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I was involved in a group buy with Dan and while he took a while to get me my part he did deliver. I'm sorry for those that got taken by him. I absolutely hate when people take advantage of others. It only shows that those who prey on others are scum and do not deserve any happiness in life. It truely makes me sick to hear about this. Andrew (DPD) shared some information in this thread about Dan reselling sale cigars at a higher price. Had I known about that I would have never gotten in on the group buy.

The point has been made numerous times here that we may not know each other face to face, but I treat everyone here as family. Unfortunately 1 person decided they were going to take advantage of our family. While he was successful don't think that he won't get his in the end. I credit Dan with teaching me about cc's as I had limited knowledge when I met him. As of now I thank him for that but I will never be able to respect him or give him any of my time.

Being a good Christian I do believe he has the oppurtunity to right all the wrongs that he has done. I hope he does repay everyone. Only then would I be able to begin to forgive him for he harm be has done to many.

Any bets on whether he shows up at Shack?? Can we say bloodbath?

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I would be shocked if he did. I don't think it would be a good idea. :2

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That's allright man..... I heard Nugent's Bodyguard will be there. :D

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Well he has shown he doesn't make sound decisions...

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He wouldn't have the b***s, but if he did :mad::mad:

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Gotcha, thanks Vic. Good to see you around some. :tu

Thanks Peter!

Clear as a bell! (why is it a bell anyway?)

:banger:banger :D

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I was just over at another board that Dan is a member of. Hes got some nasty messages on his profile page already, no trader feedback though.

I understand the MODs policy of no other board feedback and actually have examples to illustrate both sides.

A friend of mine on another board ran a GB for some very expensive, rare cigars that turned out to be fake, the vendor scammed them. Now, he got a bad rep on the other board even though it was not his fault, and that he is making everybody involved whole again. We are talking thousands of $$ here. I would hate for his rep to follow him to a board like CA because as I said, he is making good on the bad situation out of his own pocket. This would be a good argument for not allowing other board feedback.

On the other hand, I have another friend that was involved in a trade on our old home, and after months and months of not receiving his end, asked for his portion back (again THOUSANDS of $$ worth of cigars). The cigars ended up being lost in transit or destroyed or whatever, my friend never got his cigars back. This time however the offending individual didnt make good on the situation, saying that he was financially unable. He then proceeds to take an extravagant vacation and boasts about it. (He is still a member here, and probably reading this.) Now, even though this happened on another board, I would never get involved with a trade with this person, nor would I want another to get burned the way my friend got burned. I think this would be a perfect argument for allowing other board feedback.

My point is, its a catch-22. The MODs have a tough enough time keeping the Massholes in line. :D

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Shark bait Oh haha! I'll be there and be armed. Of course it will be put in the car once I begin to :al Oh and I doubt he'll be there as he said he was going to be at Old Sailor's herf and RHNewfie's herf and never showed up. I think he knows he'll run into some major problems :D

Oh and I did post earlier about Dan but I felt that the members should make up their own decisions about him and not have me influence them in any way. I did frequent chat regularly at some asked about Dan and when they asked I did tell them the dealings I've had with them and let them make up their own minds.

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hummm, no sharks in Erie......tar & feather.....:)

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Lots of snakes though

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Like I have the time to read thru everything to determine that this was a deal involving "unspeakables" ... :rolleyes:

I've been the moderator and owner of boards with over 20,000 people (not cigar related) and have had to deal with this crap before. More often than not the buyer gets some recourse, especially if its across state lines. Atty Generals of States dont look kindly on interstate fraud.

However, since this was across country lines, I dont have a clue how one would proceed with this as I have no experience with it.

I just hate hearing about that kind of money loss, that is, for me anyway, a significant amount of money and I would be steaming pissed.

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:r :r

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Word. :tu

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Nah, we love youse guys! :D

P.S.....sorry for the back to back to back posts...my multi-quote doesn't work on this work computer. :(

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Oh, absolutely....in fact, the gun needs to be in the car if anyone at the herf has been drinking. NO guns at the herf (outside the car), and I will tell you the story as to why in 2 weeks, Andrew. ;)

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Crossboard bad trader feedback is a dicey thing and has far more negatives than positives. But, crossboard notification can be beneficial to the board leadership teams.

FTR Dan has been banned at ICC.

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:tpd: :tpd: :tpd:

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I wish I would have known the stuff before I ordered as I wouldn't have supported the group buy. Your bro told me after the fact some of the stuff that happened. I didn't get harmed by any of this but I wouldn't have supported the group buy if I'd known.

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Point taken. :)

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Can't wait to hear the story Tom. I never have a gun on me while partaking in the adult beverages. I hope it's ok to bring it for the ride over and the ride back. Can I bring my water pistol? :r