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Wow, didn't see this thread taking this turn. Starz as well as myself have seen A LOT of BOTLs reporting their credit cards were compromised soon after making a purchase through Shnoop and is trying to get to the bottom of it. Sure there isn't much we can do as the credit card co's do a great job of making things right in today's world and we don't have any authority, but we sure as heck can contact all co's involved to see what, if anything, can be done to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I think most BOTLs understand credit cards can be compromised on any site as many of us buy online, but there are way too many BOTLs reporting fraud charges after buying from Shnoop that it would be crazy not to think there is a connection. Of course this may not be any fault of Shnoop, but it's connected somehow.

FYI... I emailed Shnoop again this evening with a couple other quotes of people who had fraud charges and this was their response:

Thank you for following up on this with us. We take all matters relating to privacy issues seriously and we certainly take heart with our customers who experienced fraudulent charges on their credit cards, as we understand that it can be an extremely frustrating experience. Shnoop.com does not store, access or retain any of our customer's credit card information. At this time, we are being advised by McAfee, which performs a daily security sweep on the site to determine if there are any vulnerabilities with the user pages, and that our site is Hacker Safe (https://www.mcafeesecure.com/RatingV...www.shnoop.com). This, along with the requisite SSL encryption, are requirements that "PooPal" has for merchants to utilize their secure payment platform that we employ on our site. Nonetheless, we are taking additional precautionary measures by having a 3rd party data protection firm do a complete security audit on the server, to ensure that our server was always completely secure. We strongly urge and advise anyone who suspects that their credit card information has been compromised, to immediately contact their card issuing bank, which investigates such matters. Please don't hesitate to email us back if you have any further questions.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

I love how these people deny all possibilities that this could have happened in relation to our orders with them, when it is obvious what the truth is. Either they have their heads buried in the sand, or figure as long as they don't admit to anything, we will never be sure. Yeah, right.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Yeah, just trying to cover their asses legally...

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Deny, deny, demand proof.....The Rule of D's. :r

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I don't think you'll find too many, if any, people who will argue that it isn't somehow related to the purchases made that day from shnoop, the disconnect seems to be coming over the assertion that it was at shnoop where it occurred, possibly intentionally.

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Not just BOTLs getting screwed:

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...d.php?p=361842

And no I'm not a member there... :)

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That's a little spooky. I suppose from their angle it's the only way they can go if they have no idea what happened. Isn't there law that if a credit card or personal information databank is hacked or otherwise compromised that the users have to be notified?
I supoose they're worried if they have to fess up and tell people it'll hurt business?

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Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

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:r

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Yeah, I just checked mine again and see a lot of things I wish I could claim as fraudulent charges but no such luck.

In my case I used Amex through my PP account which seems to be pretty bullet-proof.

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That's gonna hurt. :sl

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These are some awesome lighters though. I like them better than the jet lites

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Scary!!!:D

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Well I was Schnooped .... they charged quite a lot from my AMEX card and I didnt get a call from AMEX about it so people should check their statements.

Charges on mine were from VIA World Bangaladore and were multiple charges. Like most fraudsters they did a test transaction on the 19th and then went for the full boat load on the 21st.

Called the CC and they are taking the charges off and sending me a new one.

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My new VISA cards arrived via UPS overnight envelope today.
And a few details of the scams. A lowlife named William charged $516 to my card at a garden shop in New York. The only place in NY that had my CC numbers was Shnoop.
Then some idiot tried to buy airplane tickets in Saudi Arabia. And photography equipment online. Those transactions did not get processed.
VISA has been terrific through this hassle. Did not cost me a penny. Good service -- and this old Bart learned a lesson.

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Bart...glad to hear everything worked out brother!! :tu :tu Only hope everyone else effected by this scam comes out on top as well.

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I was also Schnooped!!!:bh

Several fraudulent charges to my VISA, the largest being $3000!:mad:

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This Schnoop site is down for maintenance now by the way.

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They probably had to regroup after my wife chewed a few a$$es!!!:tu

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I'm suprised AmEx Security isn't down for maintenance. ;)

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So this was just an AmEX issue? I used a Visa had no problem that I know of. Had an issue recently unrelated and my cards fraud protection monitoring kicked in less than an hour from when the started making transactions. Whole thing resolved in less than a week. Good luck to those who had problems.

My lighters seem fine. I haven't tried them all but the ones I have tried were nice single torch lighters.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Nope, all type were hit if they did not use ******...

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Got nailed for 400 from carribean airlines 3d ny. Used a visa btw

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Funny thing I saw an email from Schnoop last night and they had the Ronson deal up there again.

In fact if you go to the site right now the deal in is the lower right.

http://www.pennywise.biz/

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

I am going to try an order, but use pa**al.

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Still no fraud charges on my end.

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You ought to be fine then since PP doesn't work the same as a CC. No numbers are sent to a processor, it all stays on PP.

In your Pennywise account "Orders" screen will read "Status: Processing" for, well, forever... but after a few days, you can click on the actual item description on the order screen page and you'll get a detail screen that has the order info and the UPS tracking number and status at the bottom of it. My Thursday order shipped out the next Monday.

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That's what I thought, too until receiving an invoice in the mail today from Apple with a different person's name and my address (in WI) and a ship to in Grand Canyon, AZ. No charges had yet to appear on my on-line tracking (as they were still pending), but the invoice was for $700. After an hour on the phone with Apple and another 20 minutes on the phone with Discover, the card has been canceled and is being replaced.

Stay diligent. It may not happen today or next week, but the odds are pretty good something will be attempted.

Got a name and addy if anyone's in the neighborhood with some neutering equipment. ;)

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Just found out my Amex got hit...over a week ago. Yuck. Now I gotta figure out 1) whether my flight to NYC tomorrow will actually go and 2) if that flight makes, whether I can have a card sent to the hotel so I can use it to pay :bh

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Amex is real good about overnighting a new card, question is weather you call them in enough time to meet the UPS cut-off

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

Here is what really sucks and am trying to figure out.
They had my pertinent information to provide the bank for verification.
They knew my social and my date of birth.
That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.

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Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me.

These folks got my social and date of birth.
The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges.
They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth.

As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor.
SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit.
That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists.

I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit:
800-680-7289
You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account.

I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Sorry about the hit, Carlos, but thanks for the heads up on the credit monitoring.

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Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

...and I believe they intend to hit the entire list.

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Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

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Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.

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Now I will probably be scolded for this but...

Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop

Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**

Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

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No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.

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What I believe now, and have always believed, is this goes much further than a vendor.

Yes, now seeing that so many have been hit, and I too have, I no longer think it is a coincidence.
That in no way changes how I felt at the time this idea was originally posted and thereby don't feel any "in your face" feeling or "told you so" or whatever.
Simply, I too have now fallen victim.

While a victim, I don't see the sky falling or the end of the world though.
This is common.
This occurs every minute of the day.
I am well protected and all it took was a bit of time out of my day on the phone answering the bank's questions.

My point to post is to show I too was hit so therefore, as I said already, I now concur this is no coincidence as now there is sufficient evidence to impact ME.
My point is also there seems to be more than just charges. There is an issue here of identity theft, which goes much further beyond what was being discussed here until today.

Lastly, as Mark posts, our opposition to you was the statement that Schnoops did it. I don't believe that for a second but do believe there was a compromise of the system that accessed personal information that Schnoops NEVER got from me to perform the transaction.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Not at all.

I don't disagree that it had to do with my transaction at Schoops.

Your post on here made me watch for charges daily.
The charges to my account took place today.
I think that is pretty fast to catch it.
Furthermore, let's be clear, even if you were Paul Revere, the British were coming. All you could do at that point is know they were coming. They still could not be stopped from coming.
These charges were going to take place whether you whistled Dixie or not.
However, I still do appreciate the advance warning. Just don't agree with you as to who is at fault.
My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

12 Ronson lighters... $17

Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000

This thread... Priceless!!!:D

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:bx

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In all seriousness though, glad you caughtit and it was taken care of....

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PS: Arganese cigars are poo-poo. So take that!

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Again, thanks for bringing light to it.

I would ask you let other you know elsewhere to be vigilant of possible credit cards being issued under their names, without their knowledge.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours

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My original post:

nuff said