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DennisP 11-24-2010 10:21 AM

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Don't get me wrong, it's still good and one of the few shows I go out of my way to watch the night it airs (especially as late as it airs). But, before this season it was slightly ahead of Breaking Bad; Breaking Bad is now way ahead.

It went from very entertaining and well written should have received and Emmy nomination to just entertaining.

icehog3 11-24-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1072341)
Don't get me wrong, it's still good and one of the few shows I go out of my way to watch the night it airs (especially as late as it airs). But, before this season it was slightly ahead of Breaking Bad; Breaking Bad is now way ahead.

It went from very entertaining and well written should have received and Emmy nomination to just entertaining.

We are pretty close to the same page then, Dennis. :tu

GKitty 11-30-2010 02:26 PM

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Season Finale tonight... Makes me a sad kitty.

Bill86 11-30-2010 02:37 PM

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Yeah I hope it's good, this season has been MEH.

DennisP 11-30-2010 05:42 PM

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I've heard the finale is very good, even by critics that have criticized this season.

Darrell 11-30-2010 06:24 PM

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I can't wait for it to come on. Ohmanohmanohmanohmanohmanohman.

elderboy02 11-30-2010 09:36 PM

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Wow, what an ending! :banger I will wait until tomorrow to talk about it in case those of you who haven't seen it yet wont get the spoilers.

JDTexan 11-30-2010 09:52 PM

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I agree, great way to end the season!

SmokeyJoe 11-30-2010 10:33 PM

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I thought the ending was very satisfying... and sets plenty in motion for Season 4! :ss

SouthernSmoke 11-30-2010 11:03 PM

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Great way to cap off the season. I don't think anyone saw it coming, either. Now for next September to roll around....

Bill86 12-01-2010 12:13 AM

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Now THAT was an ending! FINALLY!

rennD 12-01-2010 12:36 AM

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Great ending! Way better than last season. It's was the ending for two seasons.

icehog3 12-01-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1078858)
Wow, what an ending! :banger I will wait until tomorrow to talk about it in case those of you who haven't seen it yet wont get the spoilers.

I am guessing everyone has seen it by now. I can't believe they killed off Clay. Well, I guess Jax is in charge next season.

Bill86 12-01-2010 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1078969)
I am guessing everyone has seen it by now. I can't believe they killed off Clay. Well, I guess Jax is in charge next season.

:hy :hy :hy :hy :hy

trader1974 12-01-2010 09:13 AM

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Wrapped up alot of loose ends with that finish! Very nice!

DennisP 12-01-2010 09:24 AM

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Great finish, made up for what I thought was a mediocre season (by SoA standards). Like rennD said, good wrap up, I was worried we didn't get that.

Very glad to see Stahl dead, character was great, but they took her too far and used her too often just for plot.

I assume that Opie and Chibs would still serve the time for the gun charges like everyone else, just get arrested later? It's not like they'll just forget their names were on the original arrests.

SmokeyJoe 12-01-2010 10:25 AM

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Remember... Opie never got arrested for the original gun charge. He had left before the Police arrived... he was following Zobel.

And it may be that Chibs was not there either... wasn't he still in the hospital? :ss

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079312)
Great finish, made up for what I thought was a mediocre season (by SoA standards). Like rennD said, good wrap up, I was worried we didn't get that.

Very glad to see Stahl dead, character was great, but they took her too far and used her too often just for plot.

I assume that Opie and Chibs would still serve the time for the gun charges like everyone else, just get arrested later? It's not like they'll just forget their names were on the original arrests.


J0eybb 12-01-2010 10:31 AM

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Should have dumped the mag into her skull.

Gophernut 12-01-2010 10:32 AM

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I am kinda torn about Stahl. She is just the type of bat $hit crazy character that makes you love to hate her.

I kept thinking that the club had something up their sleeve, but didn't think the story would play out that way, without Jemma knowing about it.

GKitty 12-01-2010 10:41 AM

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This season has been an excercise in going with the script for me. There were a few points where I would have written it differently, but Kurt Sutter I am not... and Thank, God!! :) I feel like having seen the finale, I can go back through the season with new eyes. Some of the things that left me scratching my head, might now make perfect sense. I can't wait to have an SOA marathon with my DVR.

Ok, one last time, for old time's sake... F*#@ Stahl!! I've hated her since day 1 and to see her finally dealt with makes me all warm and fuzzy. I'm glad Opie got to the be the one to pull the trigger. I feel like there was closure in that for him and it clears the way for an Opie-Layla story. Maybe, she'll make better friends.

Season 3 felt like a chess game to me. Opening moves pretty standard and unexciting. Middle game of jockeying for position and setting traps. And then.... Snap! Boom! Crash!!... wtf was that?!! Checkmate?! YES!!! I know a lot of people hated the whole baby-chasing storyline, but it introduced us to a lot of new faces, dug up some old history, and prepared the way for next season. There's a whole new array of characters to play with.

YMMV, but I think this season was absolutely brilliant. It takes a great writer to set up a picture that big and make all the pieces fit together right. Where last season's finale left me pissed off and anxious to know what happened next, this season's left me satisfied and looking forward to the next chapter. I can't wait to see what Sutter has in store up ahead. I heart Charlie Hunnam as an actor (not just because he's hot) and I wanna be Gemma when I grow up.

How many days until September? :)

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1079393)
Remember... Opie never got arrested for the original gun charge. He had left before the Police arrived... he was following Zobel.

And it may be that Chibs was not there either... wasn't he still in the hospital? :ss

I'm pretty certain Chibs wasn't there.

DennisP 12-01-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1079393)
Remember... Opie never got arrested for the original gun charge. He had left before the Police arrived... he was following Zobel.

And it may be that Chibs was not there either... wasn't he still in the hospital? :ss

You're right, totally forgot.

Can they vote on membership with only the few not in jail?

J0eybb 12-01-2010 10:45 AM

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They opened a whole new story line with the Russians.


ETA: Just saw this: S4 teaser. jax gets out of jail, realizes the russians took his wallet, we go to moscow for 7 eps to find it, he falls in love with borscht.

GKitty 12-01-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079420)
You're right, totally forgot.

Can they vote on membership with only the few not in jail?

They can. Remember Kozik and Tig had a conversation about that on the "playground".

DennisP 12-01-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 1079425)
They can. Remember Kozik and Tig had a conversation about that on the "playground".

I remember the conversation about Tig not being able to vote because he can't ride (license suspended), but not on them going to jail.

Wondering if we'll see more Kozik.

GKitty 12-01-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079430)
I remember the conversation about Tig not being able to vote because he can't ride (license suspended), but not on them going to jail.

Wondering if we'll see more Kozik.

No, Tig can vote, which is why Kozik isn't in now. He blocked him the two times they tried to vote him in. I wonder if we'll ever get the rest of the story about Tig's girl Missy.

DennisP 12-01-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 1079442)
No, Tig can vote, which is why Kozik isn't in now. He blocked him the two times they tried to vote him in. I wonder if we'll ever get the rest of the story about Tig's girl Missy.

I know he could, but he's also riding. They kind of dropped the whole his license is suspended thing after Kozik mentioned it.

icehog3 12-01-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 1079442)
No, Tig can vote, which is why Kozik isn't in now. He blocked him the two times they tried to vote him in. I wonder if we'll ever get the rest of the story about Tig's girl Missy.

She was his dog, don't you remember the picture he pulled out of his wallet on the porch swing, Crystal? :)

Chainsaw13 12-01-2010 11:04 AM

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The one thing I don't get in the episode last night, maybe it was tipping their hand a bit. During the chase scene with the club/Russians, the Feds pull out and block the road. The club stops, guy driving the van gets on the bike with Tig(?) and they ride through the road block, as the Feds waive them through. Made me scratch my head at first, but then made sense at the end. Anyone else think that?

rennD 12-01-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1079459)
The one thing I don't get in the episode last night, maybe it was tipping their hand a bit. During the chase scene with the club/Russians, the Feds pull out and block the road. The club stops, guy driving the van gets on the bike with Tig(?) and they ride through the road block, as the Feds waive them through. Made me scratch my head at first, but then made sense at the end. Anyone else think that?

Yea that is right. If the club didnt know about the deal, how'd they know to drive through as quickly as they did? Great point Chainsaw.

DennisP 12-01-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1079459)
The one thing I don't get in the episode last night, maybe it was tipping their hand a bit. During the chase scene with the club/Russians, the Feds pull out and block the road. The club stops, guy driving the van gets on the bike with Tig(?) and they ride through the road block, as the Feds waive them through. Made me scratch my head at first, but then made sense at the end. Anyone else think that?

I didn't get that. Jax told Stahl to do it this way so the club doesn't think he ratted, that it looks like they're going after the Russians. But, would they really leave a van with Jimmy O. that easily and just take off if that was the case? Does Stahl not see how planned it was for Juice to jump out of the van and on a bike and take off?

Also, there was a huge box of guns in that van, what happened to that, or does the ATF just ignore it for them here?

Chainsaw13 12-01-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079477)
Also, there was a huge box of guns in that van, what happened to that, or does the ATF just ignore it for them here?

yea, forgot about that also, cause they made a point during the exchange with the Russians to show Bobby look at the bag of guns.

DennisP 12-01-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rennD (Post 1079473)
Yea that is right. If the club didnt know about the deal, how'd they know to drive through as quickly as they did? Great point Chainsaw.

Yeah, they knew. I actually think they knew before they went to Belfast, but that is up for interpretation. I'd like to rewatch the season with that in mind and see if anything leads me to believe they know or don't.

One big tipping point for me was how Jax was always meeting with Stahl alone. He just shows up to get $250k by himself? Jax never travels on club business alone. Then he just shows up after they kidnap Jimmy O. to meet with Stahl. Those had me thinking something was up before it happened.

Chainsaw13 12-01-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079480)
One big tipping point for me was how Jax was always meeting with Stahl alone. He just shows up to get $250k by himself? Jax never travels on club business alone. Then he just shows up after they kidnap Jimmy O. to meet with Stahl. Those had me thinking something was up before it happened.

Same for when Unser shows up as they're leaving to get Jimmy O. Clay thanks him for all he's done for the club, implying the $250k. You'd have thought Jax would've interveined to deflect at that point, since he told Stahl he would say he got it from Unser.

Either way, it sets up for a good 4th season. You can see the groundwork is laid for a Gemma/Kara battle.

J0eybb 12-01-2010 12:00 PM

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They clearly knew what was up at that point.

elderboy02 12-01-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1079495)
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Either way, it sets up for a good 4th season. You can see the groundwork is laid for a Gemma/Kara battle.

Who is Kara? You talking about Jax's old lady Tara?

rennD 12-01-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079480)
Yeah, they knew. I actually think they knew before they went to Belfast, but that is up for interpretation..

I know that they were aware of the deal. What I was expanding on was what Chainsaw said. So if they were playing along that they didn't know about the deal, why'd they pass the roadblock so quickly? I think this was one of the major flaws on how they shot that scene.

Chainsaw13 12-01-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1079517)
Who is Kara? You talking about Jax's old lady Tara?

Doh!. Yes, Tara. I was rereading it after I posted and didn't think it was right.

DennisP 12-01-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rennD (Post 1079518)
I know that they were aware of the deal. What I was expanding on was what Chainsaw said. So if they were playing along that they didn't know about the deal, why'd they pass the roadblock so quickly? I think this was one of the major flaws on how they shot that scene.

I agree, although they did wait for Stahl to wave them by. If they don't know what's going on and see the ATF waive them through, they probably go with it. But, definitely some holes there.

rennD 12-01-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DennisP (Post 1079531)
I agree, although they did wait for Stahl to wave them by. If they don't know what's going on and see the ATF waive them through, they probably go with it. But, definitely some holes there.

Yup. Even if they give a short pause in their actions, that wouldve been fine. Instead the guy driving the van just jumped out and jumped on the back of the bike so quickly.

icehog3 12-01-2010 02:31 PM

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It's fiction...and entertainment. Take it for what it's worth, over-analyzing takes away from the enjoyment for me, anyway.

SmokeyJoe 12-01-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1079671)
It's fiction...and entertainment. Take it for what it's worth, over-analyzing takes away from the enjoyment for me, anyway.

Exactly!

Besides... I'm still stunned by Clay's death and the fact that dead prospect Kip and Tara have a test-tube love child. Looks like Cherry will be the new President of SAMBEL, too.
;) :r

GKitty 12-01-2010 02:49 PM

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:l

Thank you.

That is all.

icehog3 12-01-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1079700)
Exactly!

Besides... I'm still stunned by Clay's death and the fact that dead prospect Kip and Tara have a test-tube love child. Looks like Cherry will be the new President of SAMBEL, too.
;) :r

Love Bobby's new crew cut, though. :tu

SmokeyJoe 12-01-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1079709)
Love Bobby's new crew cut, though. :tu

Not to mention his matching bikini wax... might even get back in the good graces of his ex-old lady - "Precious." :D

icehog3 12-01-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1079716)
Not to mention his matching bikini wax... might even get back in the good graces of his ex-old lady - "Precious." :D

Precious....nummy! :r

I can't believe Tig and Chibs are forming a civil union.

Gophernut 12-01-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1079716)
Not to mention his matching bikini wax... might even get back in the good graces of his ex-old lady - "Precious." :D

Opie's perm looks very stylish though.

Volusianator 12-01-2010 03:25 PM

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[quote=Chainsaw13;1079495]Same for when Unser shows up as they're leaving to get Jimmy O. Clay thanks him for all he's done for the club, implying the $250k. You'd have thought Jax would've interveined to deflect at that point, since he told Stahl he would say he got it from Unser.

QUOTE]

Admittingly I got nervous at that point, but when nothing came of it, my suspicions started to grow.

I would like to know what happened to the bag of guns however.

J0eybb 12-01-2010 03:31 PM

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The guns were probably transferred to the car from the van along with the body.

rennD 12-01-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1079671)
It's fiction...and entertainment. Take it for what it's worth, over-analyzing takes away from the enjoyment for me, anyway.

I agree, ofcourse, that it is fiction. But entertainment for me has a lot to do with the plot. All I am saying is that scene with the roadblock had a hole in it. Luckily that scene didnt fuss too much with the rest of the show. :tu

Bill86 12-01-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1079671)
It's fiction...and entertainment. Take it for what it's worth, over-analyzing takes away from the enjoyment for me, anyway.

This. That was probably the best conceivable ending. I've been criticizing this season heavily but in the end I'm definitely satisfied.


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