REALITY. LSU's backs looked like the bulls at Pamploma all night. Couldn't be prouder of the whole team. I think you are right about having the ball last, but it was more than that. I said it before, but an offensive line that looked like they were beaten most of the night REALLY came through when it counted. They are to be congratulated, THEY won that game for the tide. |
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It's all for naught as Oregon is gonna roll whoever they play :tu
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Haha, I'll tell you one more thing. i had to laugh last night when Verne Lundquist said "Alabama is now in field
goal range, it would be a 48 yarder if they kicked it right now". I was thinking, DOES ANYONE think that Nick Saban is playing for 3 points? REALLY VERNE?? How deluded. That's why I just let all the air out of myself and sat and watched in total resignation. I knew that the tide was going for the win or nothing. After the first completion of the drive I knew. I will leave it to the people who like bama to talk up the Oregon matchup, but I'll say it like I say it every year. It ALWAYS looks good on paper. Ask Ohio State. |
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It was Oklahoma right? No they went twice and got killed both times. Maybe it was Ohio State, oh yeah killed twice too. Hmm, I remember Bama walking all over Texas, so not them. Oh yeah it was Oregon, no wait Auburn beat them two years ago. Oh yeah it was last year an SEC team lost, wait that was to another SEC team. I'm sure Oregon is better than all those other teams though, it's the shiny outfits that give them the power. :rolleyes: |
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If it ends up Alabama and Oregon-------Bama wins by at least 4TDs.
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It's sad really, I think there should be more play between conferences in the top 25. As it is everyone pads their schedule and their only tough games are in-conference, that leads to a lot of skill disparity between conferences.
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Looks like my UK football team finally dumped the coach. Time for the next one to step up, get paid, and get fired :r
It actually makes me sad. Is a 7 win season consistently too much to ask for? |
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"Lt Winters.....permission to speak sir... Permission granted... Well sir, why does Lt. Sobel hate us sir? Lt. Sobel doesn't HATE easy company Private Randellman....he just hates YOU. Thank you SIR" |
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Anyway, great game. One that we should have lost, but somehow didn't. One that when Yeldon lost the fumble and LSU drove it down our throats to score, I said we're gonna lose this game. Don't forget LSU had an extra week to prepare and rest. I know we could use some rest about now. We're all beat up. This was also the first game, other than WKU, that we were mostly in our "base defense" for the whole game all year. Now we'll have to go back to being a little more "unconventional." aTm will present challenges, but I think you'll see us play them about like LSU played them. Should be a similar time game. At least I hope. Carry on... |
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There is nothing better in the world for a sports fan IMO than high stakes SEC football :tu :tu
First we were treated w/the drama of Florida-Georgia last week and now the instant classic of 'Bama-LSU As a Gator fan, I am thankful that Metteberger did not play that way in the Swamp earlier in the season but, if you can't play your best ball in your home stadium at night after a week of preparation against your arch rival than LSU should have run him out on a rail anyhow. Nonethe-Les, Miles was definitely tryin' to get too cute. In an SEC battle you take the 3 points! Herbstreit tweeted after the game that he though it ended in reverse of last years regular season battle in Tuscaloosa - Bama played better all game but LSU snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. Its the football circle of life I guess Thinking in the interest of Florida, Bama's victory was in our favor due to the possibility of this scenario - Gators beat FSU in Talla-nasty (*fingers crossed*), Georgia gets it dry at an angle from Bama in Atlanta (can't wait to see it) which means Florida is the only 1 loss SEC team and we go to the BCS Sugar Bowl :D |
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Not saying its inevitable Bama will win, assuming they get by Georgia (but come on, :r), but when the non-SEC team in the BCS game actually has a DEFENSE, then I'll be concerned |
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off of the Champ. game where you guys had a month of rest?? Duh, I guess I can look it up on the webster... Yep, you guys were off for a week last time. All homerism aside, this was a superb football game. Last year I liked it because we won, but was not a fan of the game from almost any other standpoint. Sat nite the game was constantly up for grabs, nearly from the opening kick. I know fans of young-man football could care less, but wow, what a football game. If I wasn't so mad at Les Miles, I could enjoy it more, but I enjoyed so many aspects of the game. One was the courtesy and sportsmanship of the tide. The Tide D could have re-arranged Mettenberger's DNA on all those pass attempts where he hung in the pocket, but they gave him the bennie of the doubt that he WAS going to throw and not pump and they never killed him once that I recall. They simply tackled him and everyone lived to play another down. I DID NOT like the camera shot they got on number 6, giving 'kissy goodbye' lips to the LSU fans in the stands after the big closing drive. I thought that was classless. but there are SO many of those moments in every game, only a fraction get on camera. Like that moron Mettenberger playing the 'cell phone-call me' move as if he had suddenly re-written the record books of college football by scoring a TD. But of course its ALL just kids being kids. What ya gonna do. Obviously I hope A&M beats the Tide, but you made your path to the big game clear, and I see no way to stop the ball rolling downhill. Should be another egg for the elephants, hope they glue this one down. |
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are laid out writhing on the turf holding whichever body part is changed forever, the offense is bound to slow WAY down. Not that we intend to hurt anyone, but 'big meets little' at 45 mph USUALLY winds up that way. It's like Indiana Jones, that dude is flipping that scimitar back and forth, whirling and twirling it in a flashy show, and Indy just pulls out a revolver and shoots him dead. THAT'S what I think of every new years |
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The ONLY reason I wanted Bama to lose REALLY, was the fact that all the power teams would have one loss. No one would be shocked to know I like a lil Chaos. |
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to scheduling light. I know most of this is done many years in advance, so I doubt it was an effort to finally beat bama, lol, but I was saddened to see it. I liked the swagger you can lay claim to when you take a chance and schedule tough NCOs. Hopefully they will go back to that. If you can't hang, at least you tried....USM was like that historically. |
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