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Salvelinus 04-04-2010 06:18 PM

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Why on earth do I have to watch this on ESPN 3 via computer instead of ESPN 2 on my TV in Vermont?

Bruins Fan 04-04-2010 06:19 PM

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Pedro Martinez was a shocker, but he was the greatest all time Sox pitcher, and a Yankee killer :D

Bruins Fan 04-04-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvelinus (Post 817106)
Why on earth do I have to watch this on ESPN 3 via computer instead of ESPN 2 on my TV in Vermont?

We are spared the misery of watching Joe Morgen, it's on NESN down in the flatlands :D

MichaelJ 04-04-2010 06:31 PM

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Pedro Martinez was a shocker, but he was the greatest all time Sox pitcher, and a Yankee killer :D

I would agree with that! BTW - NESN here in NH too!!

Bruins Fan 04-04-2010 06:36 PM

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Get the hook, Beckett is not going to get the extension pitching like that :td

Bruins Fan 04-05-2010 04:08 AM

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The pitching and run prevention went out the window :r

massphatness 04-05-2010 06:18 AM

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Sox on a pace to go 162-0

:D

PeteSB75 04-05-2010 11:44 AM

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Beckett signed a 4 year deal for 68mil.

KenyanSandBoa 04-05-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 817990)
Beckett signed a 4 year deal for 68mil.

Just read that...it must have been the back-to-back homers that sealed the deal. ;)

Bruins Fan 04-07-2010 09:00 PM

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The Sox let another one slip away, Ortiz looked like crap again, yes he drove in the lone run with a base hit but stranded four. :td
Lackey pitched great to bad he did not get any run support.

MedicCook 04-07-2010 09:06 PM

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Great series between the Yankees and Red Sox. All three games were close and could have gone either way. Hopefully we will be treated to 15 more close and entertaining games this season.

Subvet642 04-08-2010 06:45 AM

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Time to deal Pap while we can still get something for him.

PeteSB75 04-08-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 821325)
Time to deal Pap while we can still get something for him.

You really think we can get something for him? His contract is up at the end of this season. I say sit him and let Lowell DH, since we're paying for him anyway. Was a good series but we've got to win the ones at home.

Bruins Fan 04-08-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 821325)
Time to deal Pap while we can still get something for him.

I agree he has turned into a one trick pony just throwing fastballs.
Hitters just key on the fastball, lets face it if you can't hit a fastball you don't belong in the Bigs.
The guy got a bad attitude he just cares about getting paid.
Last year he was questioned about his shoulder because his fastball was down, he said he was holding back, that's bull bring it all or go home.
Move him and Ortiz and I would be a happy camper.

Bruins Fan 04-08-2010 07:33 AM

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You really think we can get something for him? His contract is up at the end of this season. I say sit him and let Lowell DH, since we're paying for him anyway. Was a good series but we've got to win the ones at home.

I'm pretty sure he is under contract another year? Oh I thought you meant Pap, yes Ortiz is up after this season.

Mugen910 04-08-2010 07:44 AM

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I thought this was funny.

Subvet642 04-08-2010 08:11 AM

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I'm pretty sure he is under contract another year? Oh I thought you meant Pap, yes Ortiz is up after this season.

Yeah, I mean Papelbon. I'd give Papi a little time; most of his problems last year seem to have been with his mechanics as a result of his injuries. If he has that figured out, he might be OK. Papelbon, on the other hand, is just throwing meatballs and at this point, I'd trade him for a ham sandwich. He scared the crap out of me last year; I don't know how he managed to put up the numbers he did. Bard should close.

PeteSB75 04-08-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 821490)
Yeah, I mean Papelbon. I'd give Papi a little time; most of his problems last year seem to have been with his mechanics as a result of his injuries. If he has that figured out, he might be OK. Papelbon, on the other hand, is just throwing meatballs and at this point, I'd trade him for a ham sandwich. He scared the crap out of me last year; I don't know how he managed to put up the numbers he did. Bard should close.

Ah, gotcha. I don't know if I'd get rid of Papelbon yet. He's only on a 1 year deal anyway, and I don't know that Bard is ready to be the closer, though he's looked damn good the last few times I've seen him. Really impressive with speed and control. But if Papelbon blows many more like last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see him demoted to the bullpen and Bard picking up closing duties. Couple more good prospects coming up, Casey Kelly and Tazawa(Tommy John surgery) both have potential.

Subvet642 04-08-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 821533)
Ah, gotcha. I don't know if I'd get rid of Papelbon yet. He's only on a 1 year deal anyway, and I don't know that Bard is ready to be the closer, though he's looked damn good the last few times I've seen him. Really impressive with speed and control. But if Papelbon blows many more like last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see him demoted to the bullpen and Bard picking up closing duties. Couple more good prospects coming up, Casey Kelly and Tazawa(Tommy John surgery) both have potential.

The number of saves that he had last season have nothing to do with his ability, it was all luck and defense. He gave up way too many walks and hits.

tupacboy 04-13-2010 05:44 PM

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red sox nation west!

bard might make papelbon expendable... papelbon reminds me of k-rod... doesn't start pitching till he has a couple of runners on... ended up costing us last year

tupacboy 04-13-2010 05:45 PM

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forgot to ask.. does anyone here go to sonny's on the westside near ucla? i used to go there all the time when i went to ucla... now i go maybe 3-4 times a year...

Bruins Fan 04-13-2010 07:17 PM

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forgot to ask.. does anyone here go to sonny's on the westside near ucla? i used to go there all the time when i went to ucla... now i go maybe 3-4 times a year...

Never been, but I would make it a point to stop in if I ever get back out west :tu

tupacboy 04-13-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 827332)
Never been, but I would make it a point to stop in if I ever get back out west :tu

sonny's a must for any boston fan on the west coast:

http://www.sonnymcleans.com/

Bruins Fan 04-18-2010 03:47 PM

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What a sorry looking team this is, Ortiz cant even hit a pop up to win a game Drew not hitting his weight.
Heads must roll. If Francona don't want to hurt the players feelings, it's time for him to go?
This team is painful to watch :td

TripleF 04-18-2010 03:49 PM

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Can I inject something here? I'm glad to live in Tampa Bay right now......sall I'm sayin.

Bruins Fan 04-18-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 831885)
Can I inject something here? I'm glad to live in Tampa Bay right now......sall I'm sayin.

:tg :D

TripleF 04-18-2010 03:58 PM

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:D

The Poet 04-19-2010 02:21 PM

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And the best part about living in Tampa is that, once the Rays stumble, the fans can always dig out their Yankee caps again. :r

dunng 04-19-2010 07:49 PM

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I was there and it sucked... how can you lose on Marathon Monday!?!?

TripleF 04-19-2010 07:50 PM

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And the best part about living in Tampa is that, once the Rays stumble, the fans can always dig out their Yankee caps again. :r

Very true.....but I got a funny feeling about this year......I just do.

KenyanSandBoa 04-19-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dunng (Post 832911)
I was there and it sucked... how can you lose on Marathon Monday!?!?

No kidding...that was painful to watch. :td

dunng 04-19-2010 08:01 PM

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I at least had decent seats, but it was very cold in the stands... :c

VTDragon 04-20-2010 10:38 AM

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Time for some serious shaking up. Bench Big Papi & play Mikey Lowell, bring up Dice-K and let him pitch, Wake can go to the pen, bring up Reddick for Drew - he can sit for a while, put Cameron in left and let Elsbury play center once he is healthy again.
Most of all DO SOMETHING ! Make the whole team realize that they don't get to play if they don't perform. Tito's patience with struggling players is well documented, but if he is much more patient the AL East leaders will be out of reach.

VTDragon 04-21-2010 09:26 AM

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Hooray we won one! Nice debut for Darnell McDonald, great to see Mikey Lowell as the DH and good to see Reddick again.

One in a row:)!

jmsremax 04-21-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 834385)
Hooray we won one! Nice debut for Darnell McDonald, great to see Mikey Lowell as the DH and good to see Reddick again.

One in a row:)!


:=:

PeteSB75 04-21-2010 08:23 PM

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Hoping tonight's game doesn't go as long as the Mets on Sunday... what was that, 20 innings? 11 is good as long as the Sox win. :tu

ScottieM 04-22-2010 10:31 PM

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Damn that Sox lineup looks rough! If they're gonna turn it around they better do it soon. You don't want to try and make up 10 games against a 2 headed monster like NY and Tampa.

Bruins Fan 04-23-2010 02:36 AM

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Not much to get excited about so far. The Sox are on my back burner with the way the Bruins have been playing in the playoffs :tu

PeteSB75 04-27-2010 02:52 PM

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Beckett working hard to finish the season with an ERA over 10? So glad we signed that long term deal and paid him all that money...

Bruins Fan 04-27-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 841962)
Beckett working hard to finish the season with an ERA over 10? So glad we signed that long term deal and paid him all that money...

No wonder he jumped on the new contract extension?
Now on the other hand he has the same ERA as he did last year at this time,and finished with 17 wins.:rolleyes:

VTDragon 04-28-2010 09:00 AM

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We all hope the Beckett can duplicate his resurgence from last year - time will tell.

On another subject: I'm having a hard time with this whole saga of sending Wake to the pen to make room for Dice-K. I know they paid him a boatload of money and need to try to get value from him but ... you know he's Dice-K...just painful to watch AND he has never really produced to the hype that surrounded him. I know - 18 wins his first year, but if you remember he had tons of run support and was bailed out by a superior bullpen lots and lots of times. Wakefield , on the other hand, has been a good soldier and consistantly produced over the years. Yes, he has the occasional clunker, but with one game to win and a choice between those two, I put Wakefield out there every time.

Is there a better answer - probably not - that doesn't mean I have to like this though.

PeteSB75 04-28-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon (Post 842863)
We all hope the Beckett can duplicate his resurgence from last year - time will tell.

On another subject: I'm having a hard time with this whole saga of sending Wake to the pen to make room for Dice-K. I know they paid him a boatload of money and need to try to get value from him but ... you know he's Dice-K...just painful to watch AND he has never really produced to the hype that surrounded him. I know - 18 wins his first year, but if you remember he had tons of run support and was bailed out by a superior bullpen lots and lots of times. Wakefield , on the other hand, has been a good soldier and consistantly produced over the years. Yes, he has the occasional clunker, but with one game to win and a choice between those two, I put Wakefield out there every time.

Is there a better answer - probably not - that doesn't mean I have to like this though.

Wake has been getting hit like crazy when he's pitched this season. Bucholz is doing incredibly well, especially the last few games. Wake is also old enough they don't want to stress his body too much by making him pitch a full season, then into the playoffs. I say let Matsuzaka pitch and keep Wake in reserve for the inevitable injuries that happen to every team, every year.

mosesbotbol 04-28-2010 10:33 AM

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I'd go with Dice-K early on and see how he's doing. Wake is good in the right situation, but when he is off, forget it... In the big picture, the addition of Dice-K has lead to World Series wins. Whether that was direct or not is a debate.

I would not second guess any decision Theo and Larry make.

I feel like I don't know the Sox right now. So many new faces. It'll be June before I have handle of who is who.

Bruins Fan 04-28-2010 03:06 PM

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I don't know but the move of Wake might be good ? He is always hurt the second part of the season this might save him?
It could be like in case of fire break glass:D

VTDragon 04-29-2010 07:10 AM

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Nice win by Lester last night for a sweep of the Jays. Two good pitching performances on consecutive nights - this is what we all envisioned this past winter. Now on to Baltimore for some fun before the Yankees and Angels come to town. By the way - nice to see Papelbon get his save without any drama.

Hope we get Elsbury back soon, I miss the excitement he brings to the game ... though McDonald has realy swung the bat well - he has earned the right to stick around for a while.

Upon reflection - you guys are right about Wakefield - he is the right guy to go to the pen - for now. I was just being sentimental about the old guy getting dissed.

I hope that this little stint in the minors has made an impact on Dice-K with regards to listening to his coaches & trainers. Time will tell. Hey, maybe he has pickeced up the pace of his pitching too. Well-we can hope.

PeteSB75 04-29-2010 11:19 AM

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McDonald has been playing center, hasn't he? Think they will keep him up once Cameron is back? Can we hope?

VTDragon 04-29-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 844422)
McDonald has been playing center, hasn't he? Think they will keep him up once Cameron is back? Can we hope?

I would at least keep him as a reserve - he's earned that.

Bruins Fan 05-02-2010 05:16 PM

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Swept by the worst team in baseball:td Things are going to get ugly as soon as the Bruins and Celtics are out of the playoffs.

gettysburgfreak 05-02-2010 05:50 PM

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Tough year so far, really not a good sign coming out of the gate this slowly. Pitching is horrible especially the bullpen. Hitting is pretty bad as well. Tito needs to make a few moves or else this season will turn into a wash by June.

Subvet642 05-03-2010 07:06 AM

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Damn it, damn it, damn it all to hell!!! :bh


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